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M4rty Oct 9, 2023 @ 10:09am
Broken ranked system
Guys, someone knows why am i taking -400 when i loose in premier? Each game -400 or +100.
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Drax Oct 9, 2023 @ 10:12am 
Same happening to me right now.

My winrate is 65%, top ADR most games, still lose 3x to 4x the elo I get from a win. This is "released" CS2 by the way. I can forgive this type of garbage from a beta but this is the least competitive competitive around. I don't care about my rank. I DO care about who I am stuck playing with. And having to play with Novas every game is not enjoyable.

Think I'm just going back to Faceit.
Last edited by Drax; Oct 9, 2023 @ 10:12am
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Reuben Oct 9, 2023 @ 1:07pm 
Same, it's unfair when you're on a win-streak (+100 elo per win) and get quite far up to the next tier and then suddenly queue with lemmings and that one loss wipes away your entire progress (-400 elo) despite being the top fragger / damage dealer in the match whilst also losing by only a few rounds...
Last edited by Reuben; Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:20pm
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Shock Oct 9, 2023 @ 1:15pm 
yup i quit playing the game after i won 4 games at +100 and then lost 421 points after a 4 win game streak

this is in the 4000's. 4 hours down the drain. it would be different if the unranked or lowers were actually bad but that doesn't mean anything right now
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Fr34k 0.o Oct 9, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
You think that's bad? 😁 I had from 10 wins to rating, 3 games won by surrender where I didnt even see any enemies - so no kills there.
6 out of 10 games 1-2 quiters on enemy team. I mostly solo qued the wins, 3 games with friends without ratings.
The result - I got 1.5k ( sure, lets say I am at that rating for fun)
All games after that I get to play against 6k+ rating stacks or solos.

If that is supposed to be fair game, then I probably dont know what fair is to developers of this game.

EDIT: I did get to laugh at that number a lot though 😅 had a high KD, but since near russia and sweden, You only get trolls, quiters, cheaters and griefers, this was a very rapey road to rating, and honestly, not worth the time put into it. :)
Last edited by Fr34k 0.o; Oct 9, 2023 @ 1:23pm
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Pizzashot Oct 9, 2023 @ 1:21pm 
This system is utter bulltrash if you are playing as a solo player because the teams you get can be good or bad. Wins and losses should be +100 or -100, why is it +100 and -200/-400? You can play as a god and still lose because your whole team are beginners trying the game out, a god will struggle against a team full of decent players.. I have had some games with 30-15 or something, but also had teammates with 1-15.. Why are we punished for teammates in a random queue playing very bad? I am ranked at the bottom and it feels like I am stuck here because my team struggles, especially in premier where most beginners seems to be at.
Last edited by Pizzashot; Oct 9, 2023 @ 1:24pm
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M4rty Oct 9, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Yea, in 8/10 matches i am a top fragger, but i'm loosin' 1 game and get -471, then i win and get 105...
Your K/D and impact of your play isn't taking into result elo + or -, I have no motivation to play premier after that.
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OLKEV Oct 9, 2023 @ 2:32pm 
it doesnt even show how many placement wins u have
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Reuben Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:02pm 
The server force closed earlier (during the update) when we were about to win and the system penalised -1000 elo from me....

Should have 3000 more elo than I actually do.
Last edited by Reuben; Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:20pm
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GoldenBoy Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:05pm 
♥♥♥♥ game thats why
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lemontea Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:10pm 
The rating would make sense if they used data that matters like adr and utility damage, trades, multi frags, etc. It's literally a win/loss ratio with some hidden algorithm behind it. They aren't being transparent about it which makes me believe they are just going to manipulate it to make you feel like you need to play more. Trash method tbh. they could have gotten praise from the entire community if they simply doubled their data rate.
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Reuben Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by lem on lte:
The rating would make sense if they used data that matters like adr and utility damage, trades, multi frags, etc. It's literally a win/loss ratio with some hidden algorithm behind it. They aren't being transparent about it which makes me believe they are just going to manipulate it to make you feel like you need to play more. Trash method tbh. they could have gotten praise from the entire community if they simply doubled their data rate.
You mean like comp.
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lemontea Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:24pm 
Originally posted by Reuben:
Originally posted by lem on lte:
The rating would make sense if they used data that matters like adr and utility damage, trades, multi frags, etc. It's literally a win/loss ratio with some hidden algorithm behind it. They aren't being transparent about it which makes me believe they are just going to manipulate it to make you feel like you need to play more. Trash method tbh. they could have gotten praise from the entire community if they simply doubled their data rate.
You mean like comp.
no more like faceit
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Reuben Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:30pm 
Originally posted by lem on lte:
Originally posted by Reuben:
You mean like comp.
no more like faceit
Faceit (haven't played since 2013 since their software bricked my GPU back then) has it's own issues right now, like handing out undeserved elo. A pog move for them would be to go back to the CSGO legacy build with the 128 tick feature.
Last edited by Reuben; Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:35pm
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lemontea Oct 9, 2023 @ 9:39pm 
Originally posted by Reuben:
Originally posted by lem on lte:
no more like faceit
Faceit (haven't played since 2013 since their software bricked my GPU back then) has it's own issues right now, like handing out undeserved elo. A pog move for them would be to go back to the CSGO legacy build with the 128 tick feature.
it makes me so said to see you say "go back to legacy" it's only been a month. :steamsad:
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Fr34k 0.o Oct 9, 2023 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by lem on lte:
The rating would make sense if they used data that matters like adr and utility damage, trades, multi frags, etc. It's literally a win/loss ratio with some hidden algorithm behind it. They aren't being transparent about it which makes me believe they are just going to manipulate it to make you feel like you need to play more. Trash method tbh. they could have gotten praise from the entire community if they simply doubled their data rate.

Yeah, agree to that 100% ! Every game I won in premier, I had the least deaths from 10 players, and yet I am still rated poorly. I mean, I can accept getting 1.5k (even though in beta I had 11,999, but I can understand that there were less players), but seems like Premier is ALL ABOUT THE TEAM, and not an individual player. That means playing Premier with solo-que is totally pointless!
It is literally only griefers, quiters, cheaters, children and accounts with 100-300 hours. I have played CS My whole life, and this has been a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joke. At least I can laugh about it :)

EDIT: What else is laughable, is that even though Rating system seems to think that 1.500 is My accurate rating, I only get to play against 5-6k players after having a rating. Besides playing against 4x times higher ratings, they all play like silvers, not checking corners, not peeking, no utility usage and in general having very bad game-sense.
I love to train and get better with every day, but that system is broken AF
Last edited by Fr34k 0.o; Oct 9, 2023 @ 11:49pm
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