The silence at Valve on 10% of their playerbase cheating is deafening.

[RaisingAgent]

The silence at Valve on 10% of their playerbase cheating is deafening.

[onemeow]

Percents taken out of the butt?

[RaisingAgent]

Originally posted by onemeow:

Percents taken out of the butt?

Good question, the answer is no. Further reading: https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3879344463511842997/

[onemeow]

How do you get 10% out of this? Try to use logic, and you will understand that yours 10% is a bs.

[RaisingAgent]

Originally posted by onemeow:

How do you get 10% out of this? Try to use logic, and you will understand that yours 10% is a bs.

I disagree.

[onemeow]

Originally posted by RaisingAgentb:

Originally posted by onemeow:

How do you get 10% out of this? Try to use logic, and you will understand that yours 10% is a bs.

I disagree.

10% of cheaters means that every game have at least 1 cheater. That is bs. Real percent is less than 1%.

[󠁳]

Originally posted by RaisingAgentb:

Good question, the answer is no. Further reading: https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3879344463511842997/

Bad source.
It tracked 31.5M accounts 4.5M of which got banned.
The site is tracking accounts since 2016, so for 8 years already.
How many accounts an average cheater could use for those 8 years you think?

If you want to get a more real percentage of banned accounts, you get there:
https://csstats.gg/vac-stats-2022

764k bans for a year.
So 63k bans per month in average.
In 2022 CS:GO had slightly lower playerbase than CS2 has now (over 25M monthly players), so probably 20M monthly players in CS:GO is close to true value.

63k banned accounts per month from 20M monthly players is 0.32%.
But those are only tracked and only banned (detected) cheaters. So the real value is higher.
But it is definitely not even close to 15%, and not even to 10%.

[RaisingAgent]

Originally posted by onemeow:

Originally posted by RaisingAgentb:

I disagree.

10% of cheaters means that every game have at least 1 cheater. That is bs. Real percent is less than 1%.

You probably play at much lower ranks, and have therefore don't see as many or - more likely - don't realize when someone is wallhacking.

Personally, I experience an *obvious* cheater in about 60% of my games and since I usually 5-man queue that comes out to 17%. Additionally to that, we have statistics about A) The number of accounts which own Counter Strike, and B) the amount of accounts banned for cheating.

So just because you can't do math, doesn't change the facts.

[Sethioz]

Originally posted by onemeow:

Percents taken out of the butt?

ever heard of search engines, such as google, duckduckgo, yahoo?
use them to do research.

according to csstats there are 31.5mil players and 4.5mil are banned. that's 14.2%
those are only the ones who have used some public cheats, most cheaters are using private or premium paid cheats.
i think at least 30% are cheating.

just now had a match and ofc enemy has obvious wallhacker

[onemeow]

Originally posted by RaisingAgentb:

Originally posted by onemeow:

10% of cheaters means that every game have at least 1 cheater. That is bs. Real percent is less than 1%.

You probably play at much lower ranks, and have therefore don't see as many or - more likely - don't realize when someone is wallhacking.

Personally, I experience an *obvious* cheater in about 60% of my games and since I usually 5-man queue that comes out to 17%. Additionally to that, we have statistics about A) The number of accounts which own Counter Strike, and B) the amount of accounts banned for cheating.

So just because you can't do math, doesn't change the facts.

I am playing at 15k premier, and there is no cheaters for sure. I've seen only 2 cheaters from the start of cs2 release. I believe they could play on rangs higher than 20k. But your issue is probably skill related, and you accuse every player better than you in cheating. Or, you have a bad trust.

[onemeow]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by onemeow:

Percents taken out of the butt?

ever heard of search engines, such as google, duckduckgo, yahoo?
use them to do research.

according to csstats there are 31.5mil players and 4.5mil are banned. that's 14.2%
those are only the ones who have used some public cheats, most cheaters are using private or premium paid cheats.
i think at least 30% are cheating.

just now had a match and ofc enemy has obvious wallhacker

4.5mil banned for 12 years? Do you realize that one cheater could have hundreds accounts in 12 years, or you was skipping math classes?

[Brun0]

Cheating is bad

[RaisingAgent]

Originally posted by Howa:

63k banned accounts per month from 20M monthly players is 0.32%.

That's not how anything works, look up "apples to oranges" on a search engine of your choice.

Originally posted by Howa:

764k bans for a year.

Since we actually don't have good data on MAU, a number more close to 10 million players, even by best estimates (average players * average session time), that comes out to somwhere in the mid single digit percent of accounts *banned* per year.

Yet we still see cheaters in every second game i.e. accounts that are NOT BANNED. Therefore we can only conclude that there is a SUBSTANTIAL amount of accounts cheating: in the double digit percent.

[RaisingAgent]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

according to csstats there are 31.5mil players and 4.5mil are banned. that's 14.2%
those are only the ones who have used some public cheats, most cheaters are using private or premium paid cheats.
i think at least 30% are cheating.

this^ (altough my best estimate is lower than 30%)

[Bandit]

low trust cope lol

[youngdirty]

Talking about it would not help.