Unbannable Hacks?

[Lui.P]

Ok, so I recently played with two wall hackers on fresh accounts in a community competitive. It then came to my attention that, supposed the hacks are not valve anti cheat detectable, they would not get banned for using these hacks as overwatch is only applicable to valve competitive games (the demo is taken from them). How would valve then get around this? Is it possible to overwatch a casual, community competitive or any other none valve competitive situation?

[Art]

vac bans has delay

[wherever i go]

casual games can get overwatched if i remember correctly. i dunno about community servers, but most likely not.

[My Mom Watches My Demos]

hacking is bad

[SanderThePanda]

Originally posted by Pickle Ⓖ:

casual games can get overwatched if i remember correctly. i dunno about community servers, but most likely not.

You can't get overwatch in casual unless you've been hacking in mm beforehand and not hack in casual...

anyway, hacking is for dummies who can't play without them, l2p

[BibleClinger]

Originally posted by Art:

vac bans has delay

This.

VAC often lets cheaters get away with cheating for a little bit of time before busting a new cheat. Then after this time, a VAC banwave hits and many cheaters get banned. This results in a larger catch.

[octoba]

yes such a thing exist Unbannable Hacks its called taking back hands and money talks.

[Lui.P]

Originally posted by Sander The Panda:

Originally posted by Pickle Ⓖ:

casual games can get overwatched if i remember correctly. i dunno about community servers, but most likely not.

You can't get overwatch in casual unless you've been hacking in mm beforehand and not hack in casual...

anyway, hacking is for dummies who can't play without them, l2p

yeah that's what i thought....

[Lui.P]

Originally posted by BibleClinger:

Originally posted by Art:

vac bans has delay

This.

VAC often lets cheaters get away with cheating for a little bit of time before busting a new cheat. Then after this time, a VAC banwave hits and many cheaters get banned. This results in a larger catch.

That's true but still some hacks can be undetectable...

[BibleClinger]

Originally posted by Lui.P:

That's true but still some hacks can be undetectable...

This is why Overwatch is such a potent weapon. Even if you are able to get past VAC, you're still in danger of being caught by Overwatch.

I hope that something like Fair Fight officially comes to CSGO as well. This would help to make CSGO pretty clean..

[Lui.P]

Originally posted by BibleClinger:

Originally posted by Lui.P:

That's true but still some hacks can be undetectable...

This is why Overwatch is such a potent weapon. Even if you are able to get past VAC, you're still in danger of being caught by Overwatch.

I hope that something like Fair Fight officially comes to CSGO as well. This would help to make CSGO pretty clean..

Yeah, but until then what happens to those using undetectable hacks in none valve competitive situations?

[pickin' scabs]

they will still get banned

[Lui.P]

Originally posted by nicolas cage:

they will still get banned

yeah eventually with the ban wave (which btw does not ban ALL hacks, only like 95%), but what happens untill then? Its still unfair for other users in those situations....

[BibleClinger]

Originally posted by Lui.P:

Yeah, but until then what happens to those using undetectable hacks in none valve competitive situations?

I think the only concern is the non-Competitive modes. I would suggest that players report cheaters in those game modes and let Valve worry about that.

[frisky]

Originally posted by Lui.P:

Originally posted by nicolas cage:

they will still get banned

yeah eventually with the ban wave (which btw does not ban ALL hacks, only like 95%), but what happens untill then? Its still unfair for other users in those situations....

Nothing happens until then.

VAC intentionally delays banning new detections to prevent giving immediate feedback to the cheat developer. If their cheats were banned instantly, they'd be able to continue developing their cheat until one of their test accounts weren't VACd. Letting the cheat "live" for a little and then banning the users in one giant wave is more effective in the long run.

[Lui.P]

Originally posted by BibleClinger:

Originally posted by Lui.P:

Yeah, but until then what happens to those using undetectable hacks in none valve competitive situations?

I think the only concern is the non-Competitive modes. I would suggest that players report cheaters in those game modes and let Valve worry about that.

Yeah I guess

Originally posted by frisky:

Originally posted by Lui.P:

yeah eventually with the ban wave (which btw does not ban ALL hacks, only like 95%), but what happens untill then? Its still unfair for other users in those situations....

Nothing happens until then.

VAC intentionally delays banning new detections to prevent giving immediate feedback to the cheat developer. If their cheats were banned instantly, they'd be able to continue developing their cheat until one of their test accounts weren't VACd. Letting the cheat "live" for a little and then banning the users in one giant wave is more effective in the long run.

Ok well i guess its not that big of a deal as long as it doesnt effect ranks in proper mm. But luckly thats ajusted for all after hacker is banned.