The joys of csgo

[Hiro]

Just played 2 games, both with at least 8 Ru players.
In both was forced to mute the team.

Probably they spoke with each other and reported me (in my opinion those are false reports).

Now I got 8 days cooldown for grefing?
They were blocking me, killing me and I was there playing my game.

FFS Valve, fix the report system.
Get some of the money you make on skins and fix this crap system, instead of releasing crap operations.

[temper]

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Publicado originalmente por temper:

If you have skins then why would you even bother bringing up the fact that him having skins is somehow a bad thing? Or do you mean you have the free 3 cent skins you get from drops? In that case it doesn't even make sense to mention you have skins since you're trying to imply you're not jealous and trying to put yourself on equal footing with him.

Every time I've seen you on this forum you've always been butthurt and complaining about something. You would think someone who doesn't like a certain game would stop playing it, yet you're back here and seething in a brand new thread every other week. If you don't like the game then stop playing it, simple as.

You have no right to tell others what they should or shouldn't do with their money. One could even make the argument that you're helping support the state of the game by playing it because you're boosting the player count (which companies take into account when wanting to sponsor events/tournaments). You could also make a similar argument about spending any money on steam at all.

Yes, most of my skins are low on value.
All of them are stat-track, but I did not spend money on them.

Maybe you don't know how the game market works.
Every time you trade something 30% of the transaction goes to Valve, more you trade, more they get.

Playing the game boost the player number, sure, but they are after the wales like our friend here.
People that spend a huge amount of money, and they get 30% of this amount (simple maths)

I just don't understand your mind set, if the games do better then your money (the one you invested on the game to buy skins) will have more value.
If the game dies then you lose all your investment.

I'm not trying to tell people what they should or not do, I'm trying to keep a game I like alive and well.

You're telling me you don't know how the game market works while proving you're actually the one who doesn't know anything.

Valve doesn't get anything from steam trades, they only get a cut when you sell something on the market.

Sponsors don't look at whales either, they look at player count (which you're contributing to, so congratulations).

You also don't need to do anything to keep the game alive and well lol. I'm sure a billion dollar company that has been involved with counter strike and gaming for more than 2 decades knows way more than some random guy on the forum.

[Hiro]

Publicado originalmente por temper:

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

If you have a PUBLIC profile it is for people to see.



Your account is 3 years old, you must have traded to get those skins.
About the anime, you literally have Goku in your profile, which is an anime in case you don't know.

You are losing your mind, try to keep this discussion on a high level, please.

You said this wasn't your primary account while failing to realize that other people can have alternate steam accounts as well. That's not his main account, and he's been playing counter strike since 1.5

If you can look at his skins, you can check his profile description too. Even if his account was 3 years old, that's more than enough time to save up some cash and buy skins (unless you're living in some third world country making 10 cents an hour).

Again the free attacks, you guys just can't keep a high level discussion.
Just who do you think you are?

Do I need to feed this micro transaction s*it?

I also play since 1.5 / 1.6 (well, since CS was a half-life mode actually).
Do I need to have wasted tons off money in cosmetic stuff ?

Or can I just give a high value to my time and money?

[I'm Goated____!Pray for Paris!]

Publicado originalmente por temper:

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Yes, most of my skins are low on value.
All of them are stat-track, but I did not spend money on them.

Maybe you don't know how the game market works.
Every time you trade something 30% of the transaction goes to Valve, more you trade, more they get.

Playing the game boost the player number, sure, but they are after the wales like our friend here.
People that spend a huge amount of money, and they get 30% of this amount (simple maths)

I just don't understand your mind set, if the games do better then your money (the one you invested on the game to buy skins) will have more value.
If the game dies then you lose all your investment.

I'm not trying to tell people what they should or not do, I'm trying to keep a game I like alive and well.

You're telling me you don't know how the game market works while proving you're actually the one who doesn't know anything.

Valve doesn't get anything from steam trades, they only get a cut when you sell something on the market.

Sponsors don't look at whales either, they look at player count (which you're contributing to, so congratulations lol).

You also don't need to do anything to keep the game alive and well lol. I'm sure a billion dollar company that has been involved with counter strike and gaming for more than 2 decades knows way more than some random guy on the forum.

You are wrong. A random guy that installed steam 1 Minute ago and thinks epic games is better cuz they give free games knows everything better

[I'm Goated____!Pray for Paris!]

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Publicado originalmente por temper:

You said this wasn't your primary account while failing to realize that other people can have alternate steam accounts as well. That's not his main account, and he's been playing counter strike since 1.5

If you can look at his skins, you can check his profile description too. Even if his account was 3 years old, that's more than enough time to save up some cash and buy skins (unless you're living in some third world country making 10 cents an hour).

Again the free attacks, you guys just can't keep a high level discussion.
Just who do you think you are?

Do I need to feed this micro transaction s*it?

I also play since 1.5 / 1.6 (well, since CS was a half-life mode actually).
Do I need to have wasted tons off money in cosmetic stuff ?

Or can I just give a high value to my time and money?

Biggest lie i have seen

[temper]

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Publicado originalmente por temper:

You said this wasn't your primary account while failing to realize that other people can have alternate steam accounts as well. That's not his main account, and he's been playing counter strike since 1.5

If you can look at his skins, you can check his profile description too. Even if his account was 3 years old, that's more than enough time to save up some cash and buy skins (unless you're living in some third world country making 10 cents an hour).

Again the free attacks, you guys just can't keep a high level discussion.
Just who do you think you are?

Do I need to feed this micro transaction s*it?

I also play since 1.5 / 1.6 (well, since CS was a half-life mode actually).
Do I need to have wasted tons off money in cosmetic stuff ?

Or can I just give a high value to my time and money?

You bring up other people's profiles and then hide behind your "attack" defense even though no one is attacking you. They're just attacking your poor arguments.

No, you don't need to spend money. That doesn't mean that others can't spend money. What value you assign to your money is not the same that other people assign to their money. How do you expect to have a high level discussion when you can't grasp simple concepts that any adult would know about?

[Hiro]

Publicado originalmente por temper:

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Again the free attacks, you guys just can't keep a high level discussion.
Just who do you think you are?

Do I need to feed this micro transaction s*it?

I also play since 1.5 / 1.6 (well, since CS was a half-life mode actually).
Do I need to have wasted tons off money in cosmetic stuff ?

Or can I just give a high value to my time and money?

You bring up other people's profiles and then hide behind your "attack" defense even though no one is attacking you. They're just attacking your poor argument.

No, you don't need to spend money. That doesn't mean that others can't spend money. What value you assign to your money is not the same that other people assign to their money. How do you expect to have a high level discussion when you can't grasp simple concepts that any adult would know about?

You literally said "... that's more than enough time to save up some cash and buy skins (unless you're living in some third world country making 10 cents an hour). ..."

Which implies that either I need to buy tons of stuff or I make 10 cents an hour, how is this not an attack?

I don't care how much people spend, but they can't deny that making the market work will make the investors happy.
They will look on the player count but will look closer to the balance at the end of the trimester.
Why do you think CS:GO became free to play?

[temper]

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Publicado originalmente por temper:

You bring up other people's profiles and then hide behind your "attack" defense even though no one is attacking you. They're just attacking your poor argument.

No, you don't need to spend money. That doesn't mean that others can't spend money. What value you assign to your money is not the same that other people assign to their money. How do you expect to have a high level discussion when you can't grasp simple concepts that any adult would know about?

You literally said "... that's more than enough time to save up some cash and buy skins (unless you're living in some third world country making 10 cents an hour). ..."

Which implies that either I need to buy tons of stuff or I make 10 cents an hour, how is this not an attack?

I don't care how much people spend, but they can't deny that making the market work will make the investors happy.
They will look on the player count but will look closer to the balance at the end of the trimester.
Why do you think CS:GO became free to play?

No, I just said that 3 years is more than enough time unless you're living in a third world country. I didn't mention anything about you specifically being from a third world country. I live in the first world and don't have much of an interest in skins either. The most expensive skin I have is 30-40 cents and I've been playing csgo from close to around release date.

The game became f2p because it brings in more players which in turn also brings in more money. It's a business after all, they want to make a profit. I'm not sure what investors you're talking about since Valve is a private company. They don't even make most of their money from csgo. They make it from the steam store since it's the most popular game platform on the most popular medium to play games and they take a 30% cut from all game sales.

[Hamsterpeek]

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

If you have a PUBLIC profile it is for people to see.

So weird. When my profile is friends only people call me out for having it private, when my profile is public people use it to search for negative things.

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Your account is 3 years old, you must have traded to get those skins.

That doesn't even make remotely sense. I can create a account just right now and buy any skin I want. Imagine some people have enough money to do so. The skins I own are those I like and are not ridicliously overpriced like the Dragon Lore (I already own a swift spectral tiger in WoW, worth 13.000 euro and also a ton of pokemon cards, worth 10.000+ euro from back when I collected them as a teenager in ~2000)so I got my dreamloadouts. Yes, loadout-S becacuse I have multiple accounts and have one loadout on all accs.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/RaimaNd
https://steamcommunity.com/id/RaimaNdyt
https://steamcommunity.com/id/RaimaNdtv
(two more loadouts on other accs which aren't that crazy).
I've paid 1300 euro for my skins over the past 5 years as you can check on csgobackpack net yourself (Link: raimand) and I could even sell those skins now for 2200 euro, which I don't do since I don't need that money and I like my skins as they are and since I play CS since 1999 and don't plan to stop playing until I die I have no issue owning these skins for the next years and maybe decades.

Also you can check the account age and inventory but not the links in the description, meaning you clearly only search for possible weakpoints to have an argument against me even tho it doesn't make any sense at all.

All you do since I've posted my first post was that you blamed me for no reason. You actively want flamewars and search and provoke them and you wonder why you're banned? Lol.

Btw. my main team just had birthday and got 20 years old:
https://play.eslgaming.com/team/271153
24.04.02
And that was just the main team (not the league teams), I build that team in 2001.

So yeah, only 3 years old steam acc hurr durr.

Thread btw. got bumped because temper posted and thus I got a notification.

[Hiro]

Publicado originalmente por temper:

No, I just said that 3 years is more than enough time unless you're living in a third world country. I didn't mention anything about you specifically being from a third world country. I live in the first world and don't have much of an interest in skins either. The most expensive skin I have is 30-40 cents and I've been playing csgo from close to around release date.

Maybe that is what you wanted to say.
What you did say was totally different.

Publicado originalmente por temper:

The game became f2p because it brings in more players which in turn also brings in more money. It's a business after all, they want to make a profit. I'm not sure what investors you're talking about since Valve is a private company. They don't even make most of their money from csgo. They make it from the steam store since it's the most popular game platform on the most popular medium to play games and they take a 30% cut from all game sales.

CS:GO may not be were they make most of their money, but It plays a huge part on it,
since they reverted the decision when the game went free to play requiring, later, a "Prime pass".
Indeed, "f2p" bring more players, but they wan't those players to spend money somehow, which is fair I just wish to have a good game with a market attached in return :), not a market with a game attached...

[Hiro]

Publicado originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

So weird. When my profile is friends only people call me out for having it private, when my profile is public people use it to search for negative things.

Life is a bit*h, welcome to the internet.

Publicado originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

That doesn't even make remotely sense. I can create a account just right now and buy any skin I want. Imagine some people have enough money to do so. The skins I own are those I like and are not ridicliously overpriced like the Dragon Lore (I already own a swift spectral tiger in WoW, worth 13.000 euro and also a ton of pokemon cards, worth 10.000+ euro from back when I collected them as a teenager in ~2000)so I got my dreamloadouts. Yes, loadout-S becacuse I have multiple accounts and have one loadout on all accs.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/RaimaNd
https://steamcommunity.com/id/RaimaNdyt
https://steamcommunity.com/id/RaimaNdtv
(two more loadouts on other accs which aren't that crazy).
I've paid 1300 euro for my skins over the past 5 years as you can check on csgobackpack net yourself (Link: raimand) and I could even sell those skins now for 2200 euro, which I don't do since I don't need that money and I like my skins as they are and since I play CS since 1999 and don't plan to stop playing until I die I have no issue owning these skins for the next years and maybe decades.

Also you can check the account age and inventory but not the links in the description, meaning you clearly only search for possible weakpoints to have an argument against me even tho it doesn't make any sense at all.

All you do since I've posted my first post was that you blamed me for no reason. You actively want flamewars and search and provoke them and you wonder why you're banned? Lol.

Btw. my main team just had birthday and got 20 years old:
https://play.eslgaming.com/team/271153
24.04.02
And that was just the main team (not the league teams), I build that team in 2001.

So yeah, only 3 years old steam acc hurr durr.

Thread btw. got bumped because temper posted and thus I got a notification.

Hold on.
I'm not your account manager.
You spent this much money on the game, it is on your interest that it continues for as long as possible :) or you will lose your "investment"...

As you say, (for example) you have tons of pokemon cards, if there is no one to buy you don't really have something worth 10.000+ euros.

Same with CS:GO, if it ends you will have wasted all this money.

Yes, I'm going to blame you, not only you, but people that only seek to have status based on "skins" because I have seem it destroy so many games and as I said before I like this game and I don't like where it is going.

[Hamsterpeek]

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

You spent this much money on the game, it is on your interest that it continues for as long as possible :) or you will lose your "investment"...

It's not an investment. If skins wouldn't be worth a penny tomorrow I wouldn't care. Nearly all people also buy their dream car knowing that it will decrease in value very fast.

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

As you say, (for example) you have tons of pokemon cards, if there is no one to buy you don't really have something worth 10.000+ euros.

Which also isn't an issue. I've collected them in 2000~ because it was fun, I made poorly made copies of them to play so my original cards don't get any scratches and few years ago I saw news about pokemon cards and their value, I went to my parents basement and searched my cards and found all sorts of first edition cards with 10/10 quality. I don't want to sell it.

I also have multiple gaming PCs. My main gaming PC is worth 3500 euro, my second gaming PC 1500, my third 1000 and so fourth. I could make money off of it aswell but don't bother because the value is less important but the use of it has more value for me.

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Same with CS:GO, if it ends you will have wasted all this money.

As I said. I don't care. I have the skins, I like the skins, I own the skins and I'll keep using the skins. The only things gaining worth are properties and other stuff. Everything else when buying knowingly decreases (at some point). If I buy myself a 70k euro car now it will only be worth half of it in 2-3 years.

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Yes, I'm going to blame you, not only you, but people that only seek to have status based on "skins" because I have seem it destroy so many games and as I said before I like this game and I don't like where it is going.

Again toxic biased opinion. I don't own these things as a status value. I own these things because I like and enjoy them.

People own properties, have hundredthousands or even millions of euro. Do you really think some thousands euro csgo skins are some sort of "status"? Lol.

The game is going nowhere negatively. Pro scene is rising, interest growing, little things get fixed. The amount of negative threads in the past few days is incredible high and make no sense, seems like you got in- and affected by them.

If I had more time to play I'd even enjoy better environments like faceit but I only play every couple of days and spend the rest of the time watching pro games, demos or keep my utility usage etc. on an okayish level. But I even enjoy the least best competitive scene and just had three nice games today.
https://csgostats.gg/player/76561198875387116?type=comp&date_start=1650060000&date_end=1650146399#/matches

When you can't enjoy the game you should consider looking for something else.

[liviuit]

Publicado originalmente por 11!!MEDIC GAMING!!11:

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Yes, most of my skins are low on value.
All of them are stat-track, but I did not spend money on them.

Maybe you don't know how the game market works.
Every time you trade something 30% of the transaction goes to Valve, more you trade, more they get.

Playing the game boost the player number, sure, but they are after the wales like our friend here.
People that spend a huge amount of money, and they get 30% of this amount (simple maths)

I just don't understand your mind set, if the games do better then your money (the one you invested on the game to buy skins) will have more value.
If the game dies then you lose all your investment.

I'm not trying to tell people what they should or not do, I'm trying to keep a game I like alive and well.

Tf? Steam taxes are 12% not 30

I swear that i did not understand a thing

[Hiro]

Publicado originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

As I said. I don't care. I have the skins, I like the skins, I own the skins and I'll keep using the skins. The only things gaining worth are properties and other stuff. Everything else when buying knowingly decreases (at some point). If I buy myself a 70k euro car now it will only be worth half of it in 2-3 years.

...

If I had more time to play I'd even enjoy better environments like faceit but I only play every couple of days and spend the rest of the time watching pro games, demos or keep my utility usage etc. on an okayish level. But I even enjoy the least best competitive scene and just had three nice games today.
https://csgostats.gg/player/76561198875387116?type=comp&date_start=1650060000&date_end=1650146399#/matches

You see, we have different values for money and time.
Time in special...

Publicado originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

Again toxic biased opinion. I don't own these things as a status value. I own these things because I like and enjoy them.

People own properties, have hundredthousands or even millions of euro. Do you really think some thousands euro csgo skins are some sort of "status"? Lol.

You say that, but the first thing on your profile is your expensive knife :)
Your actions don't match with your words.

Publicado originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

The game is going nowhere negatively. Pro scene is rising, interest growing, little things get fixed. The amount of negative threads in the past few days is incredible high and make no sense, seems like you got in- and affected by them.

No so affected by the negative threads, but by the fact that I cannot play the game anymore, because some players decided that and I have no control over.
Even by using a right given to me I get punished.

If the number of negative threads is high, like you say, it must be a sign that I'm not the only person feeling that way...

Publicado originalmente por Hamsterpeek:

When you can't enjoy the game you should consider looking for something else.

I could not agree more :)
Imagine if enough people do that and the game gets into a snow ball that cannot be stopped?
Once gamers leave a game they tend to not come back (you have many examples out there, some very recent).

[temper]

Publicado originalmente por Hiro:

Publicado originalmente por temper:

No, I just said that 3 years is more than enough time unless you're living in a third world country. I didn't mention anything about you specifically being from a third world country. I live in the first world and don't have much of an interest in skins either. The most expensive skin I have is 30-40 cents and I've been playing csgo from close to around release date.

Maybe that is what you wanted to say.
What you did say was totally different.

Publicado originalmente por temper:

The game became f2p because it brings in more players which in turn also brings in more money. It's a business after all, they want to make a profit. I'm not sure what investors you're talking about since Valve is a private company. They don't even make most of their money from csgo. They make it from the steam store since it's the most popular game platform on the most popular medium to play games and they take a 30% cut from all game sales.

CS:GO may not be were they make most of their money, but It plays a huge part on it,
since they reverted the decision when the game went free to play requiring, later, a "Prime pass".
Indeed, "f2p" bring more players, but they wan't those players to spend money somehow, which is fair I just wish to have a good game with a market attached in return :), not a market with a game attached...

That's what I said, it's your interpretation that was off.

You already have a good game with a market attached. Skins did not come out until later, and they're visual only cosmetics. Your AK won't do 200% more damage if you buy a $500 skin.

[Hiro]

Publicado originalmente por 11!!MEDIC GAMING!!11:

Tf? Steam taxes are 12% not 30

Thanks for pointing that out, it is around 15%. (30% is from developers selling their games)