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jambi Dec 1, 2024 @ 3:46pm
*RANT* Why should I lose rank if my team sucks? Premier is garbage.
For roughly 5 matches in a row now I've been the top player with a decent K/D ratio but lost all of them because of someone who is terrible at the game (for example someone couldn't find a bomb ticking down right in front of their face) and losing us given rounds. So why should I lose rank if we lose the match due to someone else's doing? Premier is garbage and makes no sense. No wonder people flock to faceit.

EDIT: Don't get me started on all the trollers and cheating.
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Jzson Dec 1, 2024 @ 3:49pm 
elo is rng based just like most of the guns and the gambling skin market
CS2 is a team game, and if you can't carry a team of silver 1s alone against 5 globals, you must be a silver 1 too :)
Hamless Hog Dec 1, 2024 @ 4:03pm 
Well it wouldnt really make sense to gain mmr from a loss.
Team Fortress 2 Dec 1, 2024 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by kabanod1m #NotoToxicity:
CS2 is a team game
which is exactly why everyone on your team being able to play the game matters
jambi Dec 1, 2024 @ 5:00pm 
Just lost again because someone quit the game at the start of the match making it 4v5. Impossible to rank in this garbage game.
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Oyun Arşivim Dec 1, 2024 @ 5:03pm 
Because game wants you "carry" if you can't carry. Stay down. By your logic every average player wins elo and inflate upper ladder.
🐠🍑 Dec 1, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by jambi:
For roughly 5 matches in a row now I've been the top player with a decent K/D ratio but lost all of them because of someone who is terrible at the game (for example someone couldn't find a bomb ticking down right in front of their face) and losing us given rounds. So why should I lose rank if we lose the match due to someone else's doing? Premier is garbage and makes no sense. No wonder people flock to faceit.

EDIT: Don't get me started on all the trollers and cheating.
If your part of the team, and your team loses then you have lost. Please learn from your mistakes and do better next time so your team can win a game 😊
jambi Dec 1, 2024 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by 🤑💰🤑💰🤑💰🤑💰:
Originally posted by jambi:
For roughly 5 matches in a row now I've been the top player with a decent K/D ratio but lost all of them because of someone who is terrible at the game (for example someone couldn't find a bomb ticking down right in front of their face) and losing us given rounds. So why should I lose rank if we lose the match due to someone else's doing? Premier is garbage and makes no sense. No wonder people flock to faceit.

EDIT: Don't get me started on all the trollers and cheating.
If your part of the team, and your team loses then you have lost. Please learn from your mistakes and do better next time so your team can win a game 😊

I had like 30 kills and 8 deaths on 1 match.. what more can I do??????????
UNKNOWN Dec 1, 2024 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by jambi:
Originally posted by 🤑💰🤑💰🤑💰🤑💰:
If your part of the team, and your team loses then you have lost. Please learn from your mistakes and do better next time so your team can win a game 😊

I had like 30 kills and 8 deaths on 1 match.. what more can I do??????????
Win the game
🐠🍑 Dec 1, 2024 @ 6:27pm 
Originally posted by Me and Myself:
Originally posted by jambi:

I had like 30 kills and 8 deaths on 1 match.. what more can I do??????????
Win the game
This should be marked as the correct answer to this thread 👍
Jzson Dec 1, 2024 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by 🤑💰🤑💰🤑💰🤑💰:
Originally posted by Me and Myself:
Win the game
This should be marked as the correct answer to this thread 👍
you quoted someone else instead of my first reply by mistake
orange Dec 1, 2024 @ 6:51pm 
Originally posted by jambi:
For roughly 5 matches in a row now I've been the top player with a decent K/D ratio but lost all of them because of someone who is terrible at the game (for example someone couldn't find a bomb ticking down right in front of their face) and losing us given rounds. So why should I lose rank if we lose the match due to someone else's doing? Premier is garbage and makes no sense. No wonder people flock to faceit.

EDIT: Don't get me started on all the trollers and cheating.

Whenever people come on here and mention anything about KD as a measurement to their skill or rank, I die a little inside. They clearly have menial understanding of the mechanisms that are required to win games. They know absolutely nothing about high impact kills vs low impact kills and plays, and that a player with a 10 and 18 scoreline could have been more impactful to round wins than a player with a 22 and 6 scoreline. Getting 3 frags as a lurker / last man left but still losing the round doesn't help your team accomplish the winning objective, which is either to stop bomb plants, or plant bombs and blow stuff up. You need to stop looking at KDR, and start looking at WHY you're losing rounds. And like someone before me in this thread said, if you can't carry a team of silver 1's to a win, you're also no better than a silver 2 or 3 yourself. The same applies to every rank. If you can't be the major contributing factor to your teams round-wins MOST of the time, you ARE the rank you are placed in. Your KDR has VERY LITTLE to do with your actual winning games and should NEVER be used as a metric to measure why you're losing games. Go back and watch the games. You'll see MANY MANY MANY situations where instead of taking that fight after getting 1 or 2 kills, you would have been way smarter to try and back off, wait for the rest of your team, use smokes and util, and just stay alive. A LOT of times, your presence as a living number even at 1 hp is more valuable than you trying to get that 2nd or 3rd greedy kill. It's the difference between if they actually get the bomb plant, or stay back and never establish full control of a site at all.....and vise versa. A lot of times on T side, you'll notice (and I particularly notice it on mirage a lot of times) with inexperienced players, they'll go up ramp on A, and everyone just kinda locks up on tetris looking for fights. Everyone becomes kind of "afraid to die". You can't be afraid to die in this game. Figuring out enemy positions is what can help secure kills earlier, when rotations haven't happened yet, and gets you the plants. Hesitation is your worst enemy in this game. Whatever you're doing, do it with confidence and purpose. Regardless if it's taking a fight, peeking a corner, knife baiting an awp shot....do it all like you know exactly what you're there to do. And just because your teammate dies, doesn't mean you get scared and don't push. Get the trades, and don't be upset if you die too. You've gotten 2 kills before. So can the enemy. Don't let your teammate die for no reason, even if they shouldn't have been where they were in the first place. If they're playing bad and going places they shouldn't, be stupidly smart and go with them. I know that sounds dumb, but it's not. If you've tried reasoning with them and they're not listening, be stupid with them, because at least you can trade them and make their death worth something. That's the best advice I have for low ranks. Sometimes playing smart hurts in low ranks, as sad as that is. Don't try to play super smart until you're a bare minimal of 18k-ish. People below that are just insufferably dumb about 80% of the time.
jambi Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:50pm 
Originally posted by orange:
Originally posted by jambi:
For roughly 5 matches in a row now I've been the top player with a decent K/D ratio but lost all of them because of someone who is terrible at the game (for example someone couldn't find a bomb ticking down right in front of their face) and losing us given rounds. So why should I lose rank if we lose the match due to someone else's doing? Premier is garbage and makes no sense. No wonder people flock to faceit.

EDIT: Don't get me started on all the trollers and cheating.

Whenever people come on here and mention anything about KD as a measurement to their skill or rank, I die a little inside. They clearly have menial understanding of the mechanisms that are required to win games. They know absolutely nothing about high impact kills vs low impact kills and plays, and that a player with a 10 and 18 scoreline could have been more impactful to round wins than a player with a 22 and 6 scoreline. Getting 3 frags as a lurker / last man left but still losing the round doesn't help your team accomplish the winning objective, which is either to stop bomb plants, or plant bombs and blow stuff up. You need to stop looking at KDR, and start looking at WHY you're losing rounds. And like someone before me in this thread said, if you can't carry a team of silver 1's to a win, you're also no better than a silver 2 or 3 yourself. The same applies to every rank. If you can't be the major contributing factor to your teams round-wins MOST of the time, you ARE the rank you are placed in. Your KDR has VERY LITTLE to do with your actual winning games and should NEVER be used as a metric to measure why you're losing games. Go back and watch the games. You'll see MANY MANY MANY situations where instead of taking that fight after getting 1 or 2 kills, you would have been way smarter to try and back off, wait for the rest of your team, use smokes and util, and just stay alive. A LOT of times, your presence as a living number even at 1 hp is more valuable than you trying to get that 2nd or 3rd greedy kill. It's the difference between if they actually get the bomb plant, or stay back and never establish full control of a site at all.....and vise versa. A lot of times on T side, you'll notice (and I particularly notice it on mirage a lot of times) with inexperienced players, they'll go up ramp on A, and everyone just kinda locks up on tetris looking for fights. Everyone becomes kind of "afraid to die". You can't be afraid to die in this game. Figuring out enemy positions is what can help secure kills earlier, when rotations haven't happened yet, and gets you the plants. Hesitation is your worst enemy in this game. Whatever you're doing, do it with confidence and purpose. Regardless if it's taking a fight, peeking a corner, knife baiting an awp shot....do it all like you know exactly what you're there to do. And just because your teammate dies, doesn't mean you get scared and don't push. Get the trades, and don't be upset if you die too. You've gotten 2 kills before. So can the enemy. Don't let your teammate die for no reason, even if they shouldn't have been where they were in the first place. If they're playing bad and going places they shouldn't, be stupidly smart and go with them. I know that sounds dumb, but it's not. If you've tried reasoning with them and they're not listening, be stupid with them, because at least you can trade them and make their death worth something. That's the best advice I have for low ranks. Sometimes playing smart hurts in low ranks, as sad as that is. Don't try to play super smart until you're a bare minimal of 18k-ish. People below that are just insufferably dumb about 80% of the time.

I just want to say thanks for putting in the effort to write all that.
Baziz Dec 23, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Thats why you shouldnt solo q
Valerie Dec 23, 2024 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by Jzson:
elo is rng based just like most of the guns and the gambling skin market
Then go play CoD. You've been on this grift for way too long and at most you got what, 10 clown awards? Give it a rest the joke is old now.
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Date Posted: Dec 1, 2024 @ 3:46pm
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