CS2 and its disgusting Developers are a disgrace to the CS franchise The support for the game is non existent. The power of money VS a good game that could have been.

[Ãg€ñ†کmïth]

Headline speaks for it self.

[Renos]

ACTUAL game issues in CS2

CS2 is far from a perfect game it has its issues but i think a lot of issues are made up by people.

Actual issues i see with CS2.
1. No ingame community server browser and the steam client one sucks
2, No Scripting support yet.
3. Alt tab crashes the game occasionally (This was also an issue in CSGO and seems to just be an issue with every DX9 and DX11 game on modern windows so this might be a microsoft problem and not a valve one)
4.Large packet sizes cause issues for people with bad internet
5. cheating will always be an issue unless the entire industry bands together.
6. there is a issue in source 2 that causes certain PCs to have erratic 1% lows in fps
7. FSR 1 sucks where is DLSS or FSR3
8, An issue with modern windows causes the game to think its files are corrupt,
9. premier needs way stricter MM settings,
10. lag compensation is borked in high ping difference scenarios,

below are Issues i see a lot but are actually made up for the most part.
1. hitboxes are bad
No they are not there are plenty of console commands that show them you can see for yourself they are fine, if you want an example of bad hitboxes
https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/Hitbox?file=Hitboxes_comparison_old_new.png
There actually idetical to CSGO in cs2 with the expception being every agent has the same hitbox size to fix the issue of certain agents in CSGO having a smaller head hitbox,

2. OMG I KEEP DYING BEHIND WALLS!
well assuming this isnt people not understaing how angles work.
welcome to the internet where latency exists this will happen in every first person shooter until someone figures out quantum physics for the internet.
In fact this happens in csgo as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b19VYXqWknA

you know what happens
player 1 peeks out
server gets sent this
player 2 shoots them in the peek
server gets sent this
player 1 retreats
server counts player 2 shot as a kill
player 1's retreat makes it to the server but server has already accounted for player 2 killing player 1,
player 1 appears to have died behind a wall on their screen but in reality player 2 got the kill on them fair and square.

3. I MISS CLEAR SHOTS THE GAME HAS BAD HITRREG
Innacuracy has been a thing since classic counter strike and people still forget this. No weapon is 100% accurate. Not to mention DEMOS ARE NOT LAG COMPENSATED This has been a thing for decades now and people will still complain about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS6yvDmmVvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctQZzXFPAqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z9JWsQ_kDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpF9P7Bq5BE

4.MY FPS SUCKS I SHOULD GET 300+ FPS ON A TOASTER
alright CSGO was 10 year old game on a engine from 2004 and it didn't look the best, And it was entirely CPU driven your GPU did almost nothing, of course your going to get super high FPS numbers on cheap hardware released a decade later,

If you actually look up budget setups from what csgo first released and benchmarks. stable 200+fps was kinda a luxury,

Now CS2 released in 2024 with trying to at least look like a decent modern game,
of course its going to be more demanding and not get super high FPS numbers, Its actually oddly enough close to what you'll get in valorant with similar setups, and if we compare it with out other modern releases CS2 is already incredibly optimized, to point even at a lower FPS it can still lower end to end latency numbers than CSGO or even valorant,

Give it a few years and just like CSGO im sure bargain hardware will also run the game just fine. and hopefully the fix the 1% low fps bug in the mean time.



5. I cant hit AWP shots in CS2
they changed how inputs are polled in CS2 and prob for the better
https://youtu.be/yT4VfcH384g?si=N6eDCN6KizLDUgpR
TLDR your shoot comes out the moment you click in CSGO it was one 1 tick later you actually fired,


6. OMG ENEMY COMES BACK TO LIFE
have you tried going to the settings and turning off damge prediction which btw was made in direect response to the CS community gas lighting itself and thinking CSGO had no delay in response times from the server.


7. SPRAYING IS BAD
The spray pattern is actually matched to 129 tick csgo
https://escorenews.com/en/csgo/article/50737-cs2-vs-cs-go-weapon-stats-difference-recoil-spray-pattern-accuracy-how-guns-changed-in-cs2
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/16afs1c/cs2_and_csgo_ak_no_spread_spray_side_by_side/

8. RUN N GUN ISNT COUNTER STRIKE
you could also do the same in go....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ2rBitzjFM
not to mention pefect counter strafes still look like run and gun

8 GAME IS MISSING CONTENT
While true lets be honest how much of the stuff thats not in CS2 yet was actually played or even liked by the community,
Everyone loved to hate on dangerzone
TDM kinda died the moment DM was added in GO
Majority of the removed maps were kinda hated unbalnced or just unfun to play on.
In some cases like aztec or dust 1 they got removed from the game years ago,
Tuscan was disliked by most of the community in GO
Flying scouts was played by majority bots
Retakes was straight up worse than the community version of unplayed a lot

[Hamless Hog]

Origineel geplaatst door ÐîGîTå£|Ãg€ñ†کmïth:

Do Froggy And Harmless Hog always come in to argue? Seems that this is another issue that needs addressing. I do not need to explain to them any thing. They do not help improve a bad game they argue with people question people and have this innate ability to not get banned for trolling. I see that we got these guys in here 24/7 and the best anyone can do is Go to their account and Block them.

I havent been arguing with anybody, why are you being so rude?

If you dont want to discuss it thats fine, I would suggest not posting it here in a discussion section though.

[Renos]

Origineel geplaatst door ÐîGîTå£|Ãg€ñ†کmïth:

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

alright ill bite but most of this will likely fly over your head.

1. Steam account security,
Steam uses modern account safe guards that every modern web app uses, Encrypted passwords session keys 2FA etc. A users account cannot be broken into randomly.
The only way an account can get hijacked is via 2 methods that both fall under human manipulation.

1 Account info gets stolen. Usually via phishing websites were a user logs into a fake steam login prompt, typically hidden beneath a fake skin website or a steam user messaging a malicious link, Other methods include shared creditonals with another compromised application, Plenty of time someone has shared a password awith another website that gets broken into then that password is shared with their email and steam account, Its up to the account owner to be wary of this.

2 Session key theft. This is when a malicious program steals the session key from your browser or app, This is usually the result of opening a fake PDF file. Malware installed on your computer. Or recently a malicious website with cleaver coding, Once again its up to the user to be wary of this.

There is a saying in cybersecurity no matter how good you are you cant guard against human stupidity or physical access.

Steam support will only help you recover a stolen account they cant stop you from falling for a scam or getting malware installed,

2. Steam support will never reverse trades/restore items. https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/3B6E-B322-2400-8D24
They used to back in like 2008 but people started abusing it.
what would happen is someone claims there account got stolen or they got scammed but this never actually happened.
steam support would dupe the items or reverse a legitimate trade screwing over someone,
thus leading to a policy change if someone takes over your account and trades away your stuff tough luck be sure to secure your account better.


3. Gambling and CS

First off it has always been against Steam's TOS to use an account for commercial purposes, This includes skin gambling if your caught taking part your account is banned. Valve does go after skin gambling websites. But its a hydra problem you DMCA one site another pops back up within a day, Legal action will only carry you so far when majority of these sites operate in territories were there are no laws against it, Try sending a DMCA to someone in Russia their gonna laugh it off and toss it in the shredder,

Valve themselves make no money from these websites. They don't endorse or advert it either. You want someone to yell at about it scream at faceit and CS content creators taking money to advertise gambling websites, The only way to truly kill it would be to disable player to player trading but that runs the giant risk of effectively killing the game's only source of monetization that keeps it afloat,

Now are case openings considered gambling? Legally no in most parts of the world. morally eh maybe CS is pretty tame compared to most other games that imnplement a lootbox/gacha mechanic, They don't advertise CS either i dont think i saw a single valve made advert for CS since 2012. And IMO if your kid is spending money wildly you have failed as a parent for not watching them, espically for game thats already age restricted IMO valve is prob gonna gut traditional cases all together in a few year,


4. Actual game issues in CS2
look for the post below as it too long for here,

Do not insult me or talk down to me with your statement "most of this will likely fly over your head." You just turned me away with that statement.

rich considering you spent the last few posts insulting me.
not an insult just a fact considering you just ignore anything that does not fit your narrative,

[DeS]

For me, this part of the game is dead. CS has turned into another fps pipeline for the production of pixel crap for money. Well, from the obvious:
The New Subtick system - has shown its unsuitability, but the developers do not want to admit failure and are improving something there ("damage prediction" - well, it even sounds ridiculous, especially for the cs series). But in fact, nothing.
Shooting - try to hit... random rules (spray is a different story...everything is sad here too).
Maps - everything is sad here. All the redesigned maps are a pathetic parody of the maps of the past, with a large pile of detailed garbage, corners that you cling to and altered features of the structure of certain maps that we have learned over the years (an excellent example of this is the updated Train)
Anti-cheat - does it even exist...?

[Starchaser]

Because at this point is an unregulated online casino where kids can participate and get hooked to gambling. Valve is making like 60 MILLION each month or so from gambling. So why would they care about cheaters and playability? Legit players are not their client, you wanting to have a good time playing is irrelevant.

[grog]

Origineel geplaatst door Starchaser:

Because at this point is an unregulated online casino where kids can participate and get hooked to gambling. Valve is making like 60 MILLION each month or so from gambling. So why would they care about cheaters and playability? Legit players are not their client, you wanting to have a good time playing is irrelevant.

No it's not, it's a first person shooter game

[ÐîGîTå£|Ãg€ñ†کmïth]

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

ACTUAL game issues in CS2

CS2 is far from a perfect game it has its issues but i think a lot of issues are made up by people.

Actual issues i see with CS2.
1. No ingame community server browser and the steam client one sucks
2, No Scripting support yet.
3. Alt tab crashes the game occasionally (This was also an issue in CSGO and seems to just be an issue with every DX9 and DX11 game on modern windows so this might be a microsoft problem and not a valve one)
4.Large packet sizes cause issues for people with bad internet
5. cheating will always be an issue unless the entire industry bands together.
6. there is a issue in source 2 that causes certain PCs to have erratic 1% lows in fps
7. FSR 1 sucks where is DLSS or FSR3
8, An issue with modern windows causes the game to think its files are corrupt,
9. premier needs way stricter MM settings,
10. lag compensation is borked in high ping difference scenarios,

below are Issues i see a lot but are actually made up for the most part.
1. hitboxes are bad
No they are not there are plenty of console commands that show them you can see for yourself they are fine, if you want an example of bad hitboxes
https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/Hitbox?file=Hitboxes_comparison_old_new.png
There actually idetical to CSGO in cs2 with the expception being every agent has the same hitbox size to fix the issue of certain agents in CSGO having a smaller head hitbox,

2. OMG I KEEP DYING BEHIND WALLS!
well assuming this isnt people not understaing how angles work.
welcome to the internet where latency exists this will happen in every first person shooter until someone figures out quantum physics for the internet.
In fact this happens in csgo as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b19VYXqWknA

you know what happens
player 1 peeks out
server gets sent this
player 2 shoots them in the peek
server gets sent this
player 1 retreats
server counts player 2 shot as a kill
player 1's retreat makes it to the server but server has already accounted for player 2 killing player 1,
player 1 appears to have died behind a wall on their screen but in reality player 2 got the kill on them fair and square.

3. I MISS CLEAR SHOTS THE GAME HAS BAD HITRREG
Innacuracy has been a thing since classic counter strike and people still forget this. No weapon is 100% accurate. Not to mention DEMOS ARE NOT LAG COMPENSATED This has been a thing for decades now and people will still complain about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS6yvDmmVvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctQZzXFPAqk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z9JWsQ_kDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpF9P7Bq5BE

4.MY FPS SUCKS I SHOULD GET 300+ FPS ON A TOASTER
alright CSGO was 10 year old game on a engine from 2004 and it didn't look the best, And it was entirely CPU driven your GPU did almost nothing, of course your going to get super high FPS numbers on cheap hardware released a decade later,

If you actually look up budget setups from what csgo first released and benchmarks. stable 200+fps was kinda a luxury,

Now CS2 released in 2024 with trying to at least look like a decent modern game,
of course its going to be more demanding and not get super high FPS numbers, Its actually oddly enough close to what you'll get in valorant with similar setups, and if we compare it with out other modern releases CS2 is already incredibly optimized, to point even at a lower FPS it can still lower end to end latency numbers than CSGO or even valorant,

Give it a few years and just like CSGO im sure bargain hardware will also run the game just fine. and hopefully the fix the 1% low fps bug in the mean time.



5. I cant hit AWP shots in CS2
they changed how inputs are polled in CS2 and prob for the better
https://youtu.be/yT4VfcH384g?si=N6eDCN6KizLDUgpR
TLDR your shoot comes out the moment you click in CSGO it was one 1 tick later you actually fired,


6. OMG ENEMY COMES BACK TO LIFE
have you tried going to the settings and turning off damge prediction which btw was made in direect response to the CS community gas lighting itself and thinking CSGO had no delay in response times from the server.


7. SPRAYING IS BAD
The spray pattern is actually matched to 129 tick csgo
https://escorenews.com/en/csgo/article/50737-cs2-vs-cs-go-weapon-stats-difference-recoil-spray-pattern-accuracy-how-guns-changed-in-cs2
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/16afs1c/cs2_and_csgo_ak_no_spread_spray_side_by_side/

8. RUN N GUN ISNT COUNTER STRIKE
you could also do the same in go....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ2rBitzjFM
not to mention pefect counter strafes still look like run and gun

8 GAME IS MISSING CONTENT
While true lets be honest how much of the stuff thats not in CS2 yet was actually played or even liked by the community,
Everyone loved to hate on dangerzone
TDM kinda died the moment DM was added in GO
Majority of the removed maps were kinda hated unbalnced or just unfun to play on.
In some cases like aztec or dust 1 they got removed from the game years ago,
Tuscan was disliked by most of the community in GO
Flying scouts was played by majority bots
Retakes was straight up worse than the community version of unplayed a lot

CS2 released in 2023 not 2024. Now what you stated with the lag issue is where I am here It is my main issue. The other issue is this Game does have problems being optimized for current computer setups and the dropped support for mac did not help. also a note that spray paterns need to be controlled by client tick not by server tick/ IE ddos a connection your aim is not where your looking. There are big problems that need to be resolved and this is one of them. another note to you is that some of your facts are opinions and that does not present FACTS based on DATA.
6. OMG ENEMY COMES BACK TO LIFE
have you tried going to the settings and turning off damge prediction which btw was made in direect response to the CS community gas lighting itself and thinking CSGO had no delay in response times from the server. even happens if you do not have that enabled. I have seen this also. Now part of the problem is that a person like you should listen to others before you belt in with your opinions and listen to why this game has issues instead of jumping to conclusions and saying I only present opinions. You need to understand this is very broad on the problems and issues seen by a majority of players in the game. This to me should tell you that there still a problem if you see people in CS2 lobby saying this guy is so cheating, Keep getting vac auth error cant launch the game, Cant play with a 50+ ping and so much more. Its in your face and seems to me that people are trying to simply communicate. Nothing is being done, Nothing. Why because they would rather collect that money.
P.S. You have a narrative to shut me up. and I will not till its FIXED.

[kalebin]

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[Ãg€ñ†کmïth]

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

Origineel geplaatst door ÐîGîTå£|Ãg€ñ†کmïth:

Do not insult me or talk down to me with your statement "most of this will likely fly over your head." You just turned me away with that statement.

rich considering you spent the last few posts insulting me.
not an insult just a fact considering you just ignore anything that does not fit your narrative,

Actually you came to me with your disrespect in my thread.

[Hamless Hog]

Origineel geplaatst door Ãg€ñ†کmïth:

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

rich considering you spent the last few posts insulting me.
not an insult just a fact considering you just ignore anything that does not fit your narrative,

Actually you came to me with your disrespect in my thread.

Im so confused here, are you asking people to insult you, why?

[🐠🍑]

Can we get back on topic here? I disagree with the OPs entire statement its false and NOT TRUE and valve cares a lot about the game

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[Renos]

Origineel geplaatst door Ãg€ñ†کmïth:

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

rich considering you spent the last few posts insulting me.
not an insult just a fact considering you just ignore anything that does not fit your narrative,

Actually you came to me with your disrespect in my thread.

you fired the first shot
i simply clapped back
you have no real argument other than oh your disrespecting me and your a valve bootlicker,
if that is your only defense you've lost the argument you can't prove anything so you default into high school level drama, Grow up.

[Ãg€ñ†کmïth]

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

Origineel geplaatst door Ãg€ñ†کmïth:

Actually you came to me with your disrespect in my thread.

you fired the first shot
i simply clapped back
you have no real argument other than oh your disrespecting me and your a valve bootlicker,
if that is your only defense you've lost the argument you can't prove anything so you default into high school level drama, Grow up.

LOL you did you came in talking smack about opinions. why do you not understand you put the ripple in the pond and you got back what you put out? We are done with this your not focused on the task at hand Fixing the game.

[Hamless Hog]

Origineel geplaatst door Ãg€ñ†کmïth:

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

you fired the first shot
i simply clapped back
you have no real argument other than oh your disrespecting me and your a valve bootlicker,
if that is your only defense you've lost the argument you can't prove anything so you default into high school level drama, Grow up.

LOL you did you came in talking smack about opinions. why do you not understand you put the ripple in the pond and you got back what you put out?

Thats literally what youve been doing, with me for example. Why are you so against discussing the topic?

[Ãg€ñ†کmïth]

Origineel geplaatst door Renos:

man i love a thread with a whole lot of yapping about issues that straight up do not actually exist in cs2. Complaning about things have been a thing since 1,,6 or GO. Or complaining because they fell for a scam and steam support wont dupe items for their mistake.

guess what look at that. You started with this. this is you with inflammatory insults aimed at my posts. Do i make my self clear on what you started here? Own up to your fault.