Griefing Bans

[Gazza]

i keep getting banned for 2+weeks for greifing when i am not i can finish top half of the team most games i am clean on language yet still every time my coolodown runs out within 24hrs ill be facing yet another ban, could it be salty people reporting mr simply for owning skins. any advice i don't wanna have to buy a new account to reset my trust factor ?

[Froggy]

Buying a new account is against ToS.
Getting a new account doesn't reset your trustfactor.
You need to get significantly more reports than others for it to trigger the ban.

So you're most likely doing something wrong, even if you don't think it is wrong.
I've seen several people who see nothing wrong with deliberately shooting their teammates because they're a friend of yours for example.
That is still griefing, regardless of your personal connection as it affects the rest of the players in the match.

[Gazza]

i very rarely to ever get caught doing any team damage even with HE grenades/Molotov with friends or randoms it more seems to be middle eastern country screaming down mic at me simply for being European i have never bothered to report them though for language simply mute them for the game. it seems my problem is bigger than a small thing due to now my third 2 week ban in 6 weeks

[alex]

They say "significantly more reports" but it really doesn't take that many. A few games of facing toxic 5queues is all it takes to get the first cooldown. Then after that it barely takes any reports in the future to get a subsequent cooldown for 24h longer each time. Toxic people/actual griefers have been abusing this system for months and months to get people undeserved cooldowns. It is terrible. What's even worse is that community server (faceit, etc.) and enemy reports count towards the MM cooldowns. Why should enemies be able to report you for griefing and get you a cooldown if no one on your team reports you or thinks you are griefing? Such a poorly-implemented system.

[Froggy]

Originally posted by cohiba_smoker:

They say "significantly more reports" but it really doesn't take that many. A few games of facing toxic 5queues is all it takes to get the first cooldown. Then after that it barely takes any reports in the future to get a subsequent cooldown for 24h longer each time. Toxic people/actual griefers have been abusing this system for months and months to get people undeserved cooldowns. It is terrible. What's even worse is that community server (faceit, etc.) and enemy reports count towards the MM cooldowns. Why should enemies be able to report you for griefing and get you a cooldown if no one on your team reports you or thinks you are griefing? Such a poorly-implemented system.

If there are so many people that are "abusing the system" by reporting everyone left and right, that would also mean that the bar would rise, so it would be more difficult to reach the level of significantly more reports.

[RamosRealM]

Well maybe you could stop griefing? Then you wouldn't get reported? Smh

[alex]

Originally posted by Froggy:

Originally posted by cohiba_smoker:

They say "significantly more reports" but it really doesn't take that many. A few games of facing toxic 5queues is all it takes to get the first cooldown. Then after that it barely takes any reports in the future to get a subsequent cooldown for 24h longer each time. Toxic people/actual griefers have been abusing this system for months and months to get people undeserved cooldowns. It is terrible. What's even worse is that community server (faceit, etc.) and enemy reports count towards the MM cooldowns. Why should enemies be able to report you for griefing and get you a cooldown if no one on your team reports you or thinks you are griefing? Such a poorly-implemented system.

If there are so many people that are "abusing the system" by reporting everyone left and right, that would also mean that the bar would rise, so it would be more difficult to reach the level of significantly more reports.

Pretty sure they've been using a preset number the whole time, and it doesn't change dynamically.

[Gazza]

Originally posted by I punt badgers:

Well maybe you could stop griefing? Then you wouldn't get reported? Smh

Obviously failed to read the initial post saying I’m not the problem in this equation

[Gazza]

Originally posted by alex:

They say "significantly more reports" but it really doesn't take that many. A few games of facing toxic 5queues is all it takes to get the first cooldown. Then after that it barely takes any reports in the future to get a subsequent cooldown for 24h longer each time. Toxic people/actual griefers have been abusing this system for months and months to get people undeserved cooldowns. It is terrible. What's even worse is that community server (faceit, etc.) and enemy reports count towards the MM cooldowns. Why should enemies be able to report you for griefing and get you a cooldown if no one on your team reports you or thinks you are griefing? Such a poorly-implemented system.

Literally blaming a majority of these ‘reports’ on toxic 4 man Queues either as my teammates or simply 5 against me on the opposite team. I can finish most games way above the people screaming at me in game yet I still seem to be the one punished for no reason. What should I do scream back at then. I have never reported anyone for trash talking coms abuse or even griefing. Another thing that seems to make a difference particularly in premier a 4 stack on my team will boot me at the end me of the game win or lose which I think plays a big factor

[Gazza]

Seems my account is permanently black listed no matter what I do I will be back on another 2’week cool-down as soon as I lose my next game

[Ben Lubar]

Originally posted by alex:

Originally posted by Froggy:

If there are so many people that are "abusing the system" by reporting everyone left and right, that would also mean that the bar would rise, so it would be more difficult to reach the level of significantly more reports.

Pretty sure they've been using a preset number the whole time, and it doesn't change dynamically.

If people were reporting randomly and there was no filtering, that would mean that bans would also be handed out randomly. But they're not. People who are getting banned for griefing always describe it as "I keep getting banned", and people who are not getting banned for griefing aren't getting banned for griefing.

Clearly, the reports aren't being sent out at random. Something is happening that causes a chain of events ending in a ban.

[jing]

Just play FACEIT
unfortunately Valve doesnt care about a good experience on their official servers

Valorant has the same report-based ban system, but if i remember correctly, its more about whether you are toxic in chat, but i have never experienced being banned for no reason.
In CS people just mark all boxes when they are going to report someone and you end up getting banned for griefing if you are constantly getting reported (if people suspect you are a cheater, if you are toxic...)

Imo, enemy team shouldn't be able to report the other team for griefing, i dont know how the devs dont realize how stupid this is... but it is what it is

[Gazza]

if you play as a solo in premier mode you will get abused by the 4 stack of russians or anyone in the middle eastern area the games matchmaking system is broke not me

[Gazza]

yes maybe FACEIT really is the way forward which is a shame as i had high hopes for the launch of CS2

[KingpinX]

step on some teams and just be a better player. they will grief report you + check all hacking boxs. after coming off a cooldown play 8 straight hours on a off day. 100% you getting another cooldown before those 8 hours up. people are abusing the report system. be a good player is all it takes. it has happened when I have ran a whole day on a 5 que. enemies reported me for dominating so no random teammates able to report for no reason. it does not take many reports to trigger a new cooldown. up to 13 days 23 hours now. valve fix your system. 1999 beta 3 player here speaking.