Cheater Strike 2

[NuLL BoCk]

Does CS2 still make sense? Steam doesn't seem to care that CS2 is flooded with cheaters. They only care about your money I'm in favor of nobody buying a box or weapon. Make the game more playable for players who don't buy cheats or do you also earn money from cheats? You should be ashamed that you still haven't developed an AI anticheat software

[Corvus Glaive]

Skill issues.

[PainKiller]

no bro, if your ping is beyond 60 the sub tick will screw you over. i cant sprey in cs2. why? even if i see the trasers of the bullets hit the target from a close range i die and mange to hit only twice.... yea. sub tick good for low ping players becouse in csgo i could sprey even wiht 100 ping.

[76561197963519852]

They're purposely trying to bait you by writing "skill issue"

What I've found, is that the people being the most imflammatory and disrespectful are also the ones who don't respect the game itself, much less the community.

To them, to play, is to be toxic and ruin the experience for others.

Now imagine giving this type of person a third party program that makes them omnipotent in game.

I'm hoping you see the connection.

[Tyler]

Wheres Hogarth. It'll be here shortly.

[Corvus Glaive]

Originally posted by redacted:

They're purposely trying to bait you by writing "skill issue"

Yes. I'm baiting you to start improving yourself instead of complaining.

Because if you have such a huge playtime and never reached anything higher than silver then there's two options. You don't want to be better ingame and just enjoy your current state without bothering. Or you have skill issues that you refuse to admit.

[lephro]

Originally posted by redacted:

They're purposely trying to bait you by writing "skill issue"

What I've found, is that the people being the most imflammatory and disrespectful are also the ones who don't respect the game itself, muchess the community.

To them, to play, is to be toxic and ruin the experience for others.

Now imagine giving this type of person a third party program that makes them omnipotent in game.

I'm hoping you see the connection.

Its not a bait its fact.

Most people here, that think that they play against cheaters most often just have skill issues.
They think that people that peek around a corner and instant headshot you have cheats, cause they dont understand the game. I saw this over the many many years in cs (i play since the very first version 0.5beta) countless times. Yes there are cheaters, but chances that you actually play against one are very very small. Its most often just a skill issue.. or luck.

[76561197963519852]

Originally posted by Corvus Glaive:

Originally posted by redacted:

They're purposely trying to bait you by writing "skill issue"

Yes. I'm baiting you to start improving yourself instead of complaining.

Because if you have such a huge playtime and never reached anything higher than silver then there's two options. You don't want to be better ingame and just enjoy your current state without bothering. Or you have skill issues that you refuse to admit.

There's only so much improvement one can make to their own game and hardware before cheaters start toggling more and more features to the point, your chances of beating them drastically starts to go down.

Cheaters fundsmentally cheat to have the advantage in a situation. They stack odds in their favor.

Individual skill can only go so far against someone using walls, aimbot, anti-aim, triggerbot, etc... at some point the environment is 1s and 0s and reaction times that rely on organic matter are going to be slower and less consistent than silicon matter making those same decisions.

[Corvus Glaive]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by Corvus Glaive:

Yes. I'm baiting you to start improving yourself instead of complaining.

Because if you have such a huge playtime and never reached anything higher than silver then there's two options. You don't want to be better ingame and just enjoy your current state without bothering. Or you have skill issues that you refuse to admit.

There's only so much improvement one can make to their own game and hardware before cheaters start toggling more and more features to the point, your chances of beating them drastically starts to go down.

Cheaters fundsmentally cheat to have the advantage in a situation. They stack odds in their favor.

Individual skill can only go so far against someone using walls, aimbot, anti-aim, triggerbot, etc... at some point the environment is 1s and 0s and reaction times that rely on organic matter are going to be slower and less consistent than silicon matter making those same decisions.

This could be very true but here's one thing. Most cheaters were successfully sorted out from regular players. And you just don't meet them often enough to affect on your performane and game experience.
So all leads to a real reason of your negative attitude - skill issue.

[phwg.nam]

Originally posted by lephro:

Originally posted by redacted:

They're purposely trying to bait you by writing "skill issue"

What I've found, is that the people being the most imflammatory and disrespectful are also the ones who don't respect the game itself, muchess the community.

To them, to play, is to be toxic and ruin the experience for others.

Now imagine giving this type of person a third party program that makes them omnipotent in game.

I'm hoping you see the connection.

Its not a bait its fact.

Most people here, that think that they play against cheaters most often just have skill issues.
They think that people that peek around a corner and instant headshot you have cheats, cause they dont understand the game. I saw this over the many many years in cs (i play since the very first version 0.5beta) countless times. Yes there are cheaters, but chances that you actually play against one are very very small. Its most often just a skill issue.. or luck.

Haha you even dont play game why you know clearly ? They cheat public kill 50 to 60 that is skill issue ??

[lephro]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by Corvus Glaive:

Yes. I'm baiting you to start improving yourself instead of complaining.

Because if you have such a huge playtime and never reached anything higher than silver then there's two options. You don't want to be better ingame and just enjoy your current state without bothering. Or you have skill issues that you refuse to admit.

There's only so much improvement one can make to their own game and hardware before cheaters start toggling more and more features to the point, your chances of beating them drastically starts to go down.

Cheaters fundsmentally cheat to have the advantage in a situation. They stack odds in their favor.

Individual skill can only go so far against someone using walls, aimbot, anti-aim, triggerbot, etc... at some point the environment is 1s and 0s and reaction times that rely on organic matter are going to be slower and less consistent than silicon matter making those same decisions.

Nobody told you that its a skill issue that you can't beat a cheater.

Problem with the skill issue is, that people with skill issues often missjudge the situation and way too often conclude that the enemy is cheating, while its in reality many other factors -----> related to the skill.

[76561197963519852]

Originally posted by Corvus Glaive:

Originally posted by redacted:

There's only so much improvement one can make to their own game and hardware before cheaters start toggling more and more features to the point, your chances of beating them drastically starts to go down.

Cheaters fundsmentally cheat to have the advantage in a situation. They stack odds in their favor.

Individual skill can only go so far against someone using walls, aimbot, anti-aim, triggerbot, etc... at some point the environment is 1s and 0s and reaction times that rely on organic matter are going to be slower and less consistent than silicon matter making those same decisions.

This could be very true but here's one thing. Most cheaters were successfully sorted out from regular players. And you just don't meet them often enough to affect on your performane and game experience.
So all leads to a real reason of your negative attitude - skill issue.

What if your assumption, that they're being properly sorted out, is wrong?

Is there any wiggle room there for an actual consensus that maybe, just maybe cheaters are so superfluous, that sorting them is the equivalent of trying to hold water with a sieve?

[76561197963519852]

Originally posted by lephro:

Originally posted by redacted:

There's only so much improvement one can make to their own game and hardware before cheaters start toggling more and more features to the point, your chances of beating them drastically starts to go down.

Cheaters fundsmentally cheat to have the advantage in a situation. They stack odds in their favor.

Individual skill can only go so far against someone using walls, aimbot, anti-aim, triggerbot, etc... at some point the environment is 1s and 0s and reaction times that rely on organic matter are going to be slower and less consistent than silicon matter making those same decisions.

Nobody told you that its a skill issue that you can't beat a cheater.

Problem with the skill issue is, that people with skill issues often missjudge the situation and way too often conclude that the enemy is cheating, while its in reality many other factors -----> related to the skill.

And what if they're not.

Do you think it's possible clean players with skill are being rank oppressed due to sheer amount of cheaters taking their place above them?

Isn't that, essentially, one of the main reasons people cheat, to be ranked higher?

If that logic holds true, for every cheater on the leaderboard above a clean player, then clearly some people are being held back.

[lephro]

Originally posted by Jigsaw:

Originally posted by lephro:

Its not a bait its fact.

Most people here, that think that they play against cheaters most often just have skill issues.
They think that people that peek around a corner and instant headshot you have cheats, cause they dont understand the game. I saw this over the many many years in cs (i play since the very first version 0.5beta) countless times. Yes there are cheaters, but chances that you actually play against one are very very small. Its most often just a skill issue.. or luck.

Haha you even dont play game why you know clearly ? They cheat public kill 50 to 60 that is skill issue ??

I have more than twice the hours in cs then you. I played 2 days ago. 5 premier games.. all wins @15k mmr.

I can get 50 kills in a public lobby on a good day. Where is your evidence that you actually played against a cheater? Your judgement alone is likely not worth much.

[Renos]

find it funny anybody pays attention to what redacted has to say
when he somehow has over 4k hours in cs
but is still silver and lvl2 on faceit
man clearly wouldn't be able to tell a cheater from a legit,

[Corvus Glaive]

Originally posted by redacted:

Originally posted by Corvus Glaive:

This could be very true but here's one thing. Most cheaters were successfully sorted out from regular players. And you just don't meet them often enough to affect on your performane and game experience.
So all leads to a real reason of your negative attitude - skill issue.

What if your assumption, that they're being properly sorted out, is wrong?

Is there any wiggle room there for an actual consensus that maybe, just maybe cheaters are so superfluous, that sorting them is the equivalent of trying to hold water with a sieve?

There's no need to make "what if" fantasies, because it won't change reality.
Instead of living with excuses you could just start working on improvement of your experience.