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chudbert Sep 16, 2023 @ 12:20am
anyone else got m_yaw bind banned? (CSGO NOT CS2)
hi, i got "convicted by overwatch" about 3 months ago and ever since i've thought it could've been a phone number ban (i have an old main account where i cheated 4 years ago) but it doesn't make sense since both this and the old account have been connected 2 years, if steam could ban for connecting a banned acc to a clean account they would've done it the moment i connected this account but they did it after 2 years. Now that there's trouble with the m_yaw in CS2 I'm going back to thinking it was my bind that I set the day before or the day that I got banned. Though I didn't go crazy with it (i.e using it for a split second like it's anti-aim or something, i really only span a lot during round start) could that have caused my ban?

my bind:
x = m_yaw 100 - sets the m_yaw value to rlly high
mouse1 = +attack1; m_yaw 0.022 - shoots the gun & resets value to default

I'm probably not going to get unbanned for this since it's been so long + the cs:go m_yaw ban requires wayyyy more effort to get you in trouble than cs2 but it's worth a shot and asking you guys if you also got turned upside down over it. Cheers
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luistucusoxd Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:31pm 
xd
:steamhappy:
Once a cheater, always a cheater 😱😂
Grief Sep 17, 2023 @ 1:54pm 
Get rekt
かんのじゅ Sep 17, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
Sure thats why lol
suicidal.banana Sep 17, 2023 @ 2:25pm 
- Steam/VAC knows exactly "who you are", but they don't usually insta-ban for it. They do the whole 'hardware id' thing and it appears they do a much better job at it compared to most companies, because when you return they 'play dumb', while at the same time logging everything and putting you in special matchmaking pool where you will only join games with many other known previous cheaters (that also think they outsmarted the system lol) This is why the people who complain about cheats most are usually the owners of several banned accounts, every time they make the same mistake they get penalized for it even more when they return, until eventually all they get are just constant HvH games.

- You can not get banned for using clientside console commands (that are not marked as cheats) not in CS:GO and not in CS2, this was only a thing very early on in the beta of CSS, but for some reason cheaters today still try and use this as an excuse, but VAC no longer works like this, for like 10+ years now. So no, you also didn't get banned for that.

- You can get banned for people reporting that you rotated way too quickly in a VAC server, which pretty much perfectly lines up with "convicted by overwatch", what that means in simple terms is that
1) other players reported you for cheating, this then made the system save those games & have other people look at the demo files of those matches (these are literally called overwatch people, they are hand picked people who are really good at the game, that get some sort of rewards for looking at 'corner cases' of cheat reports/detections for Valve, like yours was, it probably went "well the system doesnt see cheats but a lot of users reported it, so this needs to go to overwatch")
2) overwatch people went "yep, looks like spinbot cheats, next case"
3) After a certain number of overwatch people all said that you looked like you were cheating your fate was sealed and you got a ban.

VAC bans are always final, and despite what some people like to think you simply can not escape them, even if it might look like you can, they know and just matchmake you with other cheaters.

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I actually got one of those VAC bans from messing around with the CSS beta, they straight up said they knew i was just messing around but the ban was still staying, i respected that at the time and still do, i did mess around in a VAC server to get a unfair advantage so the ban was my own fault, having done nothing wrong in decades since then means its no longer relevant and matchmaking is pretty much normal for me. So that's my advice for you, make just 1 new account and never ever cheat on a VAC server again, eventually its gonna be fine.
Yes they will, i got banned on cs2 'cause yaw bind.
chudbert Sep 18, 2023 @ 8:27am 
Originally posted by suicidal.banana:
- Steam/VAC knows exactly "who you are", but they don't usually insta-ban for it. They do the whole 'hardware id' thing and it appears they do a much better job at it compared to most companies, because when you return they 'play dumb', while at the same time logging everything and putting you in special matchmaking pool where you will only join games with many other known previous cheaters (that also think they outsmarted the system lol) This is why the people who complain about cheats most are usually the owners of several banned accounts, every time they make the same mistake they get penalized for it even more when they return, until eventually all they get are just constant HvH games.

- You can not get banned for using clientside console commands (that are not marked as cheats) not in CS:GO and not in CS2, this was only a thing very early on in the beta of CSS, but for some reason cheaters today still try and use this as an excuse, but VAC no longer works like this, for like 10+ years now. So no, you also didn't get banned for that.

- You can get banned for people reporting that you rotated way too quickly in a VAC server, which pretty much perfectly lines up with "convicted by overwatch", what that means in simple terms is that
1) other players reported you for cheating, this then made the system save those games & have other people look at the demo files of those matches (these are literally called overwatch people, they are hand picked people who are really good at the game, that get some sort of rewards for looking at 'corner cases' of cheat reports/detections for Valve, like yours was, it probably went "well the system doesnt see cheats but a lot of users reported it, so this needs to go to overwatch")
2) overwatch people went "yep, looks like spinbot cheats, next case"
3) After a certain number of overwatch people all said that you looked like you were cheating your fate was sealed and you got a ban.

VAC bans are always final, and despite what some people like to think you simply can not escape them, even if it might look like you can, they know and just matchmake you with other cheaters.

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I actually got one of those VAC bans from messing around with the CSS beta, they straight up said they knew i was just messing around but the ban was still staying, i respected that at the time and still do, i did mess around in a VAC server to get a unfair advantage so the ban was my own fault, having done nothing wrong in decades since then means its no longer relevant and matchmaking is pretty much normal for me. So that's my advice for you, make just 1 new account and never ever cheat on a VAC server again, eventually its gonna be fine.

Thanks for your reply. It's not a VAC ban it's a Game Ban, so I'm even more screwed than just a VAC. I'm pretty sure Valve has disabled Overwatch since March so it wouldn't make sense for there to be enough people who've had an overwatch demo on the backburner for 3 months to say "yea that guy's cheating". I'm pretty sure Steam just decided to give me a phone number ban after all these years or it was the m_yaw bind. I've never had a bad trust factor either since I've rarely if not at all encountered cheaters, despite all my griefing report bans.
There's a video of a guy getting banned within an hour of using it albeit he did get an Untrusted ban instead of an Overwatch conviction.
Here's the link:https://youtu.be/Du7tmULXH04?si=FkQSD3L9u9hQYDTY
He is using it way more violently than I've ever was but I have played more matches so I guess Steam could've pieced together my abnormal movement and decided to ban me or I've been overwatched before for griefing and I guess they got enough info to convict me. I don't know because if it was griefing it should've been a 30d and not a perm from the start. Really unsure. I've learned my lesson with my 1st ban 4 years ago. I think I'll just cut my loses and just make a new account for CSGO since I doubt Steam will ever budge as much as I know they're able to unban me for a false ban. Oh well, guess I have a permanent 200 bucks laying around in my inv now.
Last edited by chudbert; Sep 18, 2023 @ 8:30am
chudbert Sep 18, 2023 @ 8:28am 
Originally posted by .:
Yes they will, i got banned on cs2 'cause yaw bind.
CS2 has a known issue with this, CSGO you need to try way harder to get banned for m_yaw.
that lie story , ''thinking someone of valve will read this and believe this lies xD xD if you dont know they see what cheat you injected n stuff , so you can tell your lie stories to mother cheating trash
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Date Posted: Sep 16, 2023 @ 12:20am
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