Time to damage in leetify stats

[elite outsider]

This was already talked about but I want to emphasize it again

https://leetify.com/blog/public-data-library/#viz1713465582843

This shows the players' time to damage in stats they collected.

The graph starts off with "Rating: All". Change the dropdown button to set it to all the rating buckets (1k-5k, 5k-10k etc). They all have the same shape except ">25k", where it's extremely skewed. Apparently the best players all have 100-200ms time to damage.

That's like "human reaction time +- ping". The graph "flips" completely when you go from 20k to 25k.

Do you see how obviously that confirms all the highest ELO players are aimbotting?

[Dolls of Valen]

Salt

[grog]

They don't aimbot they are just skilled player

[elite outsider]

Not very good replies but okay, I understand how these things go :}

[hYpe]

Originally posted by elite outsider:

Not very good replies but okay, I understand how these things go :}

most of your replies will be from people who troll for a living xd
you can see thousands of accounts posting in forums every day but mostly see the same ones saying the same things :P

[elite outsider]

Originally posted by hYpe:

Originally posted by elite outsider:

Not very good replies but okay, I understand how these things go :}

most of your replies will be from people who troll for a living xd
you can see thousands of accounts posting in forums every day but mostly see the same ones saying the same things :P

i know. it's just cool if a few actual people see this and it clicks for them

[hYpe]

Originally posted by elite outsider:

Originally posted by hYpe:

most of your replies will be from people who troll for a living xd
you can see thousands of accounts posting in forums every day but mostly see the same ones saying the same things :P

i know. it's just cool if a few actual people see this and it clicks for them

i mean we all know, every legit player thinks the same :P it's just funny how much time they can waste doing this, they spend more time in these forums than people with a 9 to 5 job lol

[grog]

Originally posted by elite outsider:

Not very good replies but okay, I understand how these things go :}

Why not good reply? It's my Opinions

[hYpe]

Originally posted by create joy:

Originally posted by elite outsider:

Not very good replies but okay, I understand how these things go :}

Why not good reply? It's my Opinions

it's your job* non profit job xd

[grog]

Originally posted by hYpe:

Originally posted by create joy:

Why not good reply? It's my Opinions

it's your job* non profit job xd

What U mean?

[Hamsterpeek]

Not at 20-25k, but at 18k.
https://www.reddit.com/r/cs2/comments/1dewupq/the_flashbang_stats_for_may_is_out/
This proves it even better than your stat.

[elite outsider]

I guess maybe.. did you catch the part where the distribution changes completely from the 20k band to the 25k band? I specifically pointed that out because it's important..

[Kyle the Karrot]

I mean, that could be the case. Also consider that skill gaps exist in games. High elo players tend to be significantly better than mid-high elo in almost all competitive games, you could be right but it's unlikely.

[elite outsider]

Originally posted by Kingchung07:

I mean, that could be the case. Also consider that skill gaps exist in games. High elo players tend to be significantly better than mid-high elo in almost all competitive games, you could be right but it's unlikely.

think about what consistent 0-200ms time to damage means, though

do you see how the shape of the graph (the distribution of TTD vs rank) is the same shape for every group of people except the 25k+ ?
suddenly you get into 25k+ and they're basically all super short TTD

regarding the flashbang stuff:
- yeah it shows they don't bother using flashes (for 2 reasons: don't need them to win fights, opponents aren't really being flashed anyway)
- on the other hand, you could recreate the same thing by having all players boycott using flashbangs. you can't recreate "vast majority of players have 0-200ms damage time" without aimbotting :}
- so to me that means "distribution of TTD vs rating" is a stronger stat than "use of flashes vs TTD"

[elite outsider]

so anyway..one takeaway is there's rampant cheating, you can detect it by the super low TTD

and it translates into the rankings because obviously people cheating consistently win a lot and rise in rank (duh!)

but the other takeaway is you could start measuring TTD at all ranks (if you were valve) and use it as a proxy for indicating aimbotting

instead of detecting spinning and banning people who are screwing around at spawn not even shooting, try detecting 0-100ms TTD and see who you find! "irregular gameplay" indeed..

it's way easier than actually detecting aimbotting, way more accurate than a deep learning machine that's trained on 95% meaningless noise data, can't be gamed like overwatch... you get the idea

if cheaters are forced to raise their TTD they're basically reducing the impact of their cheats, even if you didn't get rid of them. that's cool too..?

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