Razer Deathadder 2013

[Grzegorz Braun]

how many dpi in Counter Strike Global Offensive?

[BDK]

I always use max dpi and turn down any fake acceleration in games and Windows. Makes aiming much more precise and movement much smoother. Of course that's using an old 2000dpi mouse.

It really comes down to preference.

[Azza ☠]

If you don't already have a quality mouse pad, highly recommend:
Razer Goliathus Speed Edition

This will add a little extra to your FPS gaming with a mice such as the Razer Deathadder. It's seriously a good smooth boost to start with.

Disable mouse acceleration is another recommendation and setting it to raw input. To do this, somewhere under your game's 'autoexec.cfg' file, add the following...

// Mouse commands
m_rawinput "1"
m_mouseaccel1 "0"
m_mouseaccel2 "0"

Then under Start Menu > Control Panel > Mouse Settings > Pointer Options > Make sure bar is in the middle (6/10 windows sens).

Set the actual mouse to around 450-500 DPI, this is what the professional play on, if you can handle it on 1080p (1920x1080). However, read below for more details in regards to your mouse.

Mice, generally, perform better in terms of perfect control speed the higher the DPI. This is true of the Logitech MX518, original DeathAdder and quite a few popular optical gaming mice. Avago (the developers that make the actual sensors for Razer, Logitech, etc) released sensors that actually perform best at low DPI - this includes G100s, G400s, etc... and the Death Adder 2013.

For your DA2013, therefore 400 or 800 DPI is advisable, they are multiples of 6400 and would be native to run it best on. Adjust ingame mouse sensivity between 1.3 and 3.2 depending on your screen resolution and reaction timing.

[Azza ☠]

// CS:GO Autoexec CFG

// Crosshair

sfcrosshair "1"
cl_crosshairalpha "250"
cl_crosshaircolor "5"
cl_crosshaircolor_b "255"
cl_crosshaircolor_g "0"
cl_crosshaircolor_r "255"
cl_crosshairdot "0"
cl_crosshairscale "120"
cl_crosshairsize "4.5"
cl_crosshairthickness "1.2"
cl_crosshairusealpha "1"
cl_crosshairstyle "2"


// Viewmodel

viewmodel_fov "62.5"
viewmodel_offset_x "2"
viewmodel_offset_y "2"
viewmodel_offset_z "-2"


// Bobbing and movement shifting

cl_viewmodel_shift_left_amt "0"
cl_viewmodel_shift_right_amt "0"
cl_bob_lower_amt "0"
cl_bobamt_lat "0"
cl_bobamt_vert "0"
cl_bobcycle "2"


// Audio

snd_mixahead "0.05"
snd_headphone_pan_exponent "2"
snd_musicvolume "0"


// Rates and Interpolation

cl_cmdrate "128"
cl_updaterate "128"
cl_interp "0"
cl_interp_ratio "1"
rate "128000"


// Mouse commands

m_rawinput "1"
m_mouseaccel1 "0"
m_mouseaccel2 "0"


// Miscellaneous

cl_autowepswitch "0"
cl_autohelp "0"
cl_showhelp "0"
cl_righthand "1"
cl_forcepreload "1"
hud_showtargetid "0"
net_graph "1"
mm_dedicated_search_maxping "50"
mm_session_search_ping_limit "50"
sensitivity "1.5"
fps_max "200"

[Grzegorz Braun]

ok, thanks guys, You helped me a lot ;3

[pickle]

first mistake was buying a gimmick mouse like any razor product. Shoulda gotten a quality product, like logitech g400

[Azza ☠]

The Logitech MX518 and G500 are excellent for hardcore gaming, however the Razer DeathAdder is right up their with them. It's not a gimmick mouse, rather basic featured and wired, with everything you need and nothing you don't - unlike some of the others in the Razer line up, which try to be a little too fancy and break on ya. If it's any Razer product, I would personally choice the DeathAdder, it's a fine choice. One I personally recommend for competitive gamers.

[Azza ☠]

I think people can get confused on higher DPI is better... You can get a 6400 DPI mouse these days, but realisitically you probably will never get up to it's highest setting.

Most believe higher DPI and lower sensitivity = better accuracy. Which is true, but it depends on the task. This highly depends on the application's engine behaviour, movement/mouse-engine ingame, mouse's overall sensor performances and surface.

A high DPI means that the hardware is more accurate. It can tell the difference between point A and point B much much better. If you drew a curve, it would be able to track on that curve without leaving it, lower DPI if you cared to look would be a bit jagged with straighter lines going from point to point - it adds more guess work and just picks the quickest straight line to get there. Having the hardware determine what is going on is normally better than pretending with software.

Sadly however extremely high DPI is really just a marketing gimmick with no practical functionality at all. Like putting cool looking stripes on your car or spoilers. Higher your screen resolution is, the higher DPI might benifit more to a point, then it's meaningless and sometimes even has negative results.

Theres no such thing as a "more accurate" mouse due to DPI for FPS shooters. All you need is the right minimum DPI for your monitor resolution and sensitivity. Beyond that you get no benefit and actually can create negative acceleration or multiply any other accel that might exist. Which is why you want to remove mouse acceleration instead and sometimes a lower DPI can be more accurate. Don't get me wrong, you still want a high polling rate (1000hz), which is the reports per second your mouse responses back.

Try this, in a FPS game, one swip/spin the mouse from left to right, if it circles your aim upwards into the sky, rather than staying straight out in front, then you have something known as negative acceleration. The higher DPS would actually be throwing off your aim. If your really good, you want to make the single swip spin 360 degrees and return to around the point it started. Then you can do 180 degree trick shots and flick snipering a lot easier. Lower DPI would have it more snappy back to those points.

The other way around can also occur when too low DPI results in the mouse jumping over pixels. For pixel perfect drawing this would suck, so most people want 1200 DPI or higher on their OS/Apps these days due to the higher screen resolutions.

[newgraund.DLL #DOOM/E1M1]

Who cares how many, there is no "real" difference between any laser mouse.
Marketing brain washing kids /w nonsences.

[nizde331]

Those DPI, sensitity and wanna be pro questions are boring and stupid. Use whatever you want. Try all DPI settings, think whats best for you and play it. Wtf, changing DPI wont make you better player or something

"Marketing brain washing kids /w nonsences." AGREE

[Doge]

Originally posted by nizde331:

Those DPI, sensitity and wanna be pro questions are boring and stupid. Use whatever you want. Try all DPI settings, think whats best for you and play it. Wtf, changing DPI wont make you better player or something

"Marketing brain washing kids /w nonsences." AGREE

Yes it does, counter strike is a game of muscule memory, and is better play at 400-800 dpi because if you have more dpi there is aceleration

Maybe you dont see the difference when playing in low level pub, AKA < Legendary Eagle

[GhostKellz]

Its all personal. I have the Razer DA 3.5g and it runs great. I'll never buy a razer keyboard (2 Black widow's just stopped working suddenly after 1-2 years.) But the DA runs great. It's native dpi i believe is 1800, I've tried using that (too fast imo) went down to 800 dpi which was my settings even in source at around a 1.2 in game sens.

I recently switched down to 400 dpi / 2.4 in game sens and to be honest once I tried that DPI/Sens out it felt much smoother, better accuracy and just felt right, It still took a few hours to get use to but the change is very minor, to me I found it far less "jittery" at 400dpi, it is all down to preference, Reason I used 800 dpi was reading so many posts about not going under 800 dpi when your using a 1920x1080 resolution to avoid pixel skipping etc, I however experienced no issues lowering my DPI to 400. I'd suggest not listening to what pro's use, other players use and use settings that you find to be the most comfortable, Typically you will want to try to play on the lowest possible DPI/ In game sens that you can get away with.

[sfektsz]

Originally posted by Rakim:

Its all personal. I have the Razer DA 3.5g and it runs great. I'll never buy a razer keyboard (2 Black widow's just stopped working suddenly after 1-2 years.) But the DA runs great. It's native dpi i believe is 1800, I've tried using that (too fast imo) went down to 800 dpi which was my settings even in source at around a 1.2 in game sens.

I recently switched down to 400 dpi / 2.4 in game sens and to be honest once I tried that DPI/Sens out it felt much smoother, better accuracy and just felt right, It still took a few hours to get use to but the change is very minor, to me I found it far less "jittery" at 400dpi, it is all down to preference, Reason I used 800 dpi was reading so many posts about not going under 800 dpi when your using a 1920x1080 resolution to avoid pixel skipping etc, I however experienced no issues lowering my DPI to 400. I'd suggest not listening to what pro's use, other players use and use settings that you find to be the most comfortable, Typically you will want to try to play on the lowest possible DPI/ In game sens that you can get away with.

I read the same thing regarding 800dpi & playing on 1920x1080. Apparently 800dpi would be more precise since it is tracking twice as much, but I've always used 400dpi @ 1000Hz with the DA 2013, but friends tell me to use 800dpi to get the most out of the DA 2013.