do you think griefing cooldown system is unfair and need updating

[76561199042707693]

+1 if you agree
-1 if you disagree

[Waterbutterfly]

3 times I played ranked in random team and all were russians. later after 10 rounds they kicked me. after 3 times kick I got 13 days cooldown... these russians should get punishment bcs they only wanna troll in this fu... game

[wolik]

Same

[Sethioz]

Originally posted by Waterbutterfly:

3 times I played ranked in random team and all were russians. later after 10 rounds they kicked me. after 3 times kick I got 13 days cooldown... these russians should get punishment bcs they only wanna troll in this fu... game

didn't know you can even get 13 days, but yeah very true. they kick you purely out of hate, because you're better and actually play normal and don't just rush and die in 3 seconds.

had it many times, i use brain instead of holding W + bashing LMB and i get kicked for that.
like one time noobs all rush and instantly die within 10-15 seconds in mirage, i'm last one alive with full gear, managed to pick off 2, but 3 were guarding the bomb. so i wanted to save and they kick me ... this was in like 2nd or 3rd round ...

trolls / report abusers need to be punished severely. just because someone doesn't play the way you want, doesn't give you the right to kick or report them.
vote kick shouldn't even be available until player does something that could be considered as griefing, they need to improve this system for sure.

reporting should only become available when:

1. player teamkills or does constant team damage
2. player does team damage before you're able to reach enemy players, like near spawn
3. player constantly team flashes in spawn
4. enemy kills you more than 3 times (then you can report that player for cheating)
5. player uses voice or chat, then you can report for abusive comms only.
6. player is afk for more than 5 seconds in 3 or more rounds
7. player has 6000+ money and refuses to buy

and some other things that valve has to add. otherwise if player has not met any of those points, then reporting should be impossible.

HOWEVER i'd like to say that i only had those mass report and griefing issues when i started playing cs2, so i assume that everyone starts at very bottom.
i've played about 250h since and improved my rank and amount of hostile/malicious players has significantly decreased. those random kicks and griefing is becoming more rare.

[dog]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by Waterbutterfly:

3 times I played ranked in random team and all were russians. later after 10 rounds they kicked me. after 3 times kick I got 13 days cooldown... these russians should get punishment bcs they only wanna troll in this fu... game

didn't know you can even get 13 days, but yeah very true. they kick you purely out of hate, because you're better and actually play normal and don't just rush and die in 3 seconds.

had it many times, i use brain instead of holding W + bashing LMB and i get kicked for that.
like one time noobs all rush and instantly die within 10-15 seconds in mirage, i'm last one alive with full gear, managed to pick off 2, but 3 were guarding the bomb. so i wanted to save and they kick me ... this was in like 2nd or 3rd round ...

trolls / report abusers need to be punished severely. just because someone doesn't play the way you want, doesn't give you the right to kick or report them.
vote kick shouldn't even be available until player does something that could be considered as griefing, they need to improve this system for sure.

reporting should only become available when:

1. player teamkills or does constant team damage
2. player does team damage before you're able to reach enemy players, like near spawn
3. player constantly team flashes in spawn
4. enemy kills you more than 3 times (then you can report that player for cheating)
5. player uses voice or chat, then you can report for abusive comms only.
6. player is afk for more than 5 seconds in 3 or more rounds
7. player has 6000+ money and refuses to buy

and some other things that valve has to add. otherwise if player has not met any of those points, then reporting should be impossible.

HOWEVER i'd like to say that i only had those mass report and griefing issues when i started playing cs2, so i assume that everyone starts at very bottom.
i've played about 250h since and improved my rank and amount of hostile/malicious players has significantly decreased. those random kicks and griefing is becoming more rare.

fyi, people say 13 days but it's actually 14. It's just that the countdown goes down instantly so it says 13 days 23h

[Cryptic]

git gud

[Sethioz]

Originally posted by mORIS:

Originally posted by Sethioz:

didn't know you can even get 13 days, but yeah very true. they kick you purely out of hate, because you're better and actually play normal and don't just rush and die in 3 seconds.

had it many times, i use brain instead of holding W + bashing LMB and i get kicked for that.
like one time noobs all rush and instantly die within 10-15 seconds in mirage, i'm last one alive with full gear, managed to pick off 2, but 3 were guarding the bomb. so i wanted to save and they kick me ... this was in like 2nd or 3rd round ...

trolls / report abusers need to be punished severely. just because someone doesn't play the way you want, doesn't give you the right to kick or report them.
vote kick shouldn't even be available until player does something that could be considered as griefing, they need to improve this system for sure.

reporting should only become available when:

1. player teamkills or does constant team damage
2. player does team damage before you're able to reach enemy players, like near spawn
3. player constantly team flashes in spawn
4. enemy kills you more than 3 times (then you can report that player for cheating)
5. player uses voice or chat, then you can report for abusive comms only.
6. player is afk for more than 5 seconds in 3 or more rounds
7. player has 6000+ money and refuses to buy

and some other things that valve has to add. otherwise if player has not met any of those points, then reporting should be impossible.

HOWEVER i'd like to say that i only had those mass report and griefing issues when i started playing cs2, so i assume that everyone starts at very bottom.
i've played about 250h since and improved my rank and amount of hostile/malicious players has significantly decreased. those random kicks and griefing is becoming more rare.

fyi, people say 13 days but it's actually 14. It's just that the countdown goes down instantly so it says 13 days 23h

i honestly cant imagine how bad one has to be to get 14 days.
i've only had 2x 24h for "griefing", which i did not do.
i just got reported by toxic no-skillers who rushed, instantly died and then got bored cuz i was still alive.
there was jut 1 day between those cooldowns and it didn't even go up.
in order to get 14 days .. one must have extremely low trust factor or gets reported in every single match.

[alex]

It is a terrible system. I keep getting cooldowns 3-5 games after getting off my last one. I only play in 5queues and we never grief. It is always angry/toxic enemies who report and give us undeserved cooldowns. Makes no sense that enemy reports count towards cooldowns (and community server reports like faceit) when no teammates report you.

[Destroy Lonely]

This grifing cooldown i not supposed to be. I hade a cooldown that expiries today and now when i checked if its expired they have added again 4 days ad 15 hours. Why steam support is doing this i dont know ? Can someone explain ?

[dog]

Originally posted by Sethioz:

Originally posted by mORIS:

fyi, people say 13 days but it's actually 14. It's just that the countdown goes down instantly so it says 13 days 23h

i honestly cant imagine how bad one has to be to get 14 days.
i've only had 2x 24h for "griefing", which i did not do.
i just got reported by toxic no-skillers who rushed, instantly died and then got bored cuz i was still alive.
there was jut 1 day between those cooldowns and it didn't even go up.
in order to get 14 days .. one must have extremely low trust factor or gets reported in every single match.

It's not about how bad or whatever you say, it's just that they increase with each cooldown and the cap is 14 days.
Once you reach 14 days you will never go down to anything else, every cooldown will be 14 days.
Trust me it's really easy to reach if you play 10 matches a day soloQ.

[dog]

Originally posted by Destroy Lonely:

This grifing cooldown i not supposed to be. I hade a cooldown that expiries today and now when i checked if its expired they have added again 4 days ad 15 hours. Why steam support is doing this i dont know ? Can someone explain ?

You got reported while playing something else. Maybe deathmatch, casual or Faceit!
Yes you get griefing cooldowns while playing Faceit if people report you ingame.

[Outsider]

Originally posted by mORIS:

Originally posted by Sethioz:

i honestly cant imagine how bad one has to be to get 14 days.
i've only had 2x 24h for "griefing", which i did not do.
i just got reported by toxic no-skillers who rushed, instantly died and then got bored cuz i was still alive.
there was jut 1 day between those cooldowns and it didn't even go up.
in order to get 14 days .. one must have extremely low trust factor or gets reported in every single match.

It's not about how bad or whatever you say, it's just that they increase with each cooldown and the cap is 14 days.
Once you reach 14 days you will never go down to anything else, every cooldown will be 14 days.
Trust me it's really easy to reach if you play 10 matches a day soloQ.

Lol, i'm playing exactly that number of matches per day for last couple of weeks and i didn't even been kicked, and got no cooldowns either.
Are you sure there's no some communication issue between you and other people?

[Arthur Compton]

Originally posted by made in russia:

+1 if you agree
-1 if you disagree

I couldnt play mm at all. At first, I gotreported by my team for toxicity so I assumed thats why I got griefing bans. Then i stopped using the mic at all and still got 10+ day griefing bans even when there was no damage to my teammates. The system is pretty stupid because if the enemy team decides your cheating or your team just doesnt like you, you can get reported by at least 2 people in a game for griefing and bam you get a ban. I stopped playing cs for like 2 months, just hopped into a cs2 game, teammates reported me because I was afk for the first round and I got a griefing ban that was 12 days lol. Guess not playing has 0 effect.

[Fr4ntic]

Your most likely are gonna get more negative views about the cooldown system because thats basicly what the forum is a place filled with ppl being negative about anything cs related.
And the forum also shows the cooldown system is working as intedend since evrybody complaining about it always shows it has something to do with them and not the system.

So no need to change anything.

[76561199042707693]

no wonder player base drop from 800k to 500k ...they prevent you from playing 14 days , while other game they beg you just to play 1 hour
the only reason those 500k still play is that case drop .

[Sigma]

Originally posted by made in russia:

no wonder player base drop from 800k to 500k ...they prevent you from playing 14 days , while other game they beg you just to play 1 hour
the only reason those 500k still play is that case drop .

It's a very good system for building up addiction tho! Take it away for some time once in a while, and it leaves the players craving for more.
Luckily there is also a system that prevents addiction, which solely reduces the xp gain, and the systems that work completely against it... unregulated gambling, free weekly drops etc.