I can't get out of silver 1 hell

[Saltz]

For 6-7 games in a row, I was top scoring all of them, having a 3.0 to 4.0 kd, having multiple MVP awards and being a team leader by saying to my teammates where to go, still in silver 1 hell, what do I need to do to go to at least silver 2, do our lord and saviour wants me to buy some overpriced pixels.... I mean reasonably priced skins? I need to dank answers

[Demi-Fiend from Shin]

git gud

[GroZZleR]

K/D means nothing. Winning rounds means everything and getting round MVP matters as well.

[Miles (Tails) Prower]

You just stuck in a ELO hell, that's all.

Read this at update 3 section, it might be your question here:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=russian&id=312582297

[Saltz]

Originally posted by generic_sn:

dude im stuck in bronze pls help

That's a tough one, you'll need to ask to a real professional for this kind of thing

[Miles (Tails) Prower]

Originally posted by Mr.Jerky-Convoy:

Originally posted by Mr.Jerky-Convoy:

For 6-7 games in a row, I was top scoring all of them, having a 3.0 to 4.0 kd, having multiple MVP awards and being a team leader by saying to my teammates where to go, still in silver 1 hell, what do I need to do to go to at least silver 2, do our lord and saviour wants me to buy some overpriced pixels.... I mean reasonably priced skins? I need to dank answers

Ok, if you didn't want to read, then I guess I can't explain that for you. Quoting:

Originally posted by UPDATE 3 - Silver Elo Hell Dilemma:

There has been a lot of controversy circling around what's known as Elo Hell. What is Elo Hell? It's basically the idea that you can be stuck in a lower Rank (usually Silver-spectrum) and have a really hard time climbing up even though your true skill is a lot better. In other words, you can be stuck in Silver for a very long time while winning and top-fragging most of your games without ranking up.

While it is very possible (and somehow likely to happen), you need to bear in mind that it can only be caused by having an incredibly low K Factor. You can read UPDATE 2 to find out more about K factor. But K Factor is like a two-sided blade, although it makes it harder for you to rank-up, it also makes it harder for you to de-rank as a result. What most people that claim to be stuck in Silver Elo Hell tend to overlook is the fact that it's also relatively difficult for them to derank too.

The more win count you gain (losses come with increased count too, naturally), the lower your K factor goes resulting in a more stable rank. Stable means that you will need to win more for a rank-up and lose more for a de-rank. K factor limits the maximum amount of Elo Points (Hidden MMR) you can gain OR lose after each game (game in total, or after each round result). If you perform extraordinarily good during a single match, and perform good at the next, you are still bound by your K Factor. You can't gain more points than your K Factor, no matter how great you perform. Same can be applied to performing bad (and losing). Most Silvers get mad when they're on a long Win Streak without ranking up but they fail to remember that they have also been on a very long Loss Streak without deranking.

So in a sense, Elo Hell doesn't exist literally because a low K Factor can also be beneficial (slowing your derank process). So why is it only noticeable at Silver level? It can happen at any rank, because the K factor which is causing it is independent of your points. Silver simply care too much about a visual badge on their CSGO Profile that they go ahead and whine about it a lot while higher ranks tend to concentrate on actually improving their skill without paying attention to their visual rank. Another reason could be the fact that people could be put into Silver group with a very low K Factor but it can't happen at higher ranks which I'll explain in the next paragraph.

A low win percentage results in a low K Factor. Players that get put into Silver Skill Group after their placement matches would most likely have very low Win Percentage and rises very slowly over time, therefore contributing towards the slow progress rate. Bear in mind that winning 10 placement matches and losing 10 (50% win percentage) will hand you the same K Factor as winning 1000 and losing 1000. This might lead to confusion that if that's true, how can a higher Win COUNT (not percentage) lead to a more stable rank? The answer is simple: When someone has played many games, his K Factor will be decided by his Win Percentage which will then affect his personal assessment during each match. In other words, maintaining a high Win Percentage will cause you to Rank-Up AND De-Rank faster, nothing more. But you should also know that it's all connected, you can't have a high win percentage by losing most of your games and vice versa.

So how does this information help? It doesn't help at all. Because it can't be manipulated or used to your advantage. K Factor is like a small wagon of a huge train, you can't ride the wagon without moving the train. This information will help clarify the "Elo Hell" discussion for good. It still doesn't change the fact that after a lot of wins (+300), your current skill group will show your current true skill with an extremely high accuracy.

[Saltz]

Originally posted by Miles (Tails) Prower:

Originally posted by Mr.Jerky-Convoy:

Ok, if you didn't want to read, then I guess I can't explain that for you. Quoting:

Originally posted by UPDATE 3 - Silver Elo Hell Dilemma:

There has been a lot of controversy circling around what's known as Elo Hell. What is Elo Hell? It's basically the idea that you can be stuck in a lower Rank (usually Silver-spectrum) and have a really hard time climbing up even though your true skill is a lot better. In other words, you can be stuck in Silver for a very long time while winning and top-fragging most of your games without ranking up.

While it is very possible (and somehow likely to happen), you need to bear in mind that it can only be caused by having an incredibly low K Factor. You can read UPDATE 2 to find out more about K factor. But K Factor is like a two-sided blade, although it makes it harder for you to rank-up, it also makes it harder for you to de-rank as a result. What most people that claim to be stuck in Silver Elo Hell tend to overlook is the fact that it's also relatively difficult for them to derank too.

The more win count you gain (losses come with increased count too, naturally), the lower your K factor goes resulting in a more stable rank. Stable means that you will need to win more for a rank-up and lose more for a de-rank. K factor limits the maximum amount of Elo Points (Hidden MMR) you can gain OR lose after each game (game in total, or after each round result). If you perform extraordinarily good during a single match, and perform good at the next, you are still bound by your K Factor. You can't gain more points than your K Factor, no matter how great you perform. Same can be applied to performing bad (and losing). Most Silvers get mad when they're on a long Win Streak without ranking up but they fail to remember that they have also been on a very long Loss Streak without deranking.

So in a sense, Elo Hell doesn't exist literally because a low K Factor can also be beneficial (slowing your derank process). So why is it only noticeable at Silver level? It can happen at any rank, because the K factor which is causing it is independent of your points. Silver simply care too much about a visual badge on their CSGO Profile that they go ahead and whine about it a lot while higher ranks tend to concentrate on actually improving their skill without paying attention to their visual rank. Another reason could be the fact that people could be put into Silver group with a very low K Factor but it can't happen at higher ranks which I'll explain in the next paragraph.

A low win percentage results in a low K Factor. Players that get put into Silver Skill Group after their placement matches would most likely have very low Win Percentage and rises very slowly over time, therefore contributing towards the slow progress rate. Bear in mind that winning 10 placement matches and losing 10 (50% win percentage) will hand you the same K Factor as winning 1000 and losing 1000. This might lead to confusion that if that's true, how can a higher Win COUNT (not percentage) lead to a more stable rank? The answer is simple: When someone has played many games, his K Factor will be decided by his Win Percentage which will then affect his personal assessment during each match. In other words, maintaining a high Win Percentage will cause you to Rank-Up AND De-Rank faster, nothing more. But you should also know that it's all connected, you can't have a high win percentage by losing most of your games and vice versa.

So how does this information help? It doesn't help at all. Because it can't be manipulated or used to your advantage. K Factor is like a small wagon of a huge train, you can't ride the wagon without moving the train. This information will help clarify the "Elo Hell" discussion for good. It still doesn't change the fact that after a lot of wins (+300), your current skill group will show your current true skill with an extremely high accuracy.

I was reading, I read 100 words per second, I call myself the *super intellectual person of wisdom and fortune* anyway, I had the discussion page and the guide open at the same time, I was also editing what I said because I missed something, then you posted the guide

[AlP]

Yes, you must buy some knives to become Silver 2.

[Saltz]

Originally posted by AlP:

Yes, you must buy some knives to become Silver 2.

Should I buy a 5000$ knife? That'll make me go into Global Elite yes?

[AlP]

Originally posted by Mr.Jerky-Convoy:

Originally posted by AlP:

Yes, you must buy some knives to become Silver 2.

Should I buy a 5000$ knife? That'll make me go into Global Elite yes?

Yes, you'll be the best player.

[Softspokenman]

all these players rushing to get owned in higher levels lol

[✪Atom]

Originally posted by Miles (Tails) Prower:

You just stuck in a ELO hell, that's all.

Read this at update 3 section, it might be your question here:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?l=russian&id=312582297

Valve doesn't use ELO
Valve uses a heavily editted version of Glicko2

[Jo_Mei]

u are lucky i cant even get into silver

[Miles (Tails) Prower]

What's with the necro this days? I have like 4 of them on a past 2 days.

[Pro Silver 1 ®]

I'm Silver 3, but is very hard at this level, i keep getting headshotted with one bullet when enemy moving, need to buy a second account when the next sale occurs, to smurf at Silver 1, at my rank it's too hard.

[Saltz]

Why the hell are you people even here