smurfs 30% of times and cheaters 70% of times

[Tah_NoRagePlz]

how tf valve let this situation alive for 3 years , vac is outdated , on 1m players there is like 700k that not legit

[Hamless Hog]

Nobody gets cheaters anywhere near that often. Where are you getting this nonsense?

[Ignatius Norant]

Where do you fall in in that 30 or 70 %?

[ATLAS]

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cringe.

looking at the HARD DATA which says that 15-55% of the whole player base is already vac banned your experience seems about average, OP.

everyone who is any good in this game plays with and against cheaters in every single game.

notice how it's only the unskilled players who try to convince you otherwise.

[ATLAS]

if you make a second account and only play it for 2 matches every 2 weeks you will also have clean matches, by the way.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by ATLAS:

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cringe.

looking at the HARD DATA which says that 15-55% of the whole player base is already vac banned your experience seems about average, OP.

everyone who is any good in this game plays with and against cheaters in every single game.

notice how it's only the unskilled players who try to convince you otherwise.

You nor anybody else gets cheaters that often thoug. Where are you getting this hard data?

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by ATLAS:

if you make a second account and only play it for 2 matches every 2 weeks you will also have clean matches, by the way.

So you were just lying about cheaters in every match

[RichieeeS]

WTFFF

[vancia]

Originally posted by Tah_NoRagePlz:

how tf valve let this situation alive for 3 years , vac is outdated , on 1m players there is like 700k that not legit

Are you even sure those 70% is the probability of getting them? you should provide an evidence supporting your claims.

[M4CHIN4TION]

totally agree !! WHERE IS VAC LIVE ??? WHERE IS VAC ????????

[vancia]

Originally posted by M4CHIN4:

totally agree !! WHERE IS VAC LIVE ??? WHERE IS VAC ????????

Both VAC live and VAC is inside the game.

[vancia]

Originally posted by halberian:

Originally posted by mizuri:

You hurt my feelings, what DMA board are you talking about? I am innocent about those things.

Beautiful acting, what theater do you work at?

What theater? I am not acting, why would I do that?

[bAd a!m]

Originally posted by mizuri:

Originally posted by Tah_NoRagePlz:

how tf valve let this situation alive for 3 years , vac is outdated , on 1m players there is like 700k that not legit

Are you even sure those 70% is the probability of getting them? you should provide an evidence supporting your claims.

if you search through my post history, you'll find a post exactly on cheaters stats.

The data was collected from an average sample.

The cheaters prevalence is between 5% to 15%. What this means is that from 100 players you will meet (both your team and enemy team), 5 to 15 will be cheaters.

In order to meet 100 people, you need 10 games (considering solo q).

So, in 10 games the max cheaters you might see is 15 and the minimum is 5.

Because these are probabilities, you can end up playing 10 games and having less or more cheaters.

Going with the minimum number (which is average), getting 5 cheaters in 10 games as a probability usually translates into actually getting 2 or 3 real cheaters.

Considering random distribution patterns, this implies not all will be in the enemy team, at least "1" unit will fall in your team. So we're left with 1-2 cheaters in the enemy team.

Out of 10 real games, you will face 1 of 2 real cheaters. Unfortunately, this can't be 0, because there are people who make a living from selling cheats and they always adapt to what VAC updates are pushed.

Compared to the initial 70%, the real 2% is not so bad.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by YT @instituteofgamin:

So, in 10 games the max cheaters you might see is 15 and the minimum is 5.

This is not true at all. Just look at most players stats. They dont get cheaters near that often.

[vancia]

Originally posted by YT @instituteofgamin:

Originally posted by mizuri:

Are you even sure those 70% is the probability of getting them? you should provide an evidence supporting your claims.

if you search through my post history, you'll find a post exactly on cheaters stats.

The data was collected from an average sample.

The cheaters prevalence is between 5% to 15%. What this means is that from 100 players you will meet (both your team and enemy team), 5 to 15 will be cheaters.

In order to meet 100 people, you need 10 games (considering solo q).

So, in 10 games the max cheaters you might see is 15 and the minimum is 5.

Because these are probabilities, you can end up playing 10 games and having less or more cheaters.

Going with the minimum number (which is average), getting 5 cheaters in 10 games as a probability usually translates into actually getting 2 or 3 real cheaters.

Considering random distribution patterns, this implies not all will be in the enemy team, at least "1" unit will fall in your team. So we're left with 1-2 cheaters in the enemy team.

Out of 10 real games, you will face 1 of 2 real cheaters. Unfortunately, this can't be 0, because there are people who make a living from selling cheats and they always adapt to what VAC updates are pushed.

Compared to the initial 70%, the real 2% is not so bad.

The data that you're trying to tell me is only an "unofficial gathered data" how can I trust that your data is accurately purely correct?

[bAd a!m]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by YT @instituteofgamin:

So, in 10 games the max cheaters you might see is 15 and the minimum is 5.

This is not true at all. Just look at most players stats. They dont get cheaters near that often.

I did look at the numbers, and that's the probability. As I said, the real numbers can be higher or lower. They tend to be lower most of the year and tend to be higher during holidays.