Tech help wanted! Massive fps drop when many are shooting/ many players on the server

[Zoso]

Hey!

I have massive fps drops when playing CS2, but only in certain situations. Just tested my fps in the following situations (with bots on dust 2)

- Empty server = 180-200 fps
- Server with 9 bots = 60-100 fps
- Server with 9 bots and multiple are shooting at the same time = 20-50 fps
- Deathmatch (both with bots or real players) = 30-60

There is no difference in fps to playing with bots or real players, so it's not a network issue. The biggest problem is when shooting, my fps just falls of a cliff.
Normal competitive/premier is playable for the most part, but the fps drops massively if a lot of firefights are happening at the same time, like if someone rushes a bomb site.
Deathmatch is basically unplayable because of the fps.

I'm not playing on a laptop, I'm playing on a desktop pc from 2019 with the following specs:

- Graphics card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 ARMOR 8G
- CPU: Intel S1151 CORE i5 9600K BOX 6x3,7GHz 95W
- RAM: 16 GB
- SSD: 250 GB Samsung 970 EVO MZ-V7E250BW
- Screen: MSI 27" 144 Hz (Game is set to 144 Hz)

Hope anyone knows a fix :)

[TheLevelCap]

Ancient hardware

Just kidding, what resolution and quality settings are you using?

[Zoso]

Wish i could post a picture here, hahaha

Aspect ratio: Widescreen 16:9
Resolution 1920X1080
Display mode: Fullscreen
Refresh rate: 144 Hz

Boost player contrast: Enabled
Wait for vertical sync: Disabled
Current video values preset: Custom

Multisampling Anti-aliasing mode: 4X MSAA
Global shadow quality: Medium
Model/Texture detail: Medium
Texture fitering mode: Bilinear
Shader detail: High
Particle detail: Low
Ambiant occlusion: Medium
High dynamic range: Quality
FidelityFX Super Resolution: Disabled (Highest quality)
NVIDIA reflex low latency: Enabled

[TheLevelCap]

It's weird, it should be running fine... Have you tried setting everything to low and FidelityFX off? I mean, in CS we usually play the game using 4:3 (usually 1440x1080) and most of the things low (except MSAA, you can use on 2 or 4). You could test to confirm if you still have these issues. It's funny bcoz a friend of mine playing using a GTX 1050 and she doesn't have none if these issues.

Tbh CS2 needs a lot of optimization. To give you a context, when CSGO released I couldn't run it using a PC I used to play BF4. Then 7 years later I was running CSGO very well on a laptop that couldn't run BF4...

[Sethioz]

Originally posted by Zoso:

Hey!

I have massive fps drops when playing CS2, but only in certain situations. Just tested my fps in the following situations (with bots on dust 2)

- Empty server = 180-200 fps
- Server with 9 bots = 60-100 fps
- Server with 9 bots and multiple are shooting at the same time = 20-50 fps
- Deathmatch (both with bots or real players) = 30-60

There is no difference in fps to playing with bots or real players, so it's not a network issue. The biggest problem is when shooting, my fps just falls of a cliff.
Normal competitive/premier is playable for the most part, but the fps drops massively if a lot of firefights are happening at the same time, like if someone rushes a bomb site.
Deathmatch is basically unplayable because of the fps.

I'm not playing on a laptop, I'm playing on a desktop pc from 2019 with the following specs:

- Graphics card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 ARMOR 8G
- CPU: Intel S1151 CORE i5 9600K BOX 6x3,7GHz 95W
- RAM: 16 GB
- SSD: 250 GB Samsung 970 EVO MZ-V7E250BW
- Screen: MSI 27" 144 Hz (Game is set to 144 Hz)

Hope anyone knows a fix :)

dont run unlocked fps ... why does everyone like to fry their GPU?
you sync your fps with your monitor's hertz

[Zoso]

How do you change the unlocked fps setting?

[swrv]

There are many guides on YouTube and Google to help u optimize your pc to actually run at its full potential. Alot of people don't even know hot to unlock super performance mode, I'd start there and see how much that helps

[TheLevelCap]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by Zoso:

Hey!

I have massive fps drops when playing CS2, but only in certain situations. Just tested my fps in the following situations (with bots on dust 2)

- Empty server = 180-200 fps
- Server with 9 bots = 60-100 fps
- Server with 9 bots and multiple are shooting at the same time = 20-50 fps
- Deathmatch (both with bots or real players) = 30-60

There is no difference in fps to playing with bots or real players, so it's not a network issue. The biggest problem is when shooting, my fps just falls of a cliff.
Normal competitive/premier is playable for the most part, but the fps drops massively if a lot of firefights are happening at the same time, like if someone rushes a bomb site.
Deathmatch is basically unplayable because of the fps.

I'm not playing on a laptop, I'm playing on a desktop pc from 2019 with the following specs:

- Graphics card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 ARMOR 8G
- CPU: Intel S1151 CORE i5 9600K BOX 6x3,7GHz 95W
- RAM: 16 GB
- SSD: 250 GB Samsung 970 EVO MZ-V7E250BW
- Screen: MSI 27" 144 Hz (Game is set to 144 Hz)

Hope anyone knows a fix :)

dont run unlocked fps ... why does everyone like to fry their GPU?
you sync your fps with your monitor's hertz

In my case I get imput when I lock it to my screen and the image seems less smooth.

Originally posted by Zoso:

How do you change the unlocked fps setting?

You can use fps_max 144 on console.

[MBF]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by Zoso:

Hey!

I have massive fps drops when playing CS2, but only in certain situations. Just tested my fps in the following situations (with bots on dust 2)

- Empty server = 180-200 fps
- Server with 9 bots = 60-100 fps
- Server with 9 bots and multiple are shooting at the same time = 20-50 fps
- Deathmatch (both with bots or real players) = 30-60

There is no difference in fps to playing with bots or real players, so it's not a network issue. The biggest problem is when shooting, my fps just falls of a cliff.
Normal competitive/premier is playable for the most part, but the fps drops massively if a lot of firefights are happening at the same time, like if someone rushes a bomb site.
Deathmatch is basically unplayable because of the fps.

I'm not playing on a laptop, I'm playing on a desktop pc from 2019 with the following specs:

- Graphics card: MSI GeForce RTX 2070 ARMOR 8G
- CPU: Intel S1151 CORE i5 9600K BOX 6x3,7GHz 95W
- RAM: 16 GB
- SSD: 250 GB Samsung 970 EVO MZ-V7E250BW
- Screen: MSI 27" 144 Hz (Game is set to 144 Hz)

Hope anyone knows a fix :)

dont run unlocked fps ... why does everyone like to fry their GPU?
you sync your fps with your monitor's hertz

Learn how a GPU works before giving advice about a GPU

[Puma03]

Just hopping in to say I'm getting the same thing after update. Even against bots, shooting very clearly causes stuttering and frame drops despite the FPS counter not showing it. I lowered everything as much as possible and it's still happening. I'm on a 3070 Ti and i9-13900K CPU and had zero issue getting 240+ FPS without stutters or any issues before the update.

[roy oboy]

Originally posted by Puma03:

Just hopping in to say I'm getting the same thing after update. Even against bots, shooting very clearly causes stuttering and frame drops despite the FPS counter not showing it. I lowered everything as much as possible and it's still happening. I'm on a 3070 Ti and i9-13900K CPU and had zero issue getting 240+ FPS without stutters or any issues before the update.

Bro did you fix it? I have the same problem still. Updated my graphics card and ever since I have these fps drops from 250-300 right down to 50 when I shoot or get shot at, its fckng unplayable right now. I have all the latest updates, drivers, etcetera. I´ve tried every single "solution" that can be found on the internet and im not even kidding. I even tried reinstalling windows but it didn´t help.

[skOsH♥]

if on windows try opening up the local group policy editor and search QoS. If running windows 11 home there's a tricky way to get it to work but you can always do an internet search of what registry paths correlate with QoS scheduling

then turn all background bandwidth to 5% once you find this setting

do this, in this order:
-clear the %temp% folder. It won't typically fully clear because there's temp files being actively used, but delete as much as possible
-clear the shader cache. Sometimes this is in your gpu settings, if running nvidia you can just do it from:
type "delete temporary files" and hit enter. Click temporary files, refresh the list, check everything but the downloads folder (unless you want to delete recent downloads).

Idk anything else besides that...I would leave fps uncapped, your gpu is going to find a happy medium to crank out frames after a while....that's something that just happens in the game after a little while

[roy oboy]

okay im trying this rn. can you tell me more exactly what to do in the qos? is it the user qos or the computer qos and what do i do with it?

[skOsH♥]

Well, you'll need to go into your networking and internet connections as well, you'll see QoS in the adapter settings but don't touch that. You'll hit properties on your active network adapter, then click configure right afterwards, that should bring up the actual network card or adapter, and then you'll need to go to power management and disable the ability to have the computer turn it off to save power

gpedit.msc is what you would type in windows 10 or below, or if you have windows 11 pro

search for "gpedit qos registry settings win11" it should be the one answered by AI. I would make a restore point here because you'll have to manually edit some registry values according to your internet connection speed and what other things it is used for.

Other things I would check, is if your motherboard has a bios update. save it as the exact filename described on the motherboard manufacturer website support page for your mobo model, and also update chipset, sound, and lan drivers.

When doing the bios flash, make sure the file is specifically named the correct name the manufacturer says to use, and saved as the correct file *type. Save it to a usb drive formatted to fat32 with nothing else on it. Plug it into your motherboard in the back, there should be a usb port that says "bios" next to it. Then restart the pc, rapidly hit del or f8 or whatever it is for your pc to get into bios, and then navigate to something called "bios flash", or whatever manufacturer made the board, usually has their own name for it. -Make sure to select the right drive, then select the file, hit enter, and wait for it to finish -- *do not interrupt this process-- doing so can brick the pc, the screen will go completely black for a few minutes, this is when the bios is flashing, afterwards you should see the POST screen and the windows login screen will come up again.

*edit: I miswrote file path instead of type, but it also needs the right file path, make sure it's on that usb drive. Some usb drives are tough to format to fat32. I would use a third-party software tool to format large usb drives over 4gb to fat32.

[roy oboy]

Thx for reaching out skOsh. Unfortunately this did not work either.... any other ideas?