significantly fps loss when pressing TAB?

[charlize]

usually i have over 200-250+ fps but as soon as i press TAB, my fps go instantly down to 100 fps + i huge stutters while holding TAB.

is that normal? has it always been like this? i don't recall that it was like that in csgo...

[Sethioz]

Originally posted by Odessa:

usually i have over 200-250+ fps but as soon as i press TAB, my fps go instantly down to 100 fps + i huge stutters while holding TAB.

is that normal? has it always been like this? i don't recall that it was like that in csgo...

.... another one with unlocked fps and wondering why you get unstable performance.

unlocked fps is for stress testing and/or benchmarking only, you're not suppose to play games with unlocked, that's why you get such weird issues.

running unlocked fps is like driving your car in 1st gear only, revving engine to the max and using only clutch to regulate speed and then wondering why engine and clutch are overheating and wearing out fast.
this is what you're doing to your PC. unlocked fps = your system is under 100% load at all times.
when opening scoreboard, it requires computing power to do so, but since your resources are already 100% allocated to render graphics, then this will cause a spike.

you should NEVER have 100% gpu usage when gaming, that's worst thing you can do to your pc. if game is demanding, set your graphics in a way that GPU usage is below 90%, this way you don't get any kind of spikes that lag or stutter you.

i play in 1440p 60fps with gtx 1080 and GPU usage is only about 20-30%. i don't get any stuttering or lag issues, cs2 runs so smooth. only issues are random crashes, but those are because of bad patches, sometimes it keeps crashing after a patch, while sometimes it won't crash at all.

[charlize]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by Odessa:

usually i have over 200-250+ fps but as soon as i press TAB, my fps go instantly down to 100 fps + i huge stutters while holding TAB.

is that normal? has it always been like this? i don't recall that it was like that in csgo...

.... another one with unlocked fps and wondering why you get unstable performance.

.... another one who doesn't know what he is talking about.

1. i am not playing unlocked... and i have no idea how you did come up with this accusation, because i locked my fps to 270 and i meant with my "200-250+" that i get more or less fps depending on the map.

2. "this is what you're doing to your PC." yeah, because i mentioned explicitly that i have not locked my fps.

3. "but since your resources are already 100% allocated to render graphics, then this will cause a spike." are you some sort of clairvoyant? because my system isn't running at 100%...

4. "you should NEVER have 100% gpu usage when gaming, that's worst thing you can do to your pc." yeah, glad that it's never running at 100% usage :D

5. "this way you don't get any kind of spikes that lag or stutter you." did exactly that + locked my fps and STILL have huge stutters and a significant fps loss but ONLY when pressing TAB, unusual, right?

6. "cs2 runs so smooth." mine too.

7. "only issues are random crashes, but those are because of bad patches, sometimes it keeps crashing after a patch, while sometimes it won't crash at all." unusual as well because my game never crashed.

[McClane]

just tested and my fps drops too when i press tab, it goes back up when i release tab- my fpsmax is 400

mine does not stutter but fps drops to about 150-200 depending on stuff

[Super Hans]

This has been a thing since the early days of CS:GO. No matter where you set your fps limit, it will decrease by -25-50% when pressing TAB. For EVERYONE.

Originally posted by Sethioz:

.... another one with unlocked fps and wondering why you get unstable performance.

unlocked fps is for stress testing and/or benchmarking only, you're not suppose to play games with unlocked, that's why you get such weird issues.

running unlocked fps is like driving your car in 1st gear only, revving engine to the max and using only clutch to regulate speed and then wondering why engine and clutch are overheating and wearing out fast.
this is what you're doing to your PC. unlocked fps = your system is under 100% load at all times.
when opening scoreboard, it requires computing power to do so, but since your resources are already 100% allocated to render graphics, then this will cause a spike.

you should NEVER have 100% gpu usage when gaming, that's worst thing you can do to your pc. if game is demanding, set your graphics in a way that GPU usage is below 90%, this way you don't get any kind of spikes that lag or stutter you.

i play in 1440p 60fps with gtx 1080 and GPU usage is only about 20-30%. i don't get any stuttering or lag issues, cs2 runs so smooth. only issues are random crashes, but those are because of bad patches, sometimes it keeps crashing after a patch, while sometimes it won't crash at all.

Don't listen to this "Sethioz". The guy is comparing electronics to combustion engines for Christ's sake. He has claimed to be a "PC expert" and at the same time he is promoting things like: never updating your drivers, never updating your bios, never updating windows etc.. Very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid advices for average joe who don't know PC tech.

And then, I have NEVER crashed CS2. In a year or so when I have been able to play it. It hasn't had "bad patches". It's just this guys ancient computer crapping out.

[skOsH♥]

Originally posted by Super Hans:

This has been a thing since the early days of CS:GO. No matter where you set your fps limit, it will decrease by -25-50% when pressing TAB. For EVERYONE.

Originally posted by Sethioz:

.... another one with unlocked fps and wondering why you get unstable performance.

unlocked fps is for stress testing and/or benchmarking only, you're not suppose to play games with unlocked, that's why you get such weird issues.

running unlocked fps is like driving your car in 1st gear only, revving engine to the max and using only clutch to regulate speed and then wondering why engine and clutch are overheating and wearing out fast.
this is what you're doing to your PC. unlocked fps = your system is under 100% load at all times.
when opening scoreboard, it requires computing power to do so, but since your resources are already 100% allocated to render graphics, then this will cause a spike.

you should NEVER have 100% gpu usage when gaming, that's worst thing you can do to your pc. if game is demanding, set your graphics in a way that GPU usage is below 90%, this way you don't get any kind of spikes that lag or stutter you.

i play in 1440p 60fps with gtx 1080 and GPU usage is only about 20-30%. i don't get any stuttering or lag issues, cs2 runs so smooth. only issues are random crashes, but those are because of bad patches, sometimes it keeps crashing after a patch, while sometimes it won't crash at all.

Don't listen to this "Sethioz". The guy is comparing electronics to combustion engines for Christ's sake. He has claimed to be a "PC expert" and at the same time he is promoting things like: never updating your drivers, never updating your bios, never updating windows etc.. Very ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid advices for average joe who don't know PC tech.

And then, I have NEVER crashed CS2. In a year or so when I have been able to play it. It hasn't had "bad patches". It's just this guys ancient computer crapping out.

Can I ask what settings you choose to manipulate in graphics options or is it all default? Also, any launch options you do? How much do you undervolt your gpu, if you do that?

I don't play with uncapped fps. That's originally what it was doing. No, I limit my max fps to what my card can reasonably do, and 1920x1080 on a 2k ultrawide screen fullscreen, the pixel density is half what it normally is, on all high settings with 2k native resolution I get no crashes, but I don't want to use 2k resolution. The thing is, there's absolutely nothing wrong with my pc, I've troubleshot everything on my end, I'm an ocd techie I've checked everything...

the only thing I can think of is that vsync is somehow enabled in the game when I have it disabled.

[Super Hans]

Originally posted by skOsH:

Can I ask what settings you choose to manipulate in graphics options or is it all default? Also, any launch options you do? How much do you undervolt your gpu, if you do that?

I don't play with uncapped fps. That's originally what it was doing. No, I limit my max fps to what my card can reasonably do, and 1920x1080 on a 2k ultrawide screen fullscreen, the pixel density is half what it normally is, on all high settings with 2k native resolution I get no crashes, but I don't want to use 2k resolution. The thing is, there's absolutely nothing wrong with my pc, I've troubleshot everything on my end, I'm an ocd techie I've checked everything...

the only thing I can think of is that vsync is somehow enabled in the game when I have it disabled.

I play on 1600x900. That is the smallest resolution that doesn't have this "smeared vaseline"-effect on and you can actually see further pretty clear. Going lower than this is like you'd literally have vaseline smeared on your screen and you can't see clearly to far distances. I don't get how some people can play on like 1280x1024 or 1280x720. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful.

Boost Player Contrast: Enabled.
V-Synch: Disabled.
Anti-Aliasing: 4xMSAA.
Global Shadow Quality: High.
Model / Texture Detail: Medium.
Texture Filtering: Anisotropic 4х
Shader Detail: Low.
Particle Detail: Low.
Ambient Occlusion: Disabled
High Dynamic Range: Performance
FidelityFX Super Resolution: Disabled
NVIDIA Reflex Low Latency: On

I've set fps_max 250 because it's the lowest point my fps will fall when there are million players fighting, smokes popped, mollies burning and stuff happening.

In launch options I have the usual stuff. -high -threads 16 -nojoy -freq 170 +exec autoexec

I have not undervolted my GPU because it doesn't get very hot. When I play something very CPU/GPU intense game like TLOU or Hellblade 2 my max GPU temperatures are around 60-65c. In CS2 I get even less heat.

[♿DaddyAim^60hz -38y]

just set cl_radar_square_with_scoreboard to false (0) instead, always been there, nothing new either in csgo or cs2. and stop with all these launch options/driver solutions u guys have.. clearly very look rank players think they know anything :D

[Kamelot]

Same here

[Trie]

Still facing the same issue....
350 to 300 (feels like 30 tho, knife/hands gets laggy)

[rz]

Originally posted by ♿DaddyAim- 38yearsold:

just set cl_radar_square_with_scoreboard to false (0) instead, always been there, nothing new either in csgo or cs2. and stop with all these launch options/driver solutions u guys have.. clearly very look rank players think they know anything :D

this one literally helped me so much
i love u man

[Šaňo Fekete]

type -vulkan to cs properties

[Steven]

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