Razer's Snap Tap and Wooting's SOCD

[UnL1k3]

Are these allowed? Are they bannable?

[UnL1k3]

Dams a écrit :

Need an official statement from steam imo

Yup. Valve needs to speak up.

[Renos]

TeaSimon a écrit :

why would it be bannable. that would be like banning someone for having a super high hertz display. its obvious that some peripherals can give advantage over other players but thats always been the case. no way that you would get banned

have high refresh rates
and having commands or keyboards that automates inputs for you thus removing all skill are 2 very different things,

This is the equivalent of showing up to a fighting game tournament and bringing a hitbox that has macros for special moves or complex combos.
At this point why don't we just bring back that mouse that allowed you to automate perfect spray pattern movements,

[TeaSimon]

UnL1k3 a écrit :

TeaSimon a écrit :

why would it be bannable. that would be like banning someone for having a super high hertz display. its obvious that some peripherals can give advantage over other players but thats always been the case. no way that you would get banned

Kinda different from high refresh rates in the sense that it makes a skill based game mechanic trivial. Higher refreshes while being very useful doesn't directly impact game mechanics.

fair, but even if its "not allowed" how would they detect it? isnt the keyboard just sending the outputs like a normal keyboard? doing all the calculations before sending the output to pc

[TeaSimon]

Renos a écrit :

TeaSimon a écrit :

why would it be bannable. that would be like banning someone for having a super high hertz display. its obvious that some peripherals can give advantage over other players but thats always been the case. no way that you would get banned

have high refresh rates
and having commands or keyboards that automates inputs for you thus removing all skill are 2 very different things,

This is the equivalent of showing up to a fighting game tournament and bringing a hitbox that has macros for special moves or complex combos.
At this point why don't we just bring back that mouse that allowed you to automate perfect spray pattern movements,

valve cant even ban people that are spinning 100 times per second, and never could ban people using bhop scripts/mouse scripts. maybe tournaments are going to be able to ban it, but I dont think valve is doing sh*t about this anytime soon

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TeaSimon a écrit :

Renos a écrit :

have high refresh rates
and having commands or keyboards that automates inputs for you thus removing all skill are 2 very different things,

This is the equivalent of showing up to a fighting game tournament and bringing a hitbox that has macros for special moves or complex combos.
At this point why don't we just bring back that mouse that allowed you to automate perfect spray pattern movements,

valve cant even ban people that are spinning 100 times per second, and never could ban people using bhop scripts/mouse scripts. maybe tournaments are going to be able to ban it, but I dont think valve is doing ♥♥♥♥ about this anytime soon

What are you talking about? There are no spinbotters anymore because they all got banned...

[TeaSimon]

create joy a écrit :

TeaSimon a écrit :

valve cant even ban people that are spinning 100 times per second, and never could ban people using bhop scripts/mouse scripts. maybe tournaments are going to be able to ban it, but I dont think valve is doing ♥♥♥♥ about this anytime soon

What are you talking about? There are no spinbotters anymore because they all got banned...

took 10+ years XD. im sure they will act on this quickly, updating VAC within a week to ban everyone using SOCD.

[UNKNOWN]

TeaSimon a écrit :

create joy a écrit :

What are you talking about? There are no spinbotters anymore because they all got banned...

took 10+ years XD. im sure they will act on this quickly, updating VAC within a week to ban everyone using SOCD.

Then why did you say they aren't getting banned if they ARE getting banned? Isn't that rather dishonest?

[LemmingGAN]

i play with it in my config since 9 months i give a ♥♥♥♥ of a 299€ keyboard

[coda]

How do you fell for this obvious marketing, guys? This feature is a placebo to sell more pieces.

[UnL1k3]

coda a écrit :

How do you fell for this obvious marketing, guys? This feature is a placebo to sell more pieces for you dummies.

It literally isn't. It can objectively be proved it isn't.

[Hamsterpeek]

Tournaments don't allow it but valve can't detect it so that should be fine. But I hope they find a way to detect it and make it banable. Also I'm not only a honest player but I also want to play without things taking away something from the game. The game is so interesting even all these years and playtime because you get better and learn in many different aspects and counter strafing is a huge part of it.

[coda]

UnL1k3 a écrit :

coda a écrit :

How do you fell for this obvious marketing, guys? This feature is a placebo to sell more pieces for you dummies.

It literally isn't. It can objectively be proved it isn't.

It can objectively be proved only in zero velocity. Which is not a thing in this game. And even with zero velocity, milliseconds type difference is not enough to give you any real advantage, but more than enough to tease players with clickbaits and do a good sells.

[gryefer]

faceít whitelisted it

[UnL1k3]

coda a écrit :

UnL1k3 a écrit :

It literally isn't. It can objectively be proved it isn't.

It can objectively be proved only in zero velocity. Which is not a thing in this game. And even with zero velocity, milliseconds type difference is not enough to give you any real advantage, but more than enough to tease players with clickbaits and do a good sells.

A simple watch of a youtube video on this subject will prove that it is not only effective, but is basically cheating when it comes to strafing.

[coda]

UnL1k3 a écrit :

coda a écrit :

It can objectively be proved only in zero velocity. Which is not a thing in this game. And even with zero velocity, milliseconds type difference is not enough to give you any real advantage, but more than enough to tease players with clickbaits and do a good sells.

A simple watch of a youtube video on this subject will prove that it is not only effective, but is basically cheating when it comes to strafing.

Those videos from razer marketing company? Yeah, I've seen them. Nice commercials.