Counter-Strike 2

Counter-Strike 2

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Espa Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:22am
Why is CS2 or CS:GO worse than CZ or CS 1.6?
There were simply no problems back then. Today, constant crashes. Sometimes there are already problems when you just want to connect with your friends, or it takes 20 seconds. What takes so long?

Newer versions should be better than the old ones
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󠁳⁧⁧ boii Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:23am 
Originally posted by Espa:
There were simply no problems back then. Today, constant crashes. Sometimes there are already problems when you just want to connect with your friends, or it takes 20 seconds. What takes so long?

Newer versions should be better than the old ones
your pc is trash, that might be the issue.
i never had a single problem with cs2 since its out of beta(beside the fact it cant utilize core0 without microstutter, which is fixable)
Jo_Mei Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:24am 
cs became bloatware, more and more tasks silently runnng in background eating up resources like
cheats, statistics, trustfactor, deep learning , to name a few
Last edited by Jo_Mei; Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:30am
AlphaZeroX96 Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:31am 
For me, Condition Zero is the best game in the series.
MAXE Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:42am 
Originally posted by Jo_Mei:
cs became bloatware, more and more tasks silently runnng in background eating up resources like
cheats, statistics, trustfactor, deep learning , to name a few

If it was effective to keep cheaters out of the game, then i wouldnt mind .. but the issue is that there has never been so many cheaters in the multiplayer games as now !

We need a anticheat solution that punish the cheaters instant and then we need something that can keep them out for good e.g. personal id, creditcard, gamer license?

Originally posted by SaviorAssassin1996:
For me, Condition Zero is the best game in the series.

For me it was CS 1.4 ( No source ) build on the quake engine from id software .. back in 1999

So if we could get the gameplay & the gameclient back to that point so the game would become a fast paced shooter again .. then it would be awesome for the fps players !

I mean the quickswitch between the weapons dont even work anymore .. and the developers have added movement penalty on regular hits, so people cannot get away in time anymore, that was something that was only added to granades, shotguns and other heavy weapons.. not normal pistols, rifle´s or the subguns !

Last edited by MAXE; Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:48am
Espa Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by tormentor 󠁳⁧⁧ 1337:
Originally posted by Espa:
There were simply no problems back then. Today, constant crashes. Sometimes there are already problems when you just want to connect with your friends, or it takes 20 seconds. What takes so long?

Newer versions should be better than the old ones
your pc is trash, that might be the issue.
i never had a single problem with cs2 since its out of beta(beside the fact it cant utilize core0 without microstutter, which is fixable)
No, my PC is good enough. Besides, this is just Counter Strike and not an HD super game. It should just be sporty and reliable.
󠁳⁧⁧ boii Nov 25, 2023 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Espa:
Originally posted by tormentor 󠁳⁧⁧ 1337:
your pc is trash, that might be the issue.
i never had a single problem with cs2 since its out of beta(beside the fact it cant utilize core0 without microstutter, which is fixable)
No, my PC is good enough. Besides, this is just Counter Strike and not an HD super game. It should just be sporty and reliable.
shows that you have 0 clue at all dude
Espa Nov 25, 2023 @ 12:12pm 
Originally posted by 󠁳:
Originally posted by Espa:
No, my PC is good enough. Besides, this is just Counter Strike and not an HD super game. It should just be sporty and reliable.
shows that you have 0 clue at all dude
What do you mean? What clue am I missing?
Since when do you need a clue to play Counter Strike?
Last edited by Espa; Nov 25, 2023 @ 12:17pm
󠁳⁧⁧ boii Nov 25, 2023 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by Espa:
Originally posted by 󠁳:
shows that you have 0 clue at all dude
What do you mean? What clue am I missing?
Since when do you need a clue to play Counter Strike?
"this is just Counter Strike and not an HD super game. It should just be sporty and reliable"
Coffee Nov 25, 2023 @ 12:43pm 
They weren't better. I started playing in 1.3. Nostalgia is BS. If you played those earlier versions now you would see how far the game has come. Today earlier versions would look worse than Battlebit remastered in comparison.
The game has always had a problem with cheating. This isn't something that has just arisen when CSGO was released. The only thing that was better back in the day was the huge amount of community maps available to play and that looks like it might be coming back. BTW CS2 hasn't crashed once for me. It runs happily at 350fps. I'm not trying to run it on a toaster though. You say your PC is good enough. Just be aware minimum hardware requirements are not going to deliver a quality gaming experience. Never has never will.
Last edited by Coffee; Nov 25, 2023 @ 12:44pm
BIGPAT Nov 25, 2023 @ 12:46pm 
cs2 is the best overall just right now the community is split due to Valve taking their time...
Renos Nov 25, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
and yet cs2 somehow has lower end to end system latency than CSGO CSS and 1.6
AdahnGorion Nov 25, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
All of them are inferior to 1.2
Espa Nov 25, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by Coffee:
They weren't better. I started playing in 1.3. Nostalgia is BS. If you played those earlier versions now you would see how far the game has come. Today earlier versions would look worse than Battlebit remastered in comparison.
The game has always had a problem with cheating. This isn't something that has just arisen when CSGO was released. The only thing that was better back in the day was the huge amount of community maps available to play and that looks like it might be coming back. BTW CS2 hasn't crashed once for me. It runs happily at 350fps. I'm not trying to run it on a toaster though. You say your PC is good enough. Just be aware minimum hardware requirements are not going to deliver a quality gaming experience. Never has never will.
I was still playing 1.6 and CZ back then. I've only recently started playing CS2 again, so I think I remember the gaming experience back then, even though it was 20 years ago. Honestly, what has become so much better? Apart from the slightly higher resolution graphics and a few small changes to the gameplay, not much has changed. Except that it's not stable and that's the most annoying thing of all. And no, I'm not the only one who has problems.
Last edited by Espa; Nov 25, 2023 @ 1:20pm
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Date Posted: Nov 25, 2023 @ 9:22am
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