Whats the point of ranks in premier if having a rank still puts you in unranked games!?

[Casper Poor]

Winning 10 matches was a torture, constantly losing a match over and over because for whatever reason your team is always bunch of silvers without mics, basic game sense and basic teamwork where opposite team is bunch of well organized pros who have 80% of headshot rate all of the time and you get your ass beaten up 6 to 13.

I accepted it because of the thought that this pain is made so they can determine my rank and then... after I got the rank appropriate to my skills of low silver I thought that when I match into the game I will finally be able to enjoy the game and again THE SAME FRKING ♥♥♥♥♥ BECAUSE ITS STILL GETTING ME INTO UNRANKED GAMES WITH SAME TRYHARDS.

Volvo please fix.

also where are my short matches, they made game so much more fun

[PEPE OSEPE]

Yes there is no ranking system in cs2. Even in MM i play with silver 1 boys who jumping while in a fight and ending with a 0.2 k/d.

[Casper Poor]

Originally posted by PEPE OSEPE:

Yes there is no ranking system in cs2. Even in MM i play with silver 1 boys who jumping while in a fight and ending with a 0.2 k/d.

I dont know who tested that and thought its a great idea

[[Matrix]]

I was doing fine 6 wins in a row, then 7 loss because matching vs 5 stacked all the time.
Im done with the game. Only way is to play full stacked.
RIP CS GO (at least we had community servers there and felt much better)

[Professor Goat]

im asking the same thing mate.. nothing like being unranked and playing against 17k elos.... >.>

[Casper Poor]

Originally posted by アストルフォ:

I was doing fine 6 wins in a row, then 7 loss because matching vs 5 stacked all the time.
Im done with the game. Only way is to play full stacked.
RIP CS GO (at least we had community servers there and felt much better)

They will surely fix it, we just need to make some noise.

[Pizzashot]

You just have to look at the leaderboards to see that the system is broken at all ratings, the highest rated players are not even up against eachother, they are up against silvers or something. So many players with 80-90% winrate, that should be IMPOSSIBLE if the system matched the best against the best.

[B-Ghost]

I really hate being on a rank up game and people just quitting. Why should I lose mmr for a situation completely outside of my control. Also, ran into a group of 4 kicking their teammates because they thought it was funny to make people lose 1k mmr. This system is so broken right now.

[PEPE OSEPE]

Originally posted by Pizzashot:

You just have to look at the leaderboards to see that the system is broken at all ratings, the highest rated players are not even up against eachother, they are up against silvers or something. So many players with 80-90% winrate, that should be IMPOSSIBLE if the system matched the best against the best.

You are so damn right (logically).

[Casper Poor]

Originally posted by Pizzashot:

You just have to look at the leaderboards to see that the system is broken at all ratings, the highest rated players are not even up against eachother, they are up against silvers or something. So many players with 80-90% winrate, that should be IMPOSSIBLE if the system matched the best against the best.

I havent even noticed it lol, thats so right

[Casper Poor]

This discussion got lost in wide sea of Steam discussions so quickly

[bLz']

Originally posted by Casper Poor:

Winning 10 matches was a torture, constantly losing a match over and over because for whatever reason your team is always bunch of silvers without mics, basic game sense and basic teamwork where opposite team is bunch of well organized pros who have 80% of headshot rate all of the time and you get your ass beaten up 6 to 13.

I accepted it because of the thought that this pain is made so they can determine my rank and then... after I got the rank appropriate to my skills of low silver I thought that when I match into the game I will finally be able to enjoy the game and again THE SAME FRKING ♥♥♥♥♥ BECAUSE ITS STILL GETTING ME INTO UNRANKED GAMES WITH SAME TRYHARDS.

Volvo please fix.

also where are my short matches, they made game so much more fun

because elo systems are not made to be functional within the first week.
it always needs some time to generate more overall elo by matches being played.
if youre like 5k ure literally at the rank of most unrankeds. so u get matched with them.
if the whole system would alrdy exist for a month, ud see more number differences as we did in the beta.
then ull see less and less unrankeds.

and obv most people currently are unranked.

[Stona Persona]

Game is just out, the ranking system needs time to put everyone where he/she belongs rank wise.

[Casper Poor]

Originally posted by bLaze':

Originally posted by Casper Poor:

Winning 10 matches was a torture, constantly losing a match over and over because for whatever reason your team is always bunch of silvers without mics, basic game sense and basic teamwork where opposite team is bunch of well organized pros who have 80% of headshot rate all of the time and you get your ass beaten up 6 to 13.

I accepted it because of the thought that this pain is made so they can determine my rank and then... after I got the rank appropriate to my skills of low silver I thought that when I match into the game I will finally be able to enjoy the game and again THE SAME FRKING ♥♥♥♥♥ BECAUSE ITS STILL GETTING ME INTO UNRANKED GAMES WITH SAME TRYHARDS.

Volvo please fix.

also where are my short matches, they made game so much more fun

because elo systems are not made to be functional within the first week.
it always needs some time to generate more overall elo by matches being played.
if youre like 5k ure literally at the rank of most unrankeds. so u get matched with them.
if the whole system would alrdy exist for a month, ud see more number differences as we did in the beta.
then ull see less and less unrankeds.

and obv most people currently are unranked.

Game been out for two weeks already and theres huge playerbase, I really dont buy this story, I am ranked and I should play matches only with ranked people. Unranked people shouldnt be having any ELO as their ELO is unknown until they get their rank. I can wait 5 minutes for the game if it gives me fair competition

Summary HOW COULD I BE AT THE RANK OF MOST OF UNRANKEDS IF THEY DONT HAVE ANY RANK, LIKE WTF, makes absolutely no sense especially that those player are like LEMs or Globals from CS GO with average of 5000 hours in the game.

[Casper Poor]

Originally posted by PepegaAim:

Game is just out, the ranking system needs time to put everyone where he/she belongs rank wise.

But I am in the rank already!? If the game just gave the matching more than 15 seconds of time I would be able to find different ranked people. Why when I have a rank I am forced to play with people without ranks who have various level of skill, usually as it is beginning of the games lifespan they are way over Gold Nova 1.

Like literally, ranks is some sort of skill based matchmaking, whats the point of skill based matchmaking if its not actually based on skill but on voodoo magic. Theres so much unranked people that I am pretty much sure they can play with other unranks.

[bLz']

Originally posted by Casper Poor:

Originally posted by bLaze':

because elo systems are not made to be functional within the first week.
it always needs some time to generate more overall elo by matches being played.
if youre like 5k ure literally at the rank of most unrankeds. so u get matched with them.
if the whole system would alrdy exist for a month, ud see more number differences as we did in the beta.
then ull see less and less unrankeds.

and obv most people currently are unranked.

Game been out for two weeks already and theres huge playerbase, I really dont buy this story, I am ranked and I should play matches only with ranked people. Unranked people shouldnt be having any ELO as their ELO is unknown until they get their rank. I can wait 5 minutes for the game if it gives me fair competition

Summary HOW COULD I BE AT THE RANK OF MOST OF UNRANKEDS IF THEY DONT HAVE ANY RANK, LIKE WTF, makes absolutely no sense especially that those player are like LEMs or Globals from CS GO with average of 5000 hours in the game.

thats not a story.
your statement about ranking not being reset 7 days ago is wrong.
i played houndrets of elo systems. and every single time one got a reset it was ♥♥♥♥ within the first week.
it takes time for the whole world to generate more overall elo.

we could see that exact thing in the beta alrdy, which had the system running for longer than 7 days and didnt share the same problems of people getting ranked into 1-5k.
in the beta people mostly got to 5-12k.
thats because more overall elo existed.
if u do get placed in this elo, chances to get unrankeds are significantly higher.
also add the fact that most people are unranked rn cos it literally just reset last week.
even if the word "most people" can be wrong, it doesnt change that the amount of unrankeds reduces every day.

you can also see it in the top1000 rankings.
i was not top1000 in the beta with 15.666 rating.
but if i had that rating rn, id be top 800 in world.
elo systems need time to generate elo. they always suck in their first days of reset.
so just play and keep the judgements for next week or smthn.