Add A Women Default Opperator

[lexi]

As many people know you start off by playing on either CT (Counter-Terrorist) or T (Terrorist). Each default operator on both sides are both of the male gender. I fully understand that there is a market set in place to buy new operators, skin, guns, gloves, charms, and really anything to customize someone's inventory to their liking. However, you have to pay a fee to obtain each item outside of the default CT and T operator skins (which are both male). The biggest issue with this is that women have to pay to be women. Women are already ostracized in the gaming community enough. In my personal experience just using voice chat in a friendly manner could lead me to get kicked from a game solely due to the fact I was born a different gender other than male. My biggest suggestion to the CS2 team would be to just add a default woman operator skin. Nothing too flashy, just a default skin similar to CT and T. I am not asking for zero male default faction skins either, adding a different gender to either or side would be beneficiary. . Furthermore, as I continue to play CS I have noticed the default operators never seem to even mention women. The only time women have even been mentioned in a catchphrase was “"For Queen and country, men!" where once again men were the main subject. When starting a round, “Let's give it to them, boys!" was what I would be greeted with. This might seem insignificant at first glance, but after hundreds of hours of play, they start to feel exclusionary and it strongly disappoints me to see my gender not be included. Women should not have to be penalized and forced to “pay” to play as their assigned gender just because they weren’t born a male.Women in gaming already face a lot of challenges, and this practice further perpetuates the idea that women’s representation is something players should pay extra for. I support the idea of buying skins and the market that is currently available, but I really support the idea of adding a default women operator to one or the other side for added representation. This small change could go a long way toward ensuring that women are overlooked in the game and that Valve truly cares about each and every player, no matter their gender.

[bAd a!m]

Originally posted by El Presidente:

and dont stop with female characters, move on with gay, lesbians, trans, black, white, blind, no legs, no arms, big, small, trained, fat, slim,...... ppl

if thats a problem than improving skills get some help.

I'd like to see a no legs, no arms, small, slim player skin. Not gonna break the game at all, no advantage at peaking, or small shadows, or being able to always run at crouch level. Yeah.

[J8MC -.7]

xd

[Houdini]

stay woke and broke. you can't afford to buy a cheap female skin to support your SJW ideology

[Vassago Rain]

Originally posted by THE LORD:

Originally posted by lexi:

honestly i don't think you read what i said at at.. so here "and this practice further perpetuates the idea that women’s representation is something players should pay extra for"

Your gender studies degree would allow you the income to pay for it.

Made me laugh.

[lexi]

Originally posted by Houdini:

stay woke and broke. you can't afford to buy a cheap female skin to support your SJW ideology :lunar2019laughingpig:

i can afford to buy a female skin but i chose not to, at the end of the day it isn't about paying and regardless if i had every female operator i still would have made this post. the point is that women have to pay extra just because they were born an opposing gender. "stay woke and broke" yet you just can't seem to read or better yet understand the underlying problem i made in this post. i don't ask for cs to eliminate every man faction character i just ask for a free base game women operator skin.

[lexi]

Originally posted by Houdini:

stay woke and broke. you can't afford to buy a cheap female skin to support your SJW ideology :lunar2019laughingpig:

furthermore you are just a troll and don't want to actually give constructive opinions. you call me a "social justice warrior" but almost every game without a campaign where gender would actually matter to further the story line has implemented a free diverse character. fortnite has a rotation of black, white, asian, men, women characters. Valorant has the same. Even a hardcore game such as rust has a randomization of diverse characters.

[TheLevelCap]

There are female default CTs, but they're wearing masks so you can't see who male or female.

[lexi]

Originally posted by TheLevelCap:

There are female default CTs, but they're wearing masks so you can't see who male or female.

Incorrect. I would actually not mind the mask part however we know this is false due to their catchphrases. First of all they have a male voices and you can read my replies, none of their voice lines speak about women ever.

[SnUs]

Originally posted by ♡Rinetta Fox♡:

Agree. But they don't cares about it.

why should they

[i goon to yaoi]

agreed, but the base game's still missing a lot of cs:go content. that and the cheater problem need to be fixed first imo
Also, didnt an all-female pro team sign a petiton asking for the exact same thing (free female agents)?

[76561199739790055]

no theres no need to do that

While I respect the idea of adding a default female operator, it’s unnecessary and doesn’t impact gameplay. CS2 focuses on skill and strategy, not operator identity. Many games like Horizon, GTA 6, and Tomb Raider already heavily spotlight female leads, which feels like male protagonists are being excluded.

In CS2, players can already customize operators through skins, keeping the default neutral. Representation should be about balance, not shifting focus from one group to another, and this change risks unnecessary division.

[Frezmo]

It's a highly competitive eSport, all of the models need to be the same (this is why agent skins are banned from tournaments). Considering the vast majority of the businesses customers and target audience are men, it makes financial sense for valve to keep the models as they are.

Realistically what percentage of the player base do you think are women? Maybe 2-3% if that? Consider that half of the women don't even care about default models which probably more than half don't care. Then you are likely to have less than 1% of the player base actually give a ♥♥♥♥. Literally no benefit to valve doing this. Furthermore, I guarantee you that if valve did this more people would be pissed off than people who are happy considering the competitive nature of the game and the reasons I outlines above.

Women and men are different shapes, we have different body proportions, it wouldn't work with standard model hitboxes. Women have typically have smaller torsos, then playing a women model would have an unfair advantage. Can't have that in a competitive game.

Nothing to do with politics or sexism or any of that. It is ONLY for the reason of player model shape, it isn't personal it's mathematics and geometrics.

[𐰢]

Originally posted by YT @instituteofgamin:

Originally posted by Toki's Road to 6k Elo:

Buddy. you peaked at 3k elo, and I am not into defining what is war and where it applies.
I am talking about warrior aesthetics, about why I like 40k aesthetics and why I do not like Concord aesthetics. You are, you like, and you want and CS is not what you want and like, visibly.
Quit pushing your ♥♥♥♥ in established titles.

I never peaked at 3k elo, I peaked at 2k elo and got carried to 3k.

Whatever elo you choose to look at, the ranked games are all 5v5.
You go in with ONE main weapon, a side arm and some nades.

You're always fighting against TIME.

Even killing the opposite team, sometimes doesn't guarantee victory, because you failed the main objective.

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Does that sound like WAR or more like tactical ops?
Have you ever seen a war where they fight with limited time and just 1 main weapon?
On all the maps, you always WALK or RUN, you're never deployed with mechanized brigades.
You got no air support.
You got no heli evac.

and so on.

You need to take a break from the internet.

[アキウアラ]

Yes please, make em sexy with cute asian face, also they should have their own female arms.

[,,sQuirrel,,]

ChatGPT, please summarize what this woman said here:

The woman expresses concerns about the lack of female representation in Counter-Strike 2 (CS2). She notes that the default characters for both Counter-Terrorists (CT) and Terrorists (T) are male, and female players must pay to access female skins. This practice, she argues, penalizes women for wanting to play as their own gender, contributing to feelings of exclusion.

She highlights the broader issue of women being ostracized in gaming, sharing her personal experiences of discrimination and exclusion due to her gender, such as being kicked from games for using voice chat. She also points out the exclusionary language used by the male characters in the game, which further emphasizes male representation and neglects female presence.

Her main suggestion is to introduce a default female operator skin for either faction, similar to the existing male defaults. She supports the current market for customizable items but stresses the importance of free and inclusive representation for all genders. She believes this small addition could help foster greater inclusivity and show that the game’s developers value all players equally.