Biggest Gripe With Premier

[Skillet]

Its not a secret that the premier rankings are pretty trash atm.

I think the biggest issue is that the game typically decides what your rank gain/loss is going to be before you've even started playing. It takes no individual performance metrics at all... it seems like it's just how many games have you won/lost in a row.

This makes the premier rank basically a team based score. The better your average teams, whether randoms or with a party, the better your chance of winning and the higher your rank.

This means if you perform poorly in all your games, but your teammates win the games for you, your rank still climbs. Conversely, you perform well in a game where your teammates do not, your rank still goes down. This puts matchmaking in no mans land because you're not being matched on the skill of a player, you're being matched on the skill of their average team the last 10-20 matches.

The game should take into account individual performance over the games, rather than just a flat score based on how many recent games you've won.

[Shadowℝ]

100% this. Premier is literally a team based system which is so frustrating. How can the person carrying with 30 kills / most damage get the same points as the bottom fragger with the least amount of kills / damage when both players are sitting at 12k points in my case. Surely the person at the top of the log should be getting more points vs the person at the bottom.

[c4pNchr0n1c]

The biggest issue is cheating

[Hamless Hog]

How is this different than the others ranks?

[Skillet]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

How is this different than the others ranks?

I have no opinion on the "other ranks"... whatever you mean by that. My only suggestion was that Premier should evaluate more of a users metrics than just their win/loss and give points based on individual performance, rather than just what rank you are currently and the amount of times you've won/lost in a row.

[DR. Kitty Kat]

Originally posted by Skillet:

This makes the premier rank basically a team based score. The better your average teams, whether randoms or with a party, the better your chance of winning and the higher your rank.

It is a team based game. so it makes sense.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Skillet:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

How is this different than the others ranks?

I have no opinion on the "other ranks"... whatever you mean by that. My only suggestion was that Premier should evaluate more of a users metrics than just their win/loss and give points based on individual performance, rather than just what rank you are currently and the amount of times you've won/lost in a row.

Isn’t that how comp ranks go to though, I’m trying to understand what you don’t like about the premier ranking compared to comp ranking.

[Skillet]

Originally posted by LOL EMILY LOL OMG HAHA:

Originally posted by Skillet:

This makes the premier rank basically a team based score. The better your average teams, whether randoms or with a party, the better your chance of winning and the higher your rank.

It is a team based game. so it makes sense.

Its a team based game sure, but the matchmaking should be made from individual performance.

That's why 1 game you're getting 1 tapped by a 5k and the next a 15k walks around looking at their feet the entire game.

[elite outsider]

the ranking systems for premiere and comp both aren't legit, for this and lots of other reasons

it's just there to keep people coming back to the game with false expectations, eventually buying skins to cope along the way

have you noticed that the 15ks aiming at shins all game also have all kinds of expensive gear? you can often find them failing to clutch a 1v1 round ending fight because they were too busy fullscreen inspecting their deagle

[Ace The Kangaroo]

I think the issue with premier rankings is how volatile the system is, during beta I was dropped in 12k after launch and playing my placements I was dropped around 7k then after my ranking expired after winning 1 game I slingshot up to 17.7k and quite frankly besides during the beta I found no real difference between opponents at 17.7k and 7k I think the system is just bad at placing players at correct skill levels but should eventually correct itself overtime.
Also I don't think the system should favor individual play over winning matches otherwise players will be rewarded by stat padding rather than trying to win the game.
5 Stacks are a massive issue with premier as well I have no idea why valve don't force them to be put with other 5 stacks.