False VAC Bans Do Happen, and It's Always Covered Up...

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I'd like to start this off by saying this is NOT a thread complaining about how I was ban, but how It was modified multiple times by the moderators of CS:GO, without an explaination, and to something COMPLETELY and UTTERLY stupid, as a way to cover up their mistakes.

Hello everyone!
My name is Dank Bear, and I've been ban falsely. About 9 days ago I was playing with some old friends who I recently found out played CS:GO and were DMG. I started playing with them about two or three days prior to my ban, where we had talked for hours on end about numerous things, one of these things obviously was CS:GO and our ranks and how some of us have and still are digging ourselves out of the low ranks. I am currently GN4 from my placement on my new account and believe myself to be a very good player. Although I cannot carry entire games so I can rank up, I do believe I can face off against LE's considering I have played 1v1s before with LEM and done pretty well. It was last friday when me and my friend had played, where I got ban about 30 minutes later.

We were playing a game of overpass when somewhere on the second or third realm I had peaked as the last person and one-tapped the last enemy on sight, where I smoked and preceeded to Ninja. After I had defused I had looked up to the last terrorist that was alive who had me in his sights and I freaked out and began to fire. I got TWO headshots and ended the round with a clutch. This is when the other three teammates on my team flipped their ♥♥♥♥ and began calling me a "♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥♥♥" and a "♥♥♥♥-Bag hacker" (Excuse my language), and said they were reporting me. I was in a Dolby call with my friend at the time and he told me to ignore them so I shrugged it off, since I knew overwatch would end up spectating and see I did nothing wrong. about twenty go by and my game freezes and a grey screen appears with a box saying "Disconnecting from Server: Unable to join *Blah blah*. I am wondering what just happend and I go to reconnect but as I click the yellow button it says I cannot join and thats when I see the long bar across the top of my screen saying I have been VAC Ban. I myself began to lose it asking my friend what happen, what to do, and how to fix it. I had made a ticket (Which has been posted in my profile photos), explaining everything and asking questions about what happend. I had finished writing and began to search Reddit (My favorite site ever) on /r/Csgo. I found it immedietly, the top rated post of all time, Yes false VAC bans do happen. My ban was lifted. (linked at bottom), and posted that as a extra comment on my ticket. I go through the night and before I go to sleep I posted another reply out of anger and sorrow for my account which I have just recently began to get good rep for trading in, got ban. To this day I have yet to hear back on my ticket with no reply whatsoever, and don't believe I will any time soon. This is where everything falls apart.

If you have taken the time to go review my profile yet and the pictures I've posted you will see It is no longer a VAC ban which was originally displayed on the top of my screen but now a Overwatch ban for being "Majorly Disruptive". I believed this was complete bull considering Prior to that (I am sorry for the lack of picture evidence), It had been change to Violation Cooldown - CS:Go community convinced you for cheating. (and Had no timer).

So really this was not to rant about how I am not a cheater or how I should be unban, but as reminder to the CS:GO community that these bans sometimes are false, and they do get uplifted or changed, and when they do they make sure they have an excuse and no one hears about it which is ridicoulus because any can make a post like me strait to the CS:GO forms. If anyone here doesn't believe me or feels as if they need more proof, I have nothing but rationallity. The primary rule enforced by ANY game that is valve protected is:
"All VAC bans are permanent - Valve has a zero-tolerance policy for cheating and will not lift VAC bans on request."

If all VAC bans are permanet, why was I unVACed? Why was my ban switched three times?
If you have a similar problem and you honestly didn't use any form of cheat and you have been VAC ban or Overwatch ban feel free to leave your experience and time dealing with it in the comments. If you're some lying troll using my post as leverage and you know you used some form of cheat (Which Is pretty trashy), then know I'll remove your comments. This is meant to be a serious discussion and possiblely a way for me to get in touch with a community moderator about whats going on. Happy AwpMas!

TL;DR: I was VAC ban falsely even though the system didn't detect anything, The moderators saw it, changed my ban multiple times, Wont reply, kinda fishy.

.https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/2cm34j/yes_false_vac_bans_do_happen_my_ban_was_lifted/

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SevenDEF a écrit :

Dank Bear shut up

Rude and Unrelated comments without serious dicussion will be reported and removed. Thank you for your comment.

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Grizzledorf a écrit :

Dank Bear a écrit :

If you actually read what I wrote you would see other wise. I was in the game and after I had made the clutch play they had all reported me, and I continued to play for over twenty minutes until I was kicked mid game. I remember clearly I was 10/11 before I had been disconnected so apparently my one good play got me reported and banned.

read the faq thats not how it works. the case OW saw couldnt of been the match u were actively in. it could of been from a match like days prior to the ban.

you wont get anywhere with this discussion i suggest you launch the game up take a steam screenshot that shows your overwatch majorly disruptive ban. if some how it gets removed which would prove it was false come back and show it just make sure the pic showing you were banned is still in y our steam screenshots.

till you can show proof it is removed you are considered a cheater who got caught.

I will take a picture if and when I get unban. If you read the reddit post NinjaSakk says the same thing. He was ban falsely and after he had taken the time and finally gotten unVACed they never released to him an offical/unoffical statement as to what happend and why he was both ban and unban.

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SevenDEF a écrit :

Dank Bear shut up

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To try and clarify:

I was "VAC" banned, which are indisputable and will not be removed or changed at all.

Regardless of the supposed offical stream rules, my VAC ban WAS CHANGED to a overwatch ban. (So I was "VAC" banned by a moderator, and it had been changed to a Vio Ban)

After that the Violation ban had been changed to a OW - Majorly Disruptive ban.

[Grizzledorf]

Dank Bear a écrit :

Grizzledorf a écrit :

read the faq thats not how it works. the case OW saw couldnt of been the match u were actively in. it could of been from a match like days prior to the ban.

you wont get anywhere with this discussion i suggest you launch the game up take a steam screenshot that shows your overwatch majorly disruptive ban. if some how it gets removed which would prove it was false come back and show it just make sure the pic showing you were banned is still in y our steam screenshots.

till you can show proof it is removed you are considered a cheater who got caught.

I will take a picture if and when I get unban. If you read the reddit post NinjaSakk says the same thing. He was ban falsely and after he had taken the time and finally gotten unVACed they never released to him an offical/unoffical statement as to what happend and why he was both ban and unban.

you are in a unrelated situation you were banned by overwatch. also his story could be made up.

overwatch is not the same as vac.

well have a good day/night/morning

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are you sure you were vac banned? nothing comes up at vacbanned.com. it is able to show when a player got a vac ban and/or removed.

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rand0m.sh0ts a écrit :

are you sure you were vac banned? nothing comes up at vacbanned.com. it is able to show when a player got a vac ban and/or removed.

im pretty sure he thought he was vac banned because when he tried joining MM it gave the vac banned pop up message. people who have griefing bans have mentioned being confused because they get the vac ban message when trying to join mm so i assume it must also happen to people who are OW banned for cheating

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rand0m.sh0ts a écrit :

are you sure you were vac banned? nothing comes up at vacbanned.com. it is able to show when a player got a vac ban and/or removed.

If you're VAC ban you cannot be unban or changed by any means. The thing I am trying to highlight is that I "WAS" unVAC banned, but it was "CHANGED" to a VIO Ban, then a OW Ban.

This means the moderators openly went against the rules about unbanning or changing VACs.
I dont know about that site you linked but its possible that it doesnt show since it was not unban but changed to a different type of ban.

Also everyone should read the offical VAC Ban page on steam. They clarify that these mods and admins "CAN MANUALLY VAC BAN".

This is another important point, I joined that lobby, played those rounds, and never got ban by the system, but by a mod who had, because if it was the VAC system doing it automatically from detecting a cheat, i would have joined and would have been kicked instantly.

[={Tiger}= (AKA Gunman)]

Well this is interesting, I thought VAC can only be applied by file reading from ur computer for cheats and now I'm hearing OW can apply VAC bans. Valve should really reconsider a review before the VAC can be applied instead of OW just putting bans and then u have to prove ur innoncence. This sound very screwed up

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Grizzledorf a écrit :

rand0m.sh0ts a écrit :

are you sure you were vac banned? nothing comes up at vacbanned.com. it is able to show when a player got a vac ban and/or removed.

im pretty sure he thought he was vac banned because when he tried joining MM it gave the vac banned pop up message. people who have griefing bans have mentioned being confused because they get the vac ban message when trying to join mm so i assume it must also happen to people who are OW banned for cheating

Although it doesn't do much the friend in my lobby and many others who had messaged me after seeing my "recent activity" post about being ban all saw the marker that said "VAC" banned next to my profile. The fact is im no longer "VAC" banned but now overwatch ban. Valve had in any case went against there own strict policy on VAC bans by changing/removing my ban and turning it to a Vio, and then a OW

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={Gunman}= a écrit :

Well this is interesting, I thought VAC can only be applied by file reading from ur computer for cheats and now I'm hearing OW can apply VAC bans. Valve should really reconsider a review before the VAC can be applied instead of OW just putting bans and then u have to prove ur innoncence. This sound very screwed up

EXACTLY! The only time this is changed is when a Offical admin/mod, does a manual ban. This is stated in this thread. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-Radz-6869

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={Gunman}= a écrit :

Well this is interesting, I thought VAC can only be applied by file reading from ur computer for cheats and now I'm hearing OW can apply VAC bans. Valve should really reconsider a review before the VAC can be applied instead of OW just putting bans and then u have to prove ur innoncence. This sound very screwed up

Well case invesigators which can be the average player are OW members. This doesn't mean they are exactly admins/mods of valve but I'm guessing in any case it was a high ranking OW member with more correct convictions who had ban me. so it is most likely he had been an admin. Again I have lack of pictures besides the ticket, and my files from moments before.

[AnnieO]

You don't understand, Overwatch bans are delayed for a reason. This Game Ban could have been decided over a week before you got that ban itself. They delay the decisions so the ones getting the ban cannot tell which cheat got them banned in the first place.

When you get reported it takes awhile for Overwatchers to see the demo then the decision is given to put a Game Ban on your account. It is not instantaneous as you seem to think it is. You do not know which of your games were reviewed to cause the Game Ban at all and you think it was because of one game when it could have been caused by a game you played the week before.

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Dank Bear a écrit :

={Gunman}= a écrit :

Well this is interesting, I thought VAC can only be applied by file reading from ur computer for cheats and now I'm hearing OW can apply VAC bans. Valve should really reconsider a review before the VAC can be applied instead of OW just putting bans and then u have to prove ur innoncence. This sound very screwed up

EXACTLY! The only time this is changed is when a Offical admin/mod, does a manual ban. This is stated in this thread. https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=7849-Radz-6869

i think u need to re read:

"While server admins may choose to ban specific players, server admins cannot VAC ban players."

when it talks about server admins its talkin about community servers ect.. not valve servers

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AnnieO a écrit :

You don't understand, Overwatch bans are delayed for a reason. This Game Ban could have been decided over a week before you got that ban itself. They delay the decisions so the ones getting the ban cannot tell which cheat got them banned in the first place.

When you get reported it takes awhile for Overwatchers to see the demo then the decision is given to put a Game Ban on your account. It is not instantaneous as you seem to think it is. You do not know which of your games were reviewed to cause the Game Ban at all and you think it was because of one game when it could have been caused by a game you played the week before.

The time frame wouldn't match up. I had never had a complain against me that I can ever recall in the last however long. I was called a hacker by my three teammates alone, and ban that same match. Although that is a good and very well thought way of looking at this, I don't believe this is the case. Also If i was reviewed for a week I wouldn't have been ban because they wouldn't have seen any form of cheats because I dont. Again very little anything or anyone can do to prove these things when they say they dont cheat or they are falsely ban. I can just provide logic and basic images.