Just take down premier already

[Iflon]

So another game where my team pick enemy teams best map and they are confused why we don't care to try hard to boost them.

Another thing i play mainly Inf, vertigo and nuke and all the randoms me and my friends are queued with is exactly opposite Dust 2 and mirrage ancient as decider.

why valve, why? if took in people who have maps in common we would have better match and less angry players complaine about map picks

i think if a map is full red or close to it that map should only require 2 votes to be banned since in most case banning enemy best map should be a ban priority unless group agree to otherwise and with current system is to easy to find 3 bad players that pick a map just because they like it but not because they think there team is gonna win and that's just as much griefing as anything else in my book

[Iflon]

Originally posted by Pressony:

Originally posted by Iflon:

One thing is to play the map, i do play it in competetive under controled enviroment but i don't care to carry 3 ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Russians and specially not when the game itself even show that there is barely any in our group that have won on that map but the enemy team have won massive in past games.

want to compare it to pro eSports? how many team don't you see never playing a specific map and if you always ban the same map you wont have to ever play it you can just focus the rest.

If premier is supposed to be any serious you have to admit I'm right you gotta think about your team vs the enemy not what you like to play for fun and giggles.

The stats you see is just a rough estimation of how your team or the enemy team might have an advantage on the map. Individuals and the team as a whole still plays a bigger role into winning the match. You think I win all the maps my team supposably have an insane advantage on? No, obviously not. I've been 2-13 by enemy teams with almost no wins on the map because my team had ego issues. As for the Pro scene, how many times have you seen Pros lose on their map choice because the enemy team had better team work? Lots right.

You can't change others, but you can change yourself. So stop focusing on the numbers you see at the map choice. Stop blaming your team when you lose a duel or don't get traded out. Start playing the game to have fun and keep working on improving your self instead. You will do significantly better when you stop caring about dumb ass map stats and have fun BSing with the team instead of being heated about something out of your control.

Well there is always a number of factors playing in but can we deny that if the team who have many wins recently get there map of choise they are in fairly good advantage if the other team have very low on it.

obviously you can win over the enemy team sometimes if cause oddly enough some of those could be carried too or have bad day, connection issue or god knows what.

but overall i take the indicator quite serious and when i see my team leave maps open like this for enemy to have there way the team im on is not playing well either so i have my past games to judge from and if me and my friend/'s who dont play these maps end up performing way better then them it also just shows had they had on average there own performance they would been losing big time.

so for me how can i say it's okay? cause i just don't see any valid reason behind there pic than they just want to play a map and we are back at if you only want to play one map go play that in competetive.

I have so many games of inferno who is a map i really dislike but its proably my second most played map but as an desider due to our best vertigo almost gets banned instantly ( why? cause we have super high win rate on that map )

im just tired of being punished by my team not being as clever as enemy team when i duo or solo

again i can't see any positive thought of pick enemy best map.

and if you are gonna argue the ones who chose that map feel great about it why is it not present on there statistics well because they didn't win on it yet and i feel that is the final nail in the coffin that had they had anything show up it could maybe be debateable if worth trying but that was not the case here

[76561199567357115]

Basically, dude is tilted before the match even get started just because of some graphs that doen't even show actual state of things. Kinda stupid way of looking at things. Especially at such a low ranks.

[Iflon]

Originally posted by Digital Farmer:

Basically, dude is tilted before the match even get started just because of some graphs that doen't even show actual state of things. Kinda stupid way of looking at things. Especially at such a low ranks.

So what exactly do you mean it dont show actually state of things. are you gonna tell me it would show up as im good on dust 2 if i never played it? no

it shows exactly the maps i win on and give a very clear indication of what maps i won weather it be because i performed good nor bad.

SO yes it does not show your personal performance pr map but a rough indication of what maps you win

[76561199567357115]

Originally posted by Iflon:

Originally posted by Digital Farmer:

Basically, dude is tilted before the match even get started just because of some graphs that doen't even show actual state of things. Kinda stupid way of looking at things. Especially at such a low ranks.

So what exactly do you mean it dont show actually state of things. are you gonna tell me it would show up as im good on dust 2 if i never played it? no

it shows exactly the maps i win on and give a very clear indication of what maps i won weather it be because i performed good nor bad.

SO yes it does not show your personal performance pr map but a rough indication of what maps you win

Nah, it doesn't matter at all. Dude, it's literally lowest ranks, they're too unconsistent to care. If you're REALLY better than average of your rank, you will rekt em even on your worst map.

[THE LORD]

Like I said earlier, if premier is too hard, just play regular MM.

They are the same and you get to pick your maps.

[Iflon]

Originally posted by THE LORD:

Like I said earlier, if premier is too hard, just play regular MM.

They are the same and you get to pick your maps.

Premier is actually more easy lol

And the problem is not that i want just one map, my problem is my team choose a map that highly put our win at risk

[76561199592687968]

Originally posted by Iflon:

Originally posted by THE LORD:

Like I said earlier, if premier is too hard, just play regular MM.

They are the same and you get to pick your maps.

Premier is actually more easy lol

And the problem is not that i want just one map, my problem is my team choose a map that highly put our win at risk

The only risk at low ranks is having some guy who plays map for a first time and can't find a way to a plant XD

You're overreacting, focus on your own performance instead of such a meaningless things.

[Iflon]

Originally posted by Defiler:

Originally posted by Iflon:

Premier is actually more easy lol

And the problem is not that i want just one map, my problem is my team choose a map that highly put our win at risk

The only risk at low ranks is having some guy who play map first time and can't find a way to plant XD

You're overreacting, focus on your own performance instead of such a meaningless things.

I mean id rather take that guy sometimes cause at least i can laugh at it knowing there is a reason for them to do bad.

but going out of your way to to put enemy team in the better odds sorry it's just stupid

[76561199592687968]

Originally posted by Iflon:

Originally posted by Defiler:

The only risk at low ranks is having some guy who play map first time and can't find a way to plant XD

You're overreacting, focus on your own performance instead of such a meaningless things.

I mean id rather take that guy sometimes cause at least i can laugh at it knowing there is a reason for them to do bad.

but going out of your way to to put enemy team in the better odds sorry it's just stupid

Dude, how can't you understand? THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THE GAME AT ALL.

[Pressony]

Originally posted by Iflon:

Originally posted by Pressony:

The stats you see is just a rough estimation of how your team or the enemy team might have an advantage on the map. Individuals and the team as a whole still plays a bigger role into winning the match. You think I win all the maps my team supposably have an insane advantage on? No, obviously not. I've been 2-13 by enemy teams with almost no wins on the map because my team had ego issues. As for the Pro scene, how many times have you seen Pros lose on their map choice because the enemy team had better team work? Lots right.

You can't change others, but you can change yourself. So stop focusing on the numbers you see at the map choice. Stop blaming your team when you lose a duel or don't get traded out. Start playing the game to have fun and keep working on improving your self instead. You will do significantly better when you stop caring about dumb ass map stats and have fun BSing with the team instead of being heated about something out of your control.

Well there is always a number of factors playing in but can we deny that if the team who have many wins recently get there map of choise they are in fairly good advantage if the other team have very low on it.

obviously you can win over the enemy team sometimes if cause oddly enough some of those could be carried too or have bad day, connection issue or god knows what.

but overall i take the indicator quite serious and when i see my team leave maps open like this for enemy to have there way the team im on is not playing well either so i have my past games to judge from and if me and my friend/'s who dont play these maps end up performing way better then them it also just shows had they had on average there own performance they would been losing big time.

so for me how can i say it's okay? cause i just don't see any valid reason behind there pic than they just want to play a map and we are back at if you only want to play one map go play that in competetive.

I have so many games of inferno who is a map i really dislike but its proably my second most played map but as an desider due to our best vertigo almost gets banned instantly ( why? cause we have super high win rate on that map )

im just tired of being punished by my team not being as clever as enemy team when i duo or solo

again i can't see any positive thought of pick enemy best map.

and if you are gonna argue the ones who chose that map feel great about it why is it not present on there statistics well because they didn't win on it yet and i feel that is the final nail in the coffin that had they had anything show up it could maybe be debateable if worth trying but that was not the case here

Dude, vertigo is my best map on stat with a 61% win rate, but I dislike the map because its a layered map and I will more than likely be a bottom fragger with people around my elo. I make up for being crap at Vertigo by coms, utility and being entry. Infernal is my 4th worst map at a 55% win rate but, I will normally be second or top fragger there because I know every pre-fire angle and smoke spam on the map. You just have to play the hand dealt to you and have fun with it.

So pep talk time. Like I said, its just stats that is a very rough estimation of how well your team might do on the map. I've literally won more matches on maps where my team are at a disadvantage than I did when we had an advantage on map selection. Team mentality plays a bigger role to you winning or losing than some stats on the screen will. Just learn to play all the maps to a certain degree, check your ego and you will climb. I literally solo Que to 22k not because I can click heads but because I can support the people who can click heads, by trading kills, Coms or using util. Stop hating on things you literally cant control.

I've literally stop voting on maps because I want to do my best at what ever map I get. The biggest hurdle you will face in this game is yourself and maybe cheaters at higher elos. Lost a duel and my team didn't trade me out, well ♥♥♥♥ I should have been better. I lurked away from my team and got killed, well fk I should have been better. I suck at this map because I don't know the angles, welp I should have learned it sooner. If you are more worried about stats then trying your best, then its literally a you issue.

Personal suggestion to you is to stop voting on maps and just play what ever map your team wants. The more pissy you are, the worst you get. Every person above 20k elo will tell you the same thing. Only reason people even vote at maps at 20k elo is we might get a map we like, not because we have high stats for that map.

[Iflon]

Originally posted by Pressony:

Originally posted by Iflon:

Well there is always a number of factors playing in but can we deny that if the team who have many wins recently get there map of choise they are in fairly good advantage if the other team have very low on it.

obviously you can win over the enemy team sometimes if cause oddly enough some of those could be carried too or have bad day, connection issue or god knows what.

but overall i take the indicator quite serious and when i see my team leave maps open like this for enemy to have there way the team im on is not playing well either so i have my past games to judge from and if me and my friend/'s who dont play these maps end up performing way better then them it also just shows had they had on average there own performance they would been losing big time.

so for me how can i say it's okay? cause i just don't see any valid reason behind there pic than they just want to play a map and we are back at if you only want to play one map go play that in competetive.

I have so many games of inferno who is a map i really dislike but its proably my second most played map but as an desider due to our best vertigo almost gets banned instantly ( why? cause we have super high win rate on that map )

im just tired of being punished by my team not being as clever as enemy team when i duo or solo

again i can't see any positive thought of pick enemy best map.

and if you are gonna argue the ones who chose that map feel great about it why is it not present on there statistics well because they didn't win on it yet and i feel that is the final nail in the coffin that had they had anything show up it could maybe be debateable if worth trying but that was not the case here

Dude, vertigo is my best map on stat with a 61% win rate, but I dislike the map because its a layered map and I will more than likely be a bottom fragger with people around my elo. I make up for being crap at Vertigo by coms, utility and being entry. Infernal is my 4th worst map at a 55% win rate but, I will normally be second or top fragger there because I know every pre-fire angle and smoke spam on the map. You just have to play the hand dealt to you and have fun with it.

So pep talk time. Like I said, its just stats that is a very rough estimation of how well your team might do on the map. I've literally won more matches on maps where my team are at a disadvantage than I did when we had an advantage on map selection. Team mentality plays a bigger role to you winning or losing than some stats on the screen will. Just learn to play all the maps to a certain degree, check your ego and you will climb. I literally solo Que to 22k not because I can click heads but because I can support the people who can click heads, by trading kills, Coms or using util. Stop hating on things you literally cant control.

I've literally stop voting on maps because I want to do my best at what ever map I get. The biggest hurdle you will face in this game is yourself and maybe cheaters at higher elos. Lost a duel and my team didn't trade me out, well ♥♥♥♥ I should have been better. I lurked away from my team and got killed, well fk I should have been better. I suck at this map because I don't know the angles, welp I should have learned it sooner. If you are more worried about stats then trying your best, then its literally a you issue.

Personal suggestion to you is to stop voting on maps and just play what ever map your team wants. The more pissy you are, the worst you get. Every person above 20k elo will tell you the same thing. Only reason people even vote at maps at 20k elo is we might get a map we like, not because we have high stats for that map.

Well i don't care to reach 10k+ or 20k+ elo i just want games to go well and this unballance at low elo really bothers me cause like this i feel most of times it could of been an easy win if people just put two and two together.

again you say your 20k elo that mean you proably have decent hardware, gaming equipment etc, you have patience to wait for enemy to do the first mistake of stepping etc and reveal position not like 3k elo where people don't even know shifting exist.

i hope you get my point im not at your elo and i don't aim for it at any given time i play with my community of mainly hard stuck silver and a few who play like myself.

and belive it or not those stats does quite mean a lot this low elo cause the distance from being a punching bag and one that get kills are quite either or not so much inbetween.

Like to give a vison from my games most games are top two players 20-40 kills and last 3 players 0-8 kills and i bet you very rarely see that in 20k elo and this is just how low elo is due to the fact cs2 elo is team elo and not personal performance elo like faceit etc

[THE LORD]

Originally posted by Iflon:

Originally posted by THE LORD:

Like I said earlier, if premier is too hard, just play regular MM.

They are the same and you get to pick your maps.

Premier is actually more easy lol

And the problem is not that i want just one map, my problem is my team choose a map that highly put our win at risk

Then all the more you should play MM because you can choose your map.

Both modes are identical in mechanics anyway.

[♛⁧Schultheiß]

If you want to play inferno. Just queue inferno.

[MrShkafff]

[Toki's Road to 6k Elo]

Facts, if you ban Dust 2 and vote for Anubis we're going to have a problem.