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Crashing every round/game in CS2 with i9-14900k and RTX 4090, any solution?
I have uninstalled everything to try only with steam and CS and neither.
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Super Hans 28 Nov 2024 @ 11:47pm 
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How hungry for voltage are Intel chips? I can make my amd chip run stable at 1.2v at faster oc speeds and it's 30C cooler. it doesn't hit above 70C

I doubt you can run your chip at 5.7ghz on 1.2 volts. That's impossible.


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Why do people buy Intel chips (which usually are more expensive) that pull higher voltages and then they burn them out by letting them hit temps too high with overclocks?

Intel sure has some questionable "traits". And one is ridiculously high boost clock speeds - which need more voltage to be stable.


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Idk unless someone is a fan boy for the company, that seems like lowering the lifespan of that cpu and also increasing your electricity bill.

Might as well literally burn money at that point.

Whatever the chip is, just if it's pulling 1.4v+, undervolt it by 0.2v ( or as much as possible whilst keeping it stable*) for the love of god and then just adjust ram timings and frequency to balance out the oc as needed.

Undervolting modern intel is kinda "the meta". It's crazy how a chip sized of a box of matchsticks will draw 250+ Watts. New i7's and i9's (13th-14th gen especially) basically need either high end air cooler and case cooling OR an AIO. Nothing less will cool these chips if you want all the performance out of them. The performance you paid for.

Most Intels will take ~100mV undervolt even after the new microcode/bios updates - which were to address the voltage levels.

Now, if I'd only use my PC for gaming then it would be no brainer to go with AMD.
BUT however I use my PC for productivity tasks as well and AMDs are infamously bad at these types of things. In some basic tasks Intels are 3-4 times faster. So if rendering something would take ~20 minutes on Intel chip already I wouldn't want to do it on AMD.

The whole Intel vs AMD could be put in a nutshell like this: If you game, go with AMD. If you do heavy lifting and productivity, go with Intel. I do both, so my choice was Intel and from the day one I undervolted my chip, set proper power limits, current limits and I still have no crashes and no weird behaviour. This whole Intel's degradation/chips destroying themselves fiasco was so bad. I hope they learned something.
Terakhir diedit oleh Super Hans; 28 Nov 2024 @ 11:54pm
KRATI 28 Nov 2024 @ 11:57pm 
if u have 13th or 14th gen intel, then update ur bios up to 0x12B microcode

I have stable CS2 with AC LL 0.01 on 13700k and 6000mhz ddr5 ziro blyat problem
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skOsH♥ 29 Nov 2024 @ 8:14am 
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How hungry for voltage are Intel chips? I can make my amd chip run stable at 1.2v at faster oc speeds and it's 30C cooler. it doesn't hit above 70C

I doubt you can run your chip at 5.7ghz on 1.2 volts. That's impossible.


Diposting pertama kali oleh skOsH:
Why do people buy Intel chips (which usually are more expensive) that pull higher voltages and then they burn them out by letting them hit temps too high with overclocks?

Intel sure has some questionable "traits". And one is ridiculously high boost clock speeds - which need more voltage to be stable.


Diposting pertama kali oleh skOsH:
Idk unless someone is a fan boy for the company, that seems like lowering the lifespan of that cpu and also increasing your electricity bill.

Might as well literally burn money at that point.

Whatever the chip is, just if it's pulling 1.4v+, undervolt it by 0.2v ( or as much as possible whilst keeping it stable*) for the love of god and then just adjust ram timings and frequency to balance out the oc as needed.

Undervolting modern intel is kinda "the meta". It's crazy how a chip sized of a box of matchsticks will draw 250+ Watts. New i7's and i9's (13th-14th gen especially) basically need either high end air cooler and case cooling OR an AIO. Nothing less will cool these chips if you want all the performance out of them. The performance you paid for.

Most Intels will take ~100mV undervolt even after the new microcode/bios updates - which were to address the voltage levels.

Now, if I'd only use my PC for gaming then it would be no brainer to go with AMD.
BUT however I use my PC for productivity tasks as well and AMDs are infamously bad at these types of things. In some basic tasks Intels are 3-4 times faster. So if rendering something would take ~20 minutes on Intel chip already I wouldn't want to do it on AMD.

The whole Intel vs AMD could be put in a nutshell like this: If you game, go with AMD. If you do heavy lifting and productivity, go with Intel. I do both, so my choice was Intel and from the day one I undervolted my chip, set proper power limits, current limits and I still have no crashes and no weird behaviour. This whole Intel's degradation/chips destroying themselves fiasco was so bad. I hope they learned something.

My chip has maximum clock speed of 5550Mhz. I can run that at 1.25v. Due to the ability for the processor to now run its cores more efficiently (thank you AMT for the newest bios updates), it does just fine of a job at a lower clock speed with 1.2. I stress tested it a bunch and compared to the previous bios update I was running and my fixing the push/pull configuration, it actually seemingly "unlocked" more of the processor. So...whatever AMT did on around 17 November, they improved amd performance for sure....and I don't even have an x3D. Don't seem to need one.

Or I can run an overclock of about 5325Mhz at 1.2v that I cannot tell any difference in speed, but it consumes less voltage and runs cooler.

Edit: I really don't understand the need to carry the processor up to 5.7GHz when those gains aren't actually enough to carry something like a 4090 going full throttle, so it's wasted energy

If someone really wanted max gains out of a 4090 and properly carry it, I think they would need to hit roughly 6ghz or more, at that point water cooling would be pointless unless its custom loop with specially shaped block. so idk why anyone is trying to go for certain oc speeds that aren't going to help them.

Just find a happy medium. A good overclock isn't...max out the cpu, max out gpu, max out ram...its finding the sweet spot due to ram timings and the bclk needing to be reasonable to be fast but also responsive.

I mean it's cs2 it likes to generate a ton of frames...maxing out the oc on the cpu is not as beneficial as finding out the speed that works optimally between the cpu and gpu, with the ram timings set to properly mediate all of that
Terakhir diedit oleh skOsH♥; 29 Nov 2024 @ 8:21am
Super Hans 29 Nov 2024 @ 1:08pm 
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Or I can run an overclock of about 5325Mhz at 1.2v that I cannot tell any difference in speed, but it consumes less voltage and runs cooler.

Ah I think I misunderstood. I somehow thought you had fixed 1.2 volts. My i7 13700K sits cool @ 5.3ghz running on 1.15-1.2 volts. Of course the voltage jumps higher when CPU is in idle because loadline and stuff.

Carry on.
Terakhir diedit oleh Super Hans; 29 Nov 2024 @ 1:09pm
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