bring overwatch back?

[Rags 2 Riches]

wallers are trying to destroy this game again and vac AI fails to ban them? will everyone again go to other fps games with better anti-cheat rules and better matchmaking which requires no vote kick systems with no team damage? will cs2 never learn from its direct competitiors? will cs never rise again to its original glory?

[Thund3r]

I 100% agree with the thing about the anti-cheat, however, I think that the team damage and vote to kick is a key part of Counter Strike and removing it would only make the community mad. I mean at least I would be mad.

[Outsider]

Here we go again...

Cs is literally in best condition, breaks online peak again and again.
Team damage is a core mechanic that add more complexity and skill required.
Kick is a lesser evil against griefers.
Since you need all other players to agree, this is not a thing that easy to abuse. Not to mention punishment if you'll try.
Better matchmaking is extremely subjective thing, and for this or any other shooter it's neraly impossible to get a 100% equal match. This game is decades old, people plays it for generations.

And my favourite part. There's no game with a better anticheat. There's games with a less playerbase, so all the whining is not that huge as here. To make a perfect ac is literally impossible.
As for Valve, they does much more complex work with much more effective results, including sorting all the scum out, so majority of players doesn't even meet actual cheaters.

But you and people like you who love to complain so much, you will never be satisfyed, cause it's much easier for you to cry about cheaters all the time instead of admitting you mistakes and start focus on improvement of your personal performance.

[long face]

Originally posted by t3rr0r:

wallers are trying to destroy this game again and vac AI fails to ban them? will everyone again go to other fps games with better anti-cheat rules and better matchmaking which requires no vote kick systems with no team damage? will cs2 never learn from its direct competitiors? will cs never rise again to its original glory?

Only if they give profits for watching demos.

[swrv]

It's already back you're just not in it

[.Inceneration!]

Originally posted by Outsider:

Here we go again...

Cs is literally in best condition, breaks online peak again and again.
Team damage is a core mechanic that add more complexity and skill required.
Kick is a lesser evil against griefers.
Since you need all other players to agree, this is not a thing that easy to abuse. Not to mention punishment if you'll try.
Better matchmaking is extremely subjective thing, and for this or any other shooter it's neraly impossible to get a 100% equal match. This game is decades old, people plays it for generations.

And my favourite part. There's no game with a better anticheat. There's games with a less playerbase, so all the whining is not that huge as here. To make a perfect ac is literally impossible.
As for Valve, they does much more complex work with much more effective results, including sorting all the scum out, so majority of players doesn't even meet actual cheaters.

But you and people like you who love to complain so much, you will never be satisfyed, cause it's much easier for you to cry about cheaters all the time instead of admitting you mistakes and start focus on improvement of your personal performance.

Breaks Online peak xD Yh for its own game because cheaters keeps making new account.. Are you seriously that dumb to think that the game in its current state is fine? Thats what i would call delusional. People like you are the reason why valve doesnt care. They only read the positive crap that people say to piss of other people in their forum posts, Maybe if you actually played anything outside of Community servers you would figure out what the real world is talking about when talking about cheaters. Cheating is at a high point right now where even in other games like CoD Wz, Delta force, Fortnite and many other bigger titles are suffering because people are leaving their games because the companies doesnt wanna develop their anti cheat software "NOT AI" To a state where it is able to catch cheaters with more accuracy. i can say from 100% knowlegde that 47% of all people in Cs2 has cheats installed on their pc. If you dont believe that you can just make a simple research on google for it. You can see how many accounts was active in Csgo during year 2 and 3 And how many accounts suddenly became active during year 4 and now. With those numbers you divide it by the information that valve has giving during the last 2 ban waves and the answer is 47% During peak hours there is a total of 1.2mill people online. During that last 2 ban waves they banned roughly 500.000 accounts. If that isnt enough to change your mind then nothing is and you will also be in the thoughts of nobody is cheating and everyone is just bad! Eventho the fool is actually you. "And the 500k people wasnt VAC who banned them. It was overwatch" So it wasnt even Valve anti cheat that did its job it was the players who did the job for valve!

[BlackFenix]

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[spac]

is overwatch not in the game already..? what are game bans from

[Le fishe au chocolat]

Originally posted by 󠁳⁧⁧ spaciuwu:

is overwatch not in the game already..? what are game bans from

From Valorant I think

[ZERO-FIVE STARS]

OW has been around for quite a while now. Difference is that now it’s not handed to players who meet the requirements, but to their ‘partners’. They probably partnered with a company that consists of experienced players and they handle OW bans now.

[Kilt]

They won't bring overwatch back. They want to get an AI solution so they don't have to pay for people to actually catch cheaters.

Originally posted by Outsider:

But you and people like you who love to complain so much, you will never be satisfyed, cause it's much easier for you to cry about cheaters all the time instead of admitting you mistakes and start focus on improvement of your personal performance.

Well now you have all the time in the world to start focusing on it.

[Eddard™]

that will be just fine

[󠁳]

Originally posted by .Inceneration!:

They only read the positive crap that people say to piss of other people in their forum posts

Valve doesn't read this forum.
The forum is moderated by outsourced team, not Valve employees.

Originally posted by swrv:

It's already back you're just not in it

Yet it is not for players and hired small team is just not enough to handle this.

Originally posted by Kilt:

They won't bring overwatch back. They want to get an AI solution so they don't have to pay for people to actually catch cheaters.

They literally do that right now, since OW is operated by a hired outsourced team called "trusted partners". Yet seems like the team is too small since cheaters reported about very rare bans in >30k ratings (considered these cheaters used undetectable cheats so they couldn't get caught by an anti-cheat).

[черное яичко]

+rep go

[niexyr]

if VAC AI is based only on players "behaviour" it will never ever find a wallhacker with radar hack, i really hope VALVE understands that

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Originally posted by t3rr0r:

wallers are trying to destroy this game again and vac AI fails to ban them? will everyone again go to other fps games with better anti-cheat rules and better matchmaking which requires no vote kick systems with no team damage? will cs2 never learn from its direct competitiors? will cs never rise again to its original glory?

Overwatch is not needed VAC is doing a good job.

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