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Can't aim ♿ 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:09
Putting CS2 price at $100
I wish there was a voting system to poll this.

Combating cheaters is a challenging task. Setting the game's price at $100 could serve as a deterrent against repeat cheaters and also generating significant revenue (this could be donated or go somewhere). Those who already own the game wouldn't need to worry about this one-time payment. Implementing invasive anti-cheat measures, similar to RIOT's anti-cheat which operates at the system's lowest level, is not an option for valve.

Does anyone else have other ideas or solutions in mind?
Última edición por Can't aim ♿; 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:13
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ʚ alex ɞ 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:13 
making the game 100$ would stop A LOT of people who live in lower-income areas from playing the game, while doing NOTHING against cheaters as cheaters dont buy the game from valve anyways, they buy accounts that already have the game on it
ktulu84 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:13 
drugs are also pretty expensive but people still buys them
emcazxer 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:16 
What are you gonna do if system Catch all of these cheaters?
Can't aim ♿ 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:18 
Publicado originalmente por Linda':
making the game 100$ would stop A LOT of people who live in lower-income areas from playing the game, while doing NOTHING against cheaters as cheaters dont buy the game from valve anyways, they buy accounts that already have the game on it

For the lower income area's, depends on account age and stacks of games a person has, maybe that could qualify to have a discount?
Can't aim ♿ 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:19 
Publicado originalmente por emcazxer:
What are you gonna do if system Catch all of these cheaters?

Celebrate and the cheat admins would probably look at COD to do some cheat work.
Host Migration 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:20 
Publicado originalmente por borau:
drugs are also pretty expensive but people still buys them
Yeah because they're like physically addicted??? What an odd comparison.
vid23 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:39 
Would you be willing to pay too?
Or since you already have the game its ok to pretty much ♥♥♥♥ everyone else who dont?
domiinikk 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:40 
idk what to say lmao
Znicz 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:44 
Publicado originalmente por "Wahiba", -------> Mars:
Publicado originalmente por borau:
drugs are also pretty expensive but people still buys them
Yeah because they're like physically addicted??? What an odd comparison.
it depends on which ones, most of them are psychologically addictive, just like with games, it is enough that the dopamine-driven addiction mechanisms work and the comparison is very apt. Boom, headshot, we got the winner!
Última edición por Znicz; 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:48
ktulu84 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:48 
Publicado originalmente por Znicz:
Publicado originalmente por "Wahiba", -------> Mars:
Yeah because they're like physically addicted??? What an odd comparison.
it depends on which ones, most of them are psychologically addictive, just like with games, it is enough that the dopamine-driven addiction mechanisms work and the comparison is very apt.
its not deep man, I was drunk when I said this
Znicz 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:53 
Publicado originalmente por borau:
Publicado originalmente por Znicz:
it depends on which ones, most of them are psychologically addictive, just like with games, it is enough that the dopamine-driven addiction mechanisms work and the comparison is very apt.
its not deep man, I was drunk when I said this
I defend your thesis and you give up... that's not nice man :P
THE LORD 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:55 
COD is so expensive and people still buy many copies to cheat.
zEx-M- 6 OCT 2023 a las 3:56 
No one stop cheating because of the Price, the just sell accounts with cheats like on escape from tarkov. The big version is 120 Euro and there are plenty of esp or radar users.
Valve just need to make some anti cheat and refuse VAC because it dont work, anti cheat on kernel basis is the best solution.
Can't aim ♿ 6 OCT 2023 a las 5:56 
Publicado originalmente por vid23:
Would you be willing to pay too?
Or since you already have the game its ok to pretty much ♥♥♥♥ everyone else who dont?


I understand your concerns. My suggestion was not to alienate new players but to explore ways to deter repeated cheating. Current players, including myself, have already invested in the game. Increasing the cost might deter cheaters who often rely on creating multiple accounts. The value for money in this game is undeniable, and many players would recognize and appreciate that. Ultimately, it's everyone's personal choice to decide if they believe it's worth the investment.

Moreover, the AI anti-cheat system in place is sophisticated and continually improving. No cheat can stay undetected forever. It's worth noting that even high-profile cheaters, some of whom have spent hundreds to half a million dollars of inventory, have been caught by the system. The main objective is to ensure a fair playing environment for everyone. Additionally, the revenue generated should be reinvested back into the game and further improving the AI anti-cheat system to ensure its ongoing effectiveness.
Can't aim ♿ 6 OCT 2023 a las 6:00 
Publicado originalmente por zEx-M-:
No one stop cheating because of the Price, the just sell accounts with cheats like on escape from tarkov. The big version is 120 Euro and there are plenty of esp or radar users.
Valve just need to make some anti cheat and refuse VAC because it dont work, anti cheat on kernel basis is the best solution.

I see where you're coming from, especially with the example of 'Escape from Tarkov'. However, there's a difference between the nature and scale of cheats in various games and how the community responds to them. While some may continue to cheat despite the price, a higher entry cost can be a deterrent for a significant portion of potential cheaters. It's not a foolproof solution, but it's one of many possible layers of deterrence.

Regarding VAC, while it has its limitations, it has been effective in many cases. It's worth noting that no anti-cheat system, whether it's kernel-based or not, is perfect. Kernel-based solutions, like the one RIOT uses, come with their own set of challenges and privacy concerns. Many players are uncomfortable with software having that level of access to their systems.

The ideal solution might be a combination of various methods: hardware bans, improved AI detection, community reporting, and even economic deterrents like pricing. The key is to strike a balance that maximises deterrence while respecting player trust and privacy
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