Valve....You're Losing the Wrong Players....Rev 1.0

[Jackie Moon]

First Off....I love to play a good game of CS:GO.....but where is a good game of CS:GO???

Let's all work together to make CS:GO as solid of a game as it once was. How do we manage this? Let's work with Valve to highlight games and players in which the improbable seem to consistently happen.

Valve,
Please allows us real players to post improbable scores here in the forums to assist in your inconsistent player detection to become stronger. I have no problem with my scores ever being posted so then why can't all players scores be posted?

We all have good and bad days but as you know a declining player base is due to the casual observations of many players within CS:GO. In 3 consecutive matches I have had players on my team defending players on the opposite team. This does point some come level of collusion.

Valve...collusion sucks and leads to more and more players simply walking away.

Let me know how I can assist and I'll be more than willing to provide any requested information.

The last honest CS:GO player,
Jackie Moon / Les Grossman

[bUm805]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

The last honest CS:GO player,
Jackie Moon / Les Grossman

[Ray]

"the last honest csgo player"
That's really disrespectful to all other honest csgo player, which makes you less honest, don't you think?

Also, you can easily upload your games on csgostats gg like shown:
https://csgostats.gg/player/76561197978008075#/matches

And as you can see, matches are fine.

[Dying Lactic Acid Bacteria]

Oh your considering yourself as the last honest csgo player ?
So basicalky your offending the community as well as those who are legit , your making yourself look like "Selfish" and ignorant.

[Dying Lactic Acid Bacteria]

Also ur not honest if u have a private profile bcs ur preventing others from accessing ur profile data making u look more sus
Also how funny that mostly private profiles make unwanted huge arguemental threads which eventually get locked by a moderator.

[Mehrshad]

oh look a private profile is talking about cs go is bad hahaha

[Oneir]

Cmon guys... Don´t feed the troll, if it´s this obvious.

[bUm805]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Hi Everybody,

Here is what I love about the CS:GO forums. Read the above from jerolioAV, bUm805, and youtube.com/RaimaNd and what do we all see....Personal attacks. Now the first 2 guys are serious STEAM personalities but yt...is a profile 0? Put some E-F-F-O-R-T forth bro.

These guys don't want to take the time and discuss smurfing/hacking in COMP or what the average player experiences in Casual. Nope....let's get together and attack the OP and not discuss common, well-known issues within CS:GO.

You insult every person who loves this game by signing off as "The Last Honest CS:GO Player"

I've voiced my concern in the past. Offered ideas, etc. It falls on deaf ears. I've done the same in other games i've put thousands of hours into.

Escape from Tarkov
Warzone
Pubg
Cod series
World of Warcraft

List goes on. Devs care but its a constant fight with cheat devs. Just cause they don't update us every day/week/month doesn't mean they don't care.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

but....every other game is pushing back hard core on hack boyz. COD has even gone to the hardware level of banning. Let's get aggressive boyz!

I hope you know the standard monthly sub from any decent cheat provider like aimjunkies or chods comes standard with hardware id spoofers and built in vpns. Can you imagine what premium subs get?

[Jackie Moon]

Hi Everybody,

What a great conversation this is turning into. So the average forum poster still will not talk about the game itself...do they even play the game?

JM / LG is public boyz.....yes HE does spend money...oh shoot we can't comment on that fact.....OH WAIT.......NO He is still playing other Steam games just not CS:GO very much. :)

I love fishing for the real trolls and ya'll have a hook in your mouths.......Let's talk about the player experience boyz. You've now been sucked into at least having a conversation as I have answered your basic need.

So Let's talk the game....bUm805 just provided the first real substantive information in this thread. The rest of you guys should take a seat and maybe think before posting.....I"m sure that is not required though....the thinking part.

bUm805....as somebody who is well aware of security flaws within software and hardware, I attended yearly security conferences, yes there are responses to code distributed by Valve or some other company.......the purpose of the responses means you're constantly making changes and adjustments to the hack boyz. It's not a static conversation but dynamic. The more encrypted variables you place within the code the better.

I work on systems we know can be hacked but by making constant changes, banning people who don't update, we are constantly changing the playing field for the gamer. The hardcore hacker is difficult to stop but the casual player that has their license, hardware banned will stop the behaviour.

Let's talk about score posting.......Make the hack boyz public. Everybody has a good game but for now it's all within a single game environment. Clean players do not care if they are exposed for a great game!!!!!

Jackie Moon / Les Grossman
The Last Honest CS:GO Player

[Ray]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Here is what I love about the CS:GO forums. Read the above from jerolioAV, bUm805, and youtube.com/RaimaNd and what do we all see....Personal attacks.

It's a personal attack to tell you that calling yourself "the only honest csgo player" is disrespectful? This has nothing to do with attacking. You were attacking us. We told you that you were attacking us.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Now the first 2 guys are serious STEAM personalities but yt...is a profile 0? Put some E-F-F-O-R-T forth bro.

I'm not your bro. And on top of that YOU should "put some effort" into it. Two things: 1. my profile is friends only, shown private to non-friends and private aswell as friends-only accounts are just shown as level 0. Beside that your profile is private/friends only aswell, my accs are huge and I put a ton of effort into it. This is your second personal attack, again, based on nothing but your lack of knowledge about the game (1. "last honest csgo player") and steam (2. you don't know how steam profile systems work).

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

These guys don't want to take the time and discuss smurfing/hacking in COMP or what the average player experiences in Casual. Nope....let's get together and attack the OP and not discuss common, well-known issues within CS:GO.

I've 1000 forum posts on this acc and in total 25.000 and you think I don't take my time "talking about things"? Just the next attack based on nothing.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

My profile is private for a reason boyz....if you read my last thread.....The TITLE of this one will help you.....JM/LG only cares about the player experience.

Again, I'm not your "boy" and far too old for beeing called a boy. Next disrespectful thing. Also why is it allowed for you to have a private profile, but not for others? And yes, we could read your last thread. But you could also read my posthistory and would see everything about the reasoning why my profiles are friends only (because of annoying friend requests of scammer bots) and you'd also know about the account age etc. pp.

So you expect us to accept all that and do "our research" on you while you don't do the same.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

TRUST ME....the game experience as Jackie Moon went way downhill as the original thread lasted 6 months. Clearly the name was passed around somewhere and conversations ended with poor gameplay when JM played CS:GO. I'm sure Les Grossman will be treated equally as bad.

103 games are uploaded on csgostats gg from your matchhistory, 17 had a cheater. That isn't that good, but also not that bad. I've 17% on my second acc(LEM) I play active on aswell and ~7% on my main acc I play on (supreme). You've 446 mm wins and very likely at least 1.000 mm games, making you an experienced player who could deal with most smurfs, don't you think? So you don't get that many cheater and you can compete against smurfs.

I'm not a fan of smurfs either. I've 4 accs, but 3 of them are above LEM and the 4. one is inactive after I made a test and needed 10 mm wins for it.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

JM/LG cares little about winning or losing but only about the fact that many really good players and friends have moved on from CS:GO. Why....Gameplay just doesn't seem fair in COMP or Casual.

Casual doesn't use skillbased ranking system and comp is fair. Your kd is above average and your win rate aswell. Meaning you're better than your enemy on average and win more games than you lose. And you're not "too good" for the enemies either, so it's not unfair for the enemies. 1.03 kd and 51% win quote actually is extremely balanaced, making your games perfectly balanced.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

When is the last time we heard about a significant ban hammer laid down?????

When the f2p updates was made roughly 10 days ago.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Let's be honest.....MONEY drives the game. Well, from my perspective I have not spent a cent on CS:GO since the original thread. Some great information was provided in the previous thread and I have respect for those that provided real information....but....every other game is pushing back hard core on hack boyz. COD has even gone to the hardware level of banning. Let's get aggressive boyz!

I highly doubt that any other game uses an selflearning AI to ban cheater like valve does. Also the amount of hardware power valve invested for fighting csgo cheater is huge. And also we discussed hardware ID bans plenty of times and again, when you'd do a little research and understand what hwid bans mean and what good and bad points it has you would come to the conclusion that it's bad.

Why it's bad? Because cheats would have an implemented script to spoof HWID. And it would actually ban more innocent people than cheater. Why? Because many people share their PC, like families. Imagine your brother cheated and your 4 other brothers and you aswell as your parents play aswell. Just because one brother cheated it would get 6 more innocent people banned. In internet cafes it's even worth. It would ban hundreds of people just because someone cheated on one of the pcs. And people buy used hardware/pc's. They would get banned aswell.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Gotta love the game to take the time I have taken in the previous thread and now in this one to highlight such issues. I could easily delete the game but that's not my nature. I understand VALVE might have determined the MONEY they get is just fine but I can always say I put forth ideas and opinions in an attempt to solve player side problems.

Valve is a company. Like every other company it's obviously focussing on earning money. That is their job and when they don't earn money they will shut down their company and hundreds or thousands of people will lose their job and we our steam accounts with games etc.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

I challenge the 3 previous reply personalities to provide game experience discussions. I can post scores all day long which contradict their efforts at statistic posting.

Next personal attack and disrespectful behaviour. You exclude me from talking to you just because my acc is friends only (like yours rofl).

Also. You can't post anything proving that there are too many cheater and smurfs.
https://csgostats.gg/player/76561198017531538#/
Your stats prove you wrong all the way.

Also. My game experience is VERY likely bigger than yours and the ones of the other 3 people (no offense). I play CS since 22 years, 30.000+ hours (6.500 hours in CSGO), played it professional for 6 years, was an analyst and trainer for more years afterwards and even active as an anti cheat admin.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Let me post the real scores and names and you'll quickly note the real games know how to hack and not get caught.......X games a day right to not get caught?????

Main 1:
https://csgostats.gg/player/76561197974580372
15% cheater

Main 2:
https://csgostats.gg/player/76561197978008075#/
7% cheater

Third acc:
https://csgostats.gg/player/76561198875387116
16% cheater

These are "the real stats". Not that many cheater. Again. Yes. I wish it could be better aswell and the last update clearly will make it better over time.

I posted your real stats already and showed you and everyone else that your experience isn't as bad as you claim.

That vac is too slow is known. The last blatant cheater against us was banned 9 months after we played against him. He has 500 mm wins.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Jackie Moon / Les Grossman
The Last Honest CS:GO Player

This is not an email, no reason to use your name at the end and you again disrespected everyone by writing "the last honest csgo player".

[Jackie Moon]

Hi youtube.com/RaimaNd,

Well thought out reply but apparently you missed I was fishing for those that focus only on private or not. Hook...Line....Sinker!!!!!!

Please check my profile as it is "Public". :)

Sorry to discredit much of your responses.

In regards to statistics.....Do you know how to hack? I do! Did you know your statistics are manipulated by good hackz?

Jackie Moon / Les Grossman
"Left blank due to controversy".....LOL

[Killer in House]

idk whats sader, people literally being baited by a troll or the troll himself :/

[bUm805]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Killer in House:

idk whats sader, people literally being baited by a troll or the troll himself :/

I'm your #1 fan Killer
/edit love you too RaimaNd

[Killer in House]

Ursprungligen skrivet av bUm805:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Killer in House:

idk whats sader, people literally being baited by a troll or the troll himself :/

I'm your #1 fan Killer :heartp:

<3
but fr tho its quite obvious within the first few lines of his post that hes baiting XD

[Ray]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Les Grossman:

Hi youtube.com/RaimaNd,

Well thought out reply but apparently you missed I was fishing for those that focus only on private or not. Hook...Line....Sinker!!!!!!

Please check my profile as it is "Public". :)

Sorry to discredit much of your responses.

In regards to statistics.....Do you know how to hack? I do! Did you know your statistics are manipulated by good hackz?

Thanks. And I'm not a fan of fishing or baiting anything and pretty much get baited into everything because I've high hope that every person is honest based on written stuff in this forum.

Yeah your profile isn't private anymore but it doesn't change anything, I only used it twice in my comment because you were talking about my profile.

I know a bit about programming but I can't hack myself. But I know how and that cheater can play as legit as legit player themselves. That beeing said nearly no one is that good at hiding their cheats. So yes, some people we both played against and aren't banned (yet) cheated. But it will not be that huge. Beside that I won most of my games against banned player meaning they either were so bad even with cheats or didn't cheat against us.

Ursprungligen skrivet av bUm805:

/edit love you too RaimaNd :tlove:

<3

[⍟Tex]

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