How can Cheats Detect other Cheats But Valve's Anti Cheat cannot detect anything????

[KingpinX]

serious question valve. Been asking cheaters that i run into soloing, since some have cheats that detect other cheats.....they all laugh about vac.

[Fr4ntic]

Yeah because cheaters are a trustworthy source.
Take a look in the vac forum and see how they all lie their teeth out.

Vac bans are delayed to not help cheat developers.

They do get banned eventually but thats the part they are not telling you.

[Sethioz]

Originally posted by KingpinX:

serious question valve. Been asking cheaters that i run into soloing, since some have cheats that detect other cheats.....they all laugh about vac.

what do you mean cheats that detect cheats? what does that even mean?

cheat = unfair advantage

you saying "there are unfair advantage to detect unfair advantage" .. like HUH?

as about VAC, you need to research on how VAC works. it runs on server side and it checks game memory and files integrity. if cheats don't make any modifications to game's memory nor files, then cheat cannot be detected by VAC.
such cheats are wallhacks / ESP, because they're read only. they read player location from game's memory, but don't make any modifications, therefore it cannot be detected by VAC.

it's also possible to read player locations from packets, in that case you can route your network via other PC and run cheat software on another PC and have extra monitor next to yours, so you can see where enemies are aka external radar hack.

also VAC bans are DELAYED and it takes 1-30 days before VAC bans are applied. this is why it appears nobody gets banned, but out of about 35 million players, about 5 million are VAC banned, that's quite significant amount. it works, but just not well enough.

[cats187]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by KingpinX:

serious question valve. Been asking cheaters that i run into soloing, since some have cheats that detect other cheats.....they all laugh about vac.

what do you mean cheats that detect cheats? what does that even mean?

cheat = unfair advantage

you saying "there are unfair advantage to detect unfair advantage" .. like HUH?

as about VAC, you need to research on how VAC works. it runs on server side and it checks game memory and files integrity. if cheats don't make any modifications to game's memory nor files, then cheat cannot be detected by VAC.
such cheats are wallhacks / ESP, because they're read only. they read player location from game's memory, but don't make any modifications, therefore it cannot be detected by VAC.

it's also possible to read player locations from packets, in that case you can route your network via other PC and run cheat software on another PC and have extra monitor next to yours, so you can see where enemies are aka external radar hack.

also VAC bans are DELAYED and it takes 1-30 days before VAC bans are applied. this is why it appears nobody gets banned, but out of about 35 million players, about 5 million are VAC banned, that's quite significant amount. it works, but just not well enough.

Some cheats can tell you if another player is cheating so you can be ready for them. Some features are anti aim, it forces there crosshair somewhere else when they try to aim at you

[Dying Lactic Acid Bacteria]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by KingpinX:

serious question valve. Been asking cheaters that i run into soloing, since some have cheats that detect other cheats.....they all laugh about vac.

what do you mean cheats that detect cheats? what does that even mean?

cheat = unfair advantage

you saying "there are unfair advantage to detect unfair advantage" .. like HUH?

as about VAC, you need to research on how VAC works. it runs on server side and it checks game memory and files integrity. if cheats don't make any modifications to game's memory nor files, then cheat cannot be detected by VAC.
such cheats are wallhacks / ESP, because they're read only. they read player location from game's memory, but don't make any modifications, therefore it cannot be detected by VAC.

it's also possible to read player locations from packets, in that case you can route your network via other PC and run cheat software on another PC and have extra monitor next to yours, so you can see where enemies are aka external radar hack.

also VAC bans are DELAYED and it takes 1-30 days before VAC bans are applied. this is why it appears nobody gets banned, but out of about 35 million players, about 5 million are VAC banned, that's quite significant amount. it works, but just not well enough.

There are some cheats which show you what cheats other players are using (the name of the cheats, modes, etc)

[penguing]

yeah idk honestly probably just bc valve doesnt have great anticheats

[Jo_Mei]

cheats can trick hardware and software , but never can trick human perception , thats why humans are best cheat detectors and allways will be.

the reason why any kind of added dynamic game difficulty balancing (DGDB) benefits cheaters, masking them and is destroying legit gameplay

because of DGDB players are cheated from two parties at the same time

[akiuara]

Originally posted by Jo_Mei:

cheats can trick hardware and software , but never can trick human perception , thats why humans are best cheat detectors and allways will be.

the reason why any kind of added dynamic game difficulty balancing (DGDB) benefits cheaters and is destroying legit gameplay

I agree with you bro, I hope they will give us OW. soon, so we can determine who is guilty or not gulity.

[Chiyoko]

Originally posted by Sweet Neko:

Some cheats can tell you if another player is cheating so you can be ready for them. Some features are anti aim, it forces there crosshair somewhere else when they try to aim at you

Because those cheats are connected to the cheat services which have cheaters databases. Cheats don't do this through the game itself.

And no, antiaim is moving the head behind your body by changing the camera angle so enemy's aimbot can't hit your head. That's why cheaters look back \ down to floor between shots.

[Jo_Mei]

Originally posted by Drum'n'Bass:

Originally posted by Sweet Neko:

Some cheats can tell you if another player is cheating so you can be ready for them. Some features are anti aim, it forces there crosshair somewhere else when they try to aim at you

Because those cheats are connected to the cheat services which have cheaters databases. Cheats don't do this through the game itself.

And no, antiaim is moving the head behind your body by changing the camera angle so enemy's aimbot can't hit your head. That's why cheaters look back \ down to floor between shots.

anti aim is very noticable by humans also , not so by any form of anticheat protection since cheaters using it get away with it no problem.

the reason cheaters are gaslighting all day long is to make players doubt their perception, just trust your perception.

and legit players should stop being offended being called cheaters , it just plays into real cheaters card , confusing playerbase even more .

what vac is really good at is spotting legit players

[FoTee7]

no way) it’s very difficult, but thank you

[akiuara]

Originally posted by KingpinX:

serious question valve. Been asking cheaters that i run into soloing, since some have cheats that detect other cheats.....they all laugh about vac.

Nahh, if cheater A has the same software with cheater B, they can detect each other but other software nahh, VAC can detect both cheater A and cheater B, we all know VAC is a reliable and a very strong anti-cheat.

[Xiiro]

Originally posted by Sweet Neko:

Originally posted by Sethioz:

what do you mean cheats that detect cheats? what does that even mean?

cheat = unfair advantage

you saying "there are unfair advantage to detect unfair advantage" .. like HUH?

as about VAC, you need to research on how VAC works. it runs on server side and it checks game memory and files integrity. if cheats don't make any modifications to game's memory nor files, then cheat cannot be detected by VAC.
such cheats are wallhacks / ESP, because they're read only. they read player location from game's memory, but don't make any modifications, therefore it cannot be detected by VAC.

it's also possible to read player locations from packets, in that case you can route your network via other PC and run cheat software on another PC and have extra monitor next to yours, so you can see where enemies are aka external radar hack.

also VAC bans are DELAYED and it takes 1-30 days before VAC bans are applied. this is why it appears nobody gets banned, but out of about 35 million players, about 5 million are VAC banned, that's quite significant amount. it works, but just not well enough.

Some cheats can tell you if another player is cheating so you can be ready for them. Some features are anti aim, it forces there crosshair somewhere else when they try to aim at you

How can you say stuff that is so wrong, so confidently.

[Xiiro]

Originally posted by Jo_Mei:

Originally posted by Drum'n'Bass:

Because those cheats are connected to the cheat services which have cheaters databases. Cheats don't do this through the game itself.

And no, antiaim is moving the head behind your body by changing the camera angle so enemy's aimbot can't hit your head. That's why cheaters look back \ down to floor between shots.

anti aim is very noticable by humans also , not so by any form of anticheat protection since cheaters using it get away with it no problem.

the reason cheaters are gaslighting all day long is to make players doubt their perception, just trust your perception.

and legit players should stop being offended being called cheaters , it just plays into real cheaters card , confusing playerbase even more .

what vac is really good at is spotting legit players

You dont get away with it no problem.
Pitch down AA, has lead to red trust and bans since a long time now.

[Jo_Mei]

Originally posted by Xiiro:

Originally posted by Sweet Neko:

Some cheats can tell you if another player is cheating so you can be ready for them. Some features are anti aim, it forces there crosshair somewhere else when they try to aim at you

How can you say stuff that is so wrong, so confidently.

how can u ask stuff that is so wrong , so confidently

[akiuara]

Originally posted by Xiiro:

Originally posted by Jo_Mei:

anti aim is very noticable by humans also , not so by any form of anticheat protection since cheaters using it get away with it no problem.

the reason cheaters are gaslighting all day long is to make players doubt their perception, just trust your perception.

and legit players should stop being offended being called cheaters , it just plays into real cheaters card , confusing playerbase even more .

what vac is really good at is spotting legit players

You dont get away with it no problem.
Pitch down AA, has lead to red trust and bans since a long time now.

I agree, pitch down AA is detected while pitch up AA is not detected but mark my words VAC will ban those cheaters, I support Yang = White.