Premier vs Competitive balance.

[WhiteZet]

Is Premier MM more balanced than competitive, or is MM just broken in general.
Or does the game just put all "new" players in a random lobby & I have to suffer this initiation before I get to play with fellow noobs?

I played a couple days ago, but the fact that the Silver 3-GN1 enemies were Faceit level 7-10 & former Global Elites was very disheartening. Especially when on my team I think only one person seemed to know the game somewhat.

[vee]

For the first 8ish months the Competitive ranks were incredibly bugged.
Due to the hard rank reset with the cs2 release everyone was placed in the lowest ranks and it was incredibly hard to climb. This has been addressed a few months ago and I think the situation has gotten better.
However, not everyone plays Competitive mm regularly especially since the introduction of the leaderboard Premier has kinda replaced Competitive mm as the go-to game mode so you'll probably still run into some stragglers who should be ranked much higher.

I'd say Premier is much better in accurately matching you with people of your skill.

[WhiteZet]

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For the first 8ish months the Competitive ranks were incredibly bugged.
Due to the hard rank reset with the cs2 release everyone was placed in the lowest ranks and it was incredibly hard to climb. This has been addressed a few months ago and I think the situation has gotten better.
However, not everyone plays Competitive mm regularly especially since the introduction of the leaderboard Premier has kinda replaced Competitive mm as the go-to game mode so you'll probably still run into some stragglers who should be ranked much higher.

I'd say Premier is much better in accurately matching you with people of your skill.

I see. I suppose Faceit splitting the playerbase apart can't help the case either.

The reason I would prefer to play Competitive is because this game doesn't actually have a casual "competitive" mode to play & I always forget all my smokes when revisiting, so I don't wanna hop on Premier where it's probably a bit more serious (so assumably more slurs would be thrown when I just know how to walk and shoot).

But seeing the apparent skill differences between Faceit level 10's and people looking at the ground in same match is quite the experience.

[*****ysteve]

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For the first 8ish months the Competitive ranks were incredibly bugged.
Due to the hard rank reset with the cs2 release everyone was placed in the lowest ranks and it was incredibly hard to climb. This has been addressed a few months ago and I think the situation has gotten better.
However, not everyone plays Competitive mm regularly especially since the introduction of the leaderboard Premier has kinda replaced Competitive mm as the go-to game mode so you'll probably still run into some stragglers who should be ranked much higher.

I'd say Premier is much better in accurately matching you with people of your skill.

I think comp queue/wingman is still busted. We play a ton of comp queue and I am fairly decent. 7k ELO premiere. I dont think i am gold in any map lol, I am constantly crushing my lobbies too.

[生命之花]

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[vee]

I don't think many people are expecting you to know smoke lineups in Premier. Sure, they could come in handy and elevate your gameplay but while Premier might be a little less relaxed than competitive mm it is by no means anywhere close to as sweaty as Faceit.
I think you can absolutely wing it until 20k and even higher.

I think all Valve game modes are pretty casual but that's probably a matter of perspective

[WhiteZet]

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I don't think many people are expecting you to know smoke lineups in Premier. Sure, they could come in handy and elevate your gameplay but while Premier might be a little less relaxed than competitive mm it is by no means anywhere close to as sweaty as Faceit.
I think you can absolutely wing it until 20k and even higher.

I think all Valve game modes are pretty casual but that's probably a matter of perspective

I just hate not knowing any smokes. Especially maps like Nuke are suffocating & if all I'm doing is getting domed I wanna suicide. And there def would be slurs at that point to rub the salt in. But maps like Dust 2, sure you can work with nothing much easier. But even Mirage can kinda feel bad.

[Hamless Hog]

Escrito originalmente por WhiteZet:

Is Premier MM more balanced than competitive, or is MM just broken in general.
Or does the game just put all "new" players in a random lobby & I have to suffer this initiation before I get to play with fellow noobs?
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I would say premier is less balanced. Ranking people on each map is more accurate. So really none of the above.

[Hamless Hog]

Escrito originalmente por WhiteZet:

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I don't think many people are expecting you to know smoke lineups in Premier. Sure, they could come in handy and elevate your gameplay but while Premier might be a little less relaxed than competitive mm it is by no means anywhere close to as sweaty as Faceit.
I think you can absolutely wing it until 20k and even higher.

I think all Valve game modes are pretty casual but that's probably a matter of perspective

I just hate not knowing any smokes. Especially maps like Nuke are suffocating & if all I'm doing is getting domed I wanna suicide. And there def would be slurs at that point to rub the salt in. But maps like Dust 2, sure you can work with nothing much easier. But even Mirage can kinda feel bad.

Then learn smokes Are you wanting people to take it easy on you in comp?

[WhiteZet]

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I just hate not knowing any smokes. Especially maps like Nuke are suffocating & if all I'm doing is getting domed I wanna suicide. And there def would be slurs at that point to rub the salt in. But maps like Dust 2, sure you can work with nothing much easier. But even Mirage can kinda feel bad.

Then learn smokes :shrugging_sign: Are you wanting people to take it easy on you in comp?

Yes.

[Hamless Hog]

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Then learn smokes Are you wanting people to take it easy on you in comp?

Yes.

Thats not gonna happen wtf.

[WhiteZet]

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Yes.

Thats not gonna happen wtf.

Aww man.

[Hamless Hog]

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Thats not gonna happen wtf.

Aww man.

How would you respond if someone asked you to stop trying so they can win?

[WhiteZet]

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Aww man.

How would you respond if someone asked you to stop trying so they can win?

How would you respond if I told you that you're being retarded so I replied in a retarded way?

[Hamless Hog]

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How would you respond if someone asked you to stop trying so they can win?

How would you respond if I told you that you're being retarded so I replied in a retarded way?

I wouldnt really care tbh, I might feel bad for you maybe. So how would you respond if someone asked you to stop trying so they can win? Thats what youre asking for right?

[WhiteZet]

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How would you respond if I told you that you're being retarded so I replied in a retarded way?

I wouldnt really care tbh, I might feel bad for you maybe. So how would you respond if someone asked you to stop trying so they can win? Thats what youre asking for right?

Ofc.