Is my PC too old?

[Justintjee]

I was wondering why my CS gameplay became so terrible, people shooting me before they have peaked their corners, my bullets not registering on them because they are apparently not where they are on my screen. and a lot of the time it feels like im actually half a second behind everyone else.


I use Windows 10 PRO 64bit

I got AMD Ryzen 5 2600X @3.6 GHz (44c-80c under load)

i got 16GB Dualchannel @1063MHz (15-15-15-36)

i got a ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A (AM4) Motherboard

i got a AGON AG241QG (2560x1440@144Hz) Monitor which is plugged in with a display
port instead of a HDMI for the 144hz rate instead of 59.9hz

i got a second monitor just for youtube/discord which is always on but never active during gaming besides showing the discord call, Samsung SyncMaster (1920x1080@60Hz)

i got a 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (MSI) graphics card but in taskmanager it says it has 8GB of VRAM instead.

and my CS + STEAM is downloaded on my 238GB GIGABYTE GP-GSM2NE3256GNTD SolidState Drive.

Are my PC parts too old? or are they not supposed to hit 80-90 celcius while playing CS, at this point i don't even know.

[Admiral]

This setup is kinda barebones minimum for CS2. And no game should hit temperatures that high. You might want to check your thermal paste and your cooling solution overall.

Also your RAM timings. WTF? Are you sure you're running it @ 1063MT/s and not 2xxxMT/s?

[Justintjee]

Originally posted by Admiral ♥♥♥♥:

This setup is kinda barebones minimum for CS2. And no game should hit temperatures that high. You might want to check your thermal paste and your cooling solution overall.

Also your RAM timings. WTF? Are you sure you're running it @ 1063MT/s and not 2xxxMT/s?

I legit have no idea why it gets so hot, theres thermalpaste, i have like 5-6 fans in my pc and my pc is elevated and not on the floor.

I copied all these stats from SPECCY which shows everything in depth and detail, These are the full stats it shows me about my RAM:

[Justintjee]

My ram is currently like this:
Total memory slots 4
Used memory slots 2
Free memory slots 2
Memory
Type Unknown
Size 16384 MBytes
Channels # Dual
DRAM Frequency 1064.1 MHz
CAS# Latency (CL) 15 clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) 15 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 15 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 36 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 51 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 1T
Physical Memory
Memory Usage 50 %
Total Physical 16 GB
Available Physical 7.93 GB
Total Virtual 29 GB
Available Virtual 17 GB
SPD
Number Of SPD Modules 2
Slot #1
Type Unknown
Size 8192 MBytes
Manufacturer Corsair
Max Bandwidth DDR4-2132 (1066 MHz)
Part Number CMK16GX4M2B3000C15
SPD Ext. XMP


The JEDEC #1 to #8 are all between 650 and 1066.1 but it slowly goes up as the # goes up. at 9-16 CAS latency, RAS#-To-CAS# is at 9-17.

On the timing table my XMP-2998is set to 1499mhz

[Admiral]

Originally posted by Justintjee:

Originally posted by Admiral ♥♥♥♥:

This setup is kinda barebones minimum for CS2. And no game should hit temperatures that high. You might want to check your thermal paste and your cooling solution overall.

Also your RAM timings. WTF? Are you sure you're running it @ 1063MT/s and not 2xxxMT/s?

I legit have no idea why it gets so hot, theres thermalpaste, i have like 5-6 fans in my pc and my pc is elevated and not on the floor

Bad CPU cooler then. No game should push CPU to run 90 degrees of celcius. Not even 80c in most cases.

Seriously what's the deal with your RAM timings? How can they be so high while your RAM speed is so low?!

EDIT: Oh, I get it now. Nevermind.

EDIT2: This is the correct way: "DDR4-2133".

[Justintjee]

Originally posted by Admiral ♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Justintjee:

I legit have no idea why it gets so hot, theres thermalpaste, i have like 5-6 fans in my pc and my pc is elevated and not on the floor

Bad CPU cooler then. No game should push CPU to run 90 degrees of celcius. Not even 80c in most cases.

Seriously what's the deal with your RAM timings? How can they be so high while your RAM speed is so low?!

I'm sorry but i have edited some of my messages and i hope that might clear it up quite a bit?

[Admiral]

TLDR: CS2 is pretty CPU/GPU hungry beast even though it's graphics look like they are from 2010. You could buy a second hand CPU and GPU. It would make it somewhat better but don't expect miracles.

[Justintjee]

i just read your Edits, Is my RAM the way it should be? or do i need to somehow change it's settings in the bios menu of the PC?

aside from that i will try and relocate my computer and that might cool it a little more?
i am using the stock cooler i believe on the cpu and i have actually overclocked my fans to their max in the bios already previously. Thanks for the info and i'll try and see if i can ever find a combo upgrade that works because if i get a different cpu it wont fit on this board and then the gpu and the ram suffer the same domino effect.

[Admiral]

Originally posted by Justintjee:

i just read your Edits, Is my RAM the way it should be? or do i need to somehow change it's settings in the bios menu of the PC?

aside from that i will try and relocate my computer and that might cool it a little more?
i am using the stock cooler i believe on the cpu and i have actually overclocked my fans to their max in the bios already previously. Thanks for the info and i'll try and see if i can ever find a combo upgrade that works because if i get a different cpu it wont fit on this board and then the gpu and the ram suffer the same domino effect.

The stock coolers tend to be somewhat crappy. So don't expect to get significantly better results by relocating your case or by opening the side panels.

Back to the RAM: You could check BIOS and make sure your RAM is set to it's max speed/EXPO*. I got confused by the way you reported** your RAM speed. I'm pretty sure it's set properly though.

*EXPO is AMD's equivalent to Intel's XMP.

**Your RAM should be 2133MT/s but many of the HWinfo softwares report it as 2133/2 which is roughly 1063 hence the confusion.

[Sethioz]

Originally posted by Justintjee:

I was wondering why my CS gameplay became so terrible, people shooting me before they have peaked their corners, my bullets not registering on them because they are apparently not where they are on my screen. and a lot of the time it feels like im actually half a second behind everyone else.


I use Windows 10 PRO 64bit

I got AMD Ryzen 5 2600X @3.6 GHz (44c-80c under load)

i got 16GB Dualchannel @1063MHz (15-15-15-36)

i got a ASUSTeK PRIME B450M-A (AM4) Motherboard

i got a AGON AG241QG (2560x1440@144Hz) Monitor which is plugged in with a display
port instead of a HDMI for the 144hz rate instead of 59.9hz

i got a second monitor just for youtube/discord which is always on but never active during gaming besides showing the discord call, Samsung SyncMaster (1920x1080@60Hz)

i got a 4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (MSI) graphics card but in taskmanager it says it has 8GB of VRAM instead.

and my CS + STEAM is downloaded on my 238GB GIGABYTE GP-GSM2NE3256GNTD SolidState Drive.

Are my PC parts too old? or are they not supposed to hit 80-90 celcius while playing CS, at this point i don't even know.

your PC specs have nothing to do with the issues you described.
why do people think that old pc = broken game?

playing on older PC, will only result in lower framerate, that's all.

I have GTX 1080 8gb vram aswell and i run cs2 in 1440p 60fps and GPU usage is only like 20-30%. it's taking a nap and temps are below 55c

if your temps are between 80-90c, then it simply means you have bad case cooling or bad heatsink on graphics card. i have MSI gamingX GTX 1080, it has 2 large fans and i have never seen it go over 65c, even when 100% load with hot weather (35c ambient).

hits not registering is known issue, i made a video on it while ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs26M9sGlqk

i think it's because of their "sub-tick" system that is suppose to make it more fair to those who have higher ping, but as result it makes it worse for those who have lower ping.
i occasionally still get those moments, never had it happen in csgo tho.

if you feel like you're "behind" of what is happening, that's 100% internet issue. analyze your network and measure your ping to different places, such as google, youtube and steam.
most people do a speedtest and say "i have good internet", but that means nothing. speedtest uses multiple connections and closest server, that doesn't indicate you have good internet.
you have to analyze your connection while playing and see how your ping is outside game, cuz ingame ping is only average and it updates every 10 seconds or so. it won't show you lag spikes.

[SquaredJesus]

Who cares??? You bought an obvious cheat account, use whatever it's not like you're playing the game

[HYPE]

It's the limit on low end setups tbh

[Admiral]

Originally posted by Oyun Arşivim:

Use ''fps_limit 144'' for better gaming temperatures.
or use ''fps_limit 120''

Your system is not old, no.

In PC world 12 year old system is actually considered pretty old.

[boy]

Originally posted by Admiral ♥♥♥♥:

Originally posted by Oyun Arşivim:

Use ''fps_limit 144'' for better gaming temperatures.
or use ''fps_limit 120''

Your system is not old, no.

In PC world 12 year old system is actually considered pretty old.

12?

[peon]

Even a i5 9400 isnt enough for this game.

Its definitely a cpu intensive game. I notice alot of freezing as people are coming into my crosshair.

Im thinking there are some serious gamechecks happening and this is what is causing ♥♥♥♥ to freeze when people are aiming and shooting, if your cpu doesnt have the single core output to deal with it. I dont think having more cores is going to do anything.

Something definitely broke with this game.

Also 90degrees celcius is a little high (maybe clean the dust out of the cpu heatsink), but its well within parameters. AMD cpus are bad for hitting high temps real quick due to the layout on the chip.

This temperature limit is known as TJ Max, a figure which represents the maximum allowable temperature of the thermal junction. Most CPUs have a maximum allowable temperature between 95C and 110C, but usually the max is 100C. Under idle or light CPU loads, the temperature should not approach this.

Quite a few opinions on this, but ive never heard of a cpu throttling at 90degrees. The old pentium 2 chips ran hotter than that. But I guess 95 is high for a AMD chip?

For your chip 95 is the max, so 90 is within parameters, especially if its under a 100% load.

[Justintjee]

Originally posted by SquaredJesus:

Who cares??? You bought an obvious cheat account, use whatever it's not like you're playing the game

What?? Haha