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Can't aim ♿ Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:09am
Putting CS2 price at $100
I wish there was a voting system to poll this.

Combating cheaters is a challenging task. Setting the game's price at $100 could serve as a deterrent against repeat cheaters and also generating significant revenue (this could be donated or go somewhere). Those who already own the game wouldn't need to worry about this one-time payment. Implementing invasive anti-cheat measures, similar to RIOT's anti-cheat which operates at the system's lowest level, is not an option for valve.

Does anyone else have other ideas or solutions in mind?
Last edited by Can't aim ♿; Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:13am
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ʚ alex ɞ Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:13am 
making the game 100$ would stop A LOT of people who live in lower-income areas from playing the game, while doing NOTHING against cheaters as cheaters dont buy the game from valve anyways, they buy accounts that already have the game on it
ktulu84 Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:13am 
drugs are also pretty expensive but people still buys them
emcazxer Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:16am 
What are you gonna do if system Catch all of these cheaters?
Can't aim ♿ Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:18am 
Originally posted by Linda':
making the game 100$ would stop A LOT of people who live in lower-income areas from playing the game, while doing NOTHING against cheaters as cheaters dont buy the game from valve anyways, they buy accounts that already have the game on it

For the lower income area's, depends on account age and stacks of games a person has, maybe that could qualify to have a discount?
Can't aim ♿ Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:19am 
Originally posted by emcazxer:
What are you gonna do if system Catch all of these cheaters?

Celebrate and the cheat admins would probably look at COD to do some cheat work.
Host Migration Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:20am 
Originally posted by borau:
drugs are also pretty expensive but people still buys them
Yeah because they're like physically addicted??? What an odd comparison.
vid23 Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:39am 
Would you be willing to pay too?
Or since you already have the game its ok to pretty much ♥♥♥♥ everyone else who dont?
domiinikk Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:40am 
idk what to say lmao
Znicz Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:44am 
Originally posted by "Wahiba", -------> Mars:
Originally posted by borau:
drugs are also pretty expensive but people still buys them
Yeah because they're like physically addicted??? What an odd comparison.
it depends on which ones, most of them are psychologically addictive, just like with games, it is enough that the dopamine-driven addiction mechanisms work and the comparison is very apt. Boom, headshot, we got the winner!
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ktulu84 Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:48am 
Originally posted by Znicz:
Originally posted by "Wahiba", -------> Mars:
Yeah because they're like physically addicted??? What an odd comparison.
it depends on which ones, most of them are psychologically addictive, just like with games, it is enough that the dopamine-driven addiction mechanisms work and the comparison is very apt.
its not deep man, I was drunk when I said this
Znicz Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:53am 
Originally posted by borau:
Originally posted by Znicz:
it depends on which ones, most of them are psychologically addictive, just like with games, it is enough that the dopamine-driven addiction mechanisms work and the comparison is very apt.
its not deep man, I was drunk when I said this
I defend your thesis and you give up... that's not nice man :P
THE LORD Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:55am 
COD is so expensive and people still buy many copies to cheat.
zEx-M- Oct 6, 2023 @ 3:56am 
No one stop cheating because of the Price, the just sell accounts with cheats like on escape from tarkov. The big version is 120 Euro and there are plenty of esp or radar users.
Valve just need to make some anti cheat and refuse VAC because it dont work, anti cheat on kernel basis is the best solution.
Can't aim ♿ Oct 6, 2023 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by vid23:
Would you be willing to pay too?
Or since you already have the game its ok to pretty much ♥♥♥♥ everyone else who dont?


I understand your concerns. My suggestion was not to alienate new players but to explore ways to deter repeated cheating. Current players, including myself, have already invested in the game. Increasing the cost might deter cheaters who often rely on creating multiple accounts. The value for money in this game is undeniable, and many players would recognize and appreciate that. Ultimately, it's everyone's personal choice to decide if they believe it's worth the investment.

Moreover, the AI anti-cheat system in place is sophisticated and continually improving. No cheat can stay undetected forever. It's worth noting that even high-profile cheaters, some of whom have spent hundreds to half a million dollars of inventory, have been caught by the system. The main objective is to ensure a fair playing environment for everyone. Additionally, the revenue generated should be reinvested back into the game and further improving the AI anti-cheat system to ensure its ongoing effectiveness.
Can't aim ♿ Oct 6, 2023 @ 6:00am 
Originally posted by zEx-M-:
No one stop cheating because of the Price, the just sell accounts with cheats like on escape from tarkov. The big version is 120 Euro and there are plenty of esp or radar users.
Valve just need to make some anti cheat and refuse VAC because it dont work, anti cheat on kernel basis is the best solution.

I see where you're coming from, especially with the example of 'Escape from Tarkov'. However, there's a difference between the nature and scale of cheats in various games and how the community responds to them. While some may continue to cheat despite the price, a higher entry cost can be a deterrent for a significant portion of potential cheaters. It's not a foolproof solution, but it's one of many possible layers of deterrence.

Regarding VAC, while it has its limitations, it has been effective in many cases. It's worth noting that no anti-cheat system, whether it's kernel-based or not, is perfect. Kernel-based solutions, like the one RIOT uses, come with their own set of challenges and privacy concerns. Many players are uncomfortable with software having that level of access to their systems.

The ideal solution might be a combination of various methods: hardware bans, improved AI detection, community reporting, and even economic deterrents like pricing. The key is to strike a balance that maximises deterrence while respecting player trust and privacy
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