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TimmaX 6/set./2015 às 0:44
Filthy console peasant or Pc gaming master race
Soo here is my question if i play console and also i play pc games what it makes me then?
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deni 7/set./2015 às 0:11 
It doesn't matter, if your a console gamer, your a gamer. If your a PC gamer, your a gamer. If your both, your a gamer.


BUT if you compare the two it makes u an arrogant ♥♥♥♥
wifeburger 7/set./2015 às 0:12 
The Cult of Nintendon't just sit back and laugh at this atrocid thread.
zounce 7/set./2015 às 1:47 
Escrito originalmente por Ouchiewawa:
It doesn't matter, if your a console gamer, your a gamer. If your a PC gamer, your a gamer. If your both, your a gamer.


BUT if you compare the two it makes u an arrogant ♥♥♥♥
Console gaming is hurting the industry
deni 7/set./2015 às 4:49 
Escrito originalmente por π:
Escrito originalmente por Ouchiewawa:
It doesn't matter, if your a console gamer, your a gamer. If your a PC gamer, your a gamer. If your both, your a gamer.


BUT if you compare the two it makes u an arrogant ♥♥♥♥
Console gaming is hurting the industry
PC gaming is also hurting the consoles industry, no?
zounce 7/set./2015 às 13:23 
Escrito originalmente por Ouchiewawa:
Escrito originalmente por π:
Console gaming is hurting the industry
PC gaming is also hurting the consoles industry, no?
No, it's not.
Escrito originalmente por Evilstuff Gaming:
Escrito originalmente por Vladimir Nabokov:
What exactly makes a console better than a PC for any of the genres you listed
Better controls. Consoles are better for racing because of the control sticks so you can turn more accurately, where PC you have to press down a button and it turns at a set force. FPS because it's arguably much easier to aim with a mouse than a controller.
You always can buy a PC-usb controller
Habits 7/set./2015 às 13:27 
This is entirely based on preference. Only children, trolls, and elitists still try to debate PC vs Console. They both have their pros and cons. Leave it at that.
zounce 7/set./2015 às 13:32 
Escrito originalmente por Going On The Offensive:
This is entirely based on preference. Only children, trolls, and elitists still try to debate PC vs Console. They both have their pros and cons. Leave it at that.
No, like I said before. Console gaming is hurting the industry, there is NO REASON to support it,
Última edição por zounce; 7/set./2015 às 13:32
Habits 7/set./2015 às 13:36 
Escrito originalmente por π:
Escrito originalmente por Going On The Offensive:
This is entirely based on preference. Only children, trolls, and elitists still try to debate PC vs Console. They both have their pros and cons. Leave it at that.
No, like I said before. Console gaming is hurting the industry, there is NO REASON to support it,
Care to provide some evidence without coming off as a generic elitist?
Dr.Doom 7/set./2015 às 13:38 
Escrito originalmente por Evilstuff Gaming:
Escrito originalmente por Vladimir Nabokov:
What exactly makes a console better than a PC for any of the genres you listed
Better controls. Consoles are better for racing because of the control sticks so you can turn more accurately, where PC you have to press down a button and it turns at a set force. FPS because it's arguably much easier to aim with a mouse than a controller.

i play racing games on my pc, with my g27.
zounce 7/set./2015 às 13:39 
Escrito originalmente por Going On The Offensive:
Escrito originalmente por π:
No, like I said before. Console gaming is hurting the industry, there is NO REASON to support it,
Care to provide some evidence without coming off as a generic elitist?
Entire quote from the /r/pcmasterrace wiki guide!
"That's a great question. We (the PC gamers) love gaming and the game industry with a burning passion. Unfortunately for the industry, modern consoles are sucking it dry. No, that's not to say every console manufacturer is responsible for this, and it's also not to say the ones that are responsible are doing it all the time, but it's still harmful.

Nowadays, the console business is no longer about satisfying gamers and developers; it's about building a monopoly so they can forcefully attract and monetarily drain developers to the point where they can't afford to develop a quality game on a competing platform (hence, bad ports). It's about bribing them if they can't attract them through marketshare (paid exclusivity). It's about doing whatever it takes to lock up as many franchises as possible to your own platform so the competition has none left, which leaves you with more market share (and consequently, power). They've focused so much on killing competing platforms that they have no money left to make the consumers a product that makes them happy. You, as a gamer, should be pissed at what they're doing to you and your favorite games. If you understand this and continue to defend what they're doing simply because of brand loyalty, you really need to reconsider your reasoning. Consoles take away WAY more than they give, and that's all the justification anyone should ever need when they try showing someone better alternatives.

Consoles hurt all of the following: PC gamers, console gamers, and game creators.

Consoles help all of the following: The manufacturers that created and fiercely market them, developers that were purchased by a console manufacturer, and "journalists" that side with them. That's it.

In comparison: PC helps all of the following:

Hardware manufacturers (Asus, AMD, Gigabyte, XFX, EVGA, Intel, Seagate, etc)
Software companies (Unity Technologies, Adobe, Mozilla, CD Projekt Red, Google, Dropbox)
Game creators (Blizzard, Gearbox Software, Crytek, Valve, CD Projekt Red, id Software, Rockstar, Devolver Digital)
PC gamers
Console gamers (by giving console manufacturers a standard to aspire for, unfortunately they just use marketing to justify shooting for the bottom of the bin)
and finally, PC hurts all of the following:

Profit margins of console manufacturers
Developers that signed away their rights or entire existence over to console manufacturers
"Journalists" that rely on pro-console and anti-PC FUD to pay their bills [1]
It's a well thought-out systematic scam that's hurting everyone, including you. Consoles are no longer a 'cool and innovative' thing that developers intentionally choose based on compatibility with their artistic vision (as was the case in the 1980s-1990s before the 'new age' of PC graphics). They're something developers have to work with and water their games down to be compatible with (because they're either a subsidiary of Sony or Microsoft, or they have no other choice), something that many gamers have to buy (because of marketing lies and forced/bribed exclusivity), and that PC gamers have to deal with (because so many people got tricked into buying them and developers prioritize that large and weak-hardwared demographic over the PC). Sony and Microsoft entered the turf of the PC gamer when they attacked our games, our developers, and our industry. Console manufacturers aren't your friends. They're made by conglomerates that know nothing of the game industry and see nothing more than a cash cow when they look at gamers. They don't care about giving you good hardware, good games, or good experiences. They care about making the industry THEIRS and locking everyone in to their deadly cycle and they'll put out any marketing lies they need to to get people to fight for them (they know the psychology, and they know they have the power to trick people into defending them). So, if you care about the game industry and innovation, understand this: They're draining the industry dry and putting their "dirty money" in absolutely no places that benefit you or the industry. A world of gaming without consoles holding it back would be an amazing one. The next time you see someone arguing against consoles, just remember this before you confront them: Sony and Microsoft picked the fight, not us.

Here's an amazing quote from /u/MangoTangoFox that helps explain this section:

It can never be this way because literally all of the platforms except PC are owned by single companies who created said platform(s) primarily to act as middlemen. Every choice made is done to make the most money, and that includes buying up whole game studios and timed/permanent exclusivity of games and services in order to make their's more appealing than the others. PC isn't even vaguely similar because of the fragmentation of manufacturers, service providers, and creators, allows considerable freedom of choice for the consumer, and doesn't really allow or call for paid exclusivity of certain titles.

If you think of the characters as the companies who own them, all the consoles despise each-other and would do anything to win any competition between them. If you think of them as the consumers that play them, everyone making a different choice forces exclusivity and anyone not wealthy enough to own all platforms and all the games they want, is getting screwed by that system. You can appreciate people who have similar interests, but it's hard to just say "let's all just have fun" when 1. you literally cannot with huge numbers of people because of lack of cross platform multiplayer, and 2. people supporting other platforms allows their greedy existence in the first place, which lessens your own experience as a result because of wasted dev time and paid exclusivity. And even if you own all of them, you still get screwed because the most competent, versatile, and potentially powerful platform you own isn't getting dozens of games you want, and many of the ones it does get aren't anywhere near as amazing as they could have been if the other lesser platforms didn't have so much market/mind-share. So with all the platforms, most of the games that aren't PC exclusive out of necessity in the first place, are likely lesser than they could have been.
Here's another, from /u/snaynay

Consoles are bleeding this dry, especially in the big-budget gaming department. Ultimately what happens is hoards of kids put up a brick wall of ignorance and stupidity over a lack of a long-term gaming background, defend consoles, accept ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and let console manufactures and their associated developers castrate this industry.

Its not wrong to own or prefer consoles. I thoroughly understand demographics. Hell, the notion of choice is what PC gamers live by. What I care about is this social engineering and phenomena to systematically reject the that PC platform that is the beating heart of the gaming industry. Its not competing with their precious little gaming boxes, its their support. Kids today are actively segregating their big-money AAA gaming as a separate entity to the open gaming scene found on PC."
Habits 7/set./2015 às 13:44 
Escrito originalmente por π:
Escrito originalmente por Going On The Offensive:
Care to provide some evidence without coming off as a generic elitist?
Entire quote from the /r/pcmasterrace wiki guide!
"That's a great question. We (the PC gamers) love gaming and the game industry with a burning passion. Unfortunately for the industry, modern consoles are sucking it dry. No, that's not to say every console manufacturer is responsible for this, and it's also not to say the ones that are responsible are doing it all the time, but it's still harmful.

Nowadays, the console business is no longer about satisfying gamers and developers; it's about building a monopoly so they can forcefully attract and monetarily drain developers to the point where they can't afford to develop a quality game on a competing platform (hence, bad ports). It's about bribing them if they can't attract them through marketshare (paid exclusivity). It's about doing whatever it takes to lock up as many franchises as possible to your own platform so the competition has none left, which leaves you with more market share (and consequently, power). They've focused so much on killing competing platforms that they have no money left to make the consumers a product that makes them happy. You, as a gamer, should be pissed at what they're doing to you and your favorite games. If you understand this and continue to defend what they're doing simply because of brand loyalty, you really need to reconsider your reasoning. Consoles take away WAY more than they give, and that's all the justification anyone should ever need when they try showing someone better alternatives.

Consoles hurt all of the following: PC gamers, console gamers, and game creators.

Consoles help all of the following: The manufacturers that created and fiercely market them, developers that were purchased by a console manufacturer, and "journalists" that side with them. That's it.

In comparison: PC helps all of the following:

Hardware manufacturers (Asus, AMD, Gigabyte, XFX, EVGA, Intel, Seagate, etc)
Software companies (Unity Technologies, Adobe, Mozilla, CD Projekt Red, Google, Dropbox)
Game creators (Blizzard, Gearbox Software, Crytek, Valve, CD Projekt Red, id Software, Rockstar, Devolver Digital)
PC gamers
Console gamers (by giving console manufacturers a standard to aspire for, unfortunately they just use marketing to justify shooting for the bottom of the bin)
and finally, PC hurts all of the following:

Profit margins of console manufacturers
Developers that signed away their rights or entire existence over to console manufacturers
"Journalists" that rely on pro-console and anti-PC FUD to pay their bills [1]
It's a well thought-out systematic scam that's hurting everyone, including you. Consoles are no longer a 'cool and innovative' thing that developers intentionally choose based on compatibility with their artistic vision (as was the case in the 1980s-1990s before the 'new age' of PC graphics). They're something developers have to work with and water their games down to be compatible with (because they're either a subsidiary of Sony or Microsoft, or they have no other choice), something that many gamers have to buy (because of marketing lies and forced/bribed exclusivity), and that PC gamers have to deal with (because so many people got tricked into buying them and developers prioritize that large and weak-hardwared demographic over the PC). Sony and Microsoft entered the turf of the PC gamer when they attacked our games, our developers, and our industry. Console manufacturers aren't your friends. They're made by conglomerates that know nothing of the game industry and see nothing more than a cash cow when they look at gamers. They don't care about giving you good hardware, good games, or good experiences. They care about making the industry THEIRS and locking everyone in to their deadly cycle and they'll put out any marketing lies they need to to get people to fight for them (they know the psychology, and they know they have the power to trick people into defending them). So, if you care about the game industry and innovation, understand this: They're draining the industry dry and putting their "dirty money" in absolutely no places that benefit you or the industry. A world of gaming without consoles holding it back would be an amazing one. The next time you see someone arguing against consoles, just remember this before you confront them: Sony and Microsoft picked the fight, not us.

Here's an amazing quote from /u/MangoTangoFox that helps explain this section:

It can never be this way because literally all of the platforms except PC are owned by single companies who created said platform(s) primarily to act as middlemen. Every choice made is done to make the most money, and that includes buying up whole game studios and timed/permanent exclusivity of games and services in order to make their's more appealing than the others. PC isn't even vaguely similar because of the fragmentation of manufacturers, service providers, and creators, allows considerable freedom of choice for the consumer, and doesn't really allow or call for paid exclusivity of certain titles.

If you think of the characters as the companies who own them, all the consoles despise each-other and would do anything to win any competition between them. If you think of them as the consumers that play them, everyone making a different choice forces exclusivity and anyone not wealthy enough to own all platforms and all the games they want, is getting screwed by that system. You can appreciate people who have similar interests, but it's hard to just say "let's all just have fun" when 1. you literally cannot with huge numbers of people because of lack of cross platform multiplayer, and 2. people supporting other platforms allows their greedy existence in the first place, which lessens your own experience as a result because of wasted dev time and paid exclusivity. And even if you own all of them, you still get screwed because the most competent, versatile, and potentially powerful platform you own isn't getting dozens of games you want, and many of the ones it does get aren't anywhere near as amazing as they could have been if the other lesser platforms didn't have so much market/mind-share. So with all the platforms, most of the games that aren't PC exclusive out of necessity in the first place, are likely lesser than they could have been.
Here's another, from /u/snaynay

Consoles are bleeding this dry, especially in the big-budget gaming department. Ultimately what happens is hoards of kids put up a brick wall of ignorance and stupidity over a lack of a long-term gaming background, defend consoles, accept ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and let console manufactures and their associated developers castrate this industry.

Its not wrong to own or prefer consoles. I thoroughly understand demographics. Hell, the notion of choice is what PC gamers live by. What I care about is this social engineering and phenomena to systematically reject the that PC platform that is the beating heart of the gaming industry. Its not competing with their precious little gaming boxes, its their support. Kids today are actively segregating their big-money AAA gaming as a separate entity to the open gaming scene found on PC."
Fair enough.
Habits 7/set./2015 às 13:46 
P.S. PI, thanks for the anime sucks (I agree) group invite, but I'm on a mission to make my profile as cringe worthy as possible.
Última edição por Habits; 7/set./2015 às 13:47
zounce 7/set./2015 às 13:47 
Escrito originalmente por Going On The Offensive:
P.S. PI, thanks for the anime sucks (I agree) group invite, but I'm on a mission to make my profile as cringe worthy as possible.
Oh good because it gave me cancer
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Habits 7/set./2015 às 13:48 
Escrito originalmente por π:
Escrito originalmente por Going On The Offensive:
P.S. PI, thanks for the anime sucks (I agree) group invite, but I'm on a mission to make my profile as cringe worthy as possible.
Oh good because it gave me cancer
Yeah, my info box pretty much makes it obvious.
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