Is there any way to fix "low" fps?

[RWB]

So I have a 3060ti and an i7-10700KF and I can barely break 200FPS in casual on Dust 2. It still baffles me how in CSGO I would have a constant near 600, but can barely get 200 in this game and with constant FPS drops. Is there any real way to fix this or do we just have to wait til Valve learns about optimization?

[....]

Sometimes i understand why camera producers at some point just inflated their megapixel numbers without any purpose for marketing ...

Honestly - what do you think you gain from more than 200 FPS?

And why are people using the term "optimization" so random?

[I fell PP]

Originally posted by ....:

Sometimes i understand why camera producers at some point just inflated their megapixel numbers without any purpose for marketing ...

Honestly - what do you think you gain from more than 200 FPS?

And why are people using the term "optimization" so random?

So why should people be measured against incomprehensibly working optimization of the game? On my 2060 I played cs go at 400 fps, and in cs 2 I see only 150 fps. According to your logic, you can play at 60 fps - there is almost no difference, and there you can play at 30

[KING]

Why exactly would you ever need 600 fps? What monitor do you have by any chance?

Even better, do you get 600 fps in all those other games that you play, and if you don't you call them unoptimized, every single one of them?

There's been an engine change, sure it's a little unoptimized for now, will it ever be 600 fps on the same hardware, obviously not since cs2 looks much better than csgo, things weren't going to stay the same. Things like volumetric smokes don't come cheap on the hardware.

[Excessum]

Originally posted by ....:

Honestly - what do you think you gain from more than 200 FPS?

a) The ability to saturate (and thus make use of) high refresh rate displays (be it 240, 360 or 540Hz)
b) Having a GPU that can draw frames faster than CPU can fill up the framebuffer improves frametime consistency and thus perceived smoothness (less stutters).

[KING]

Originally posted by Excessum:

Originally posted by ....:

Honestly - what do you think you gain from more than 200 FPS?

a) The ability to saturate (and thus make use of) high refresh rate displays (be it 240, 360 or 540Hz)
b) Having a GPU that can draw frames faster than CPU can fill up the framebuffer improves frametime consistency and thus perceived smoothness (less stutters).

That's when you buy a 4090 or a 7950xt. You can't expect better graphics and physics on the same fps. It's a new engine. Some optimizations will come, but I wouldn't hold my breath for them to be able to deliver the same fps you had in CSGO as you have way too many improvements in CS2 that are demanding on the gpu.

[Excessum]

Originally posted by RWB:

Is there any real way to fix this or do we just have to wait til Valve learns about optimization?

First of all determine your bottleneck - are the active CPU cores hitting 100% or is your GPU pegged. If it's CPU, you can try to look at your active processes and see if there's anything eating up your CPU performance besides the game, other than that - nothing much else apart from upgrading.
If it's the GPU, you can tweak the graphics settings, driver settings, lower your resolution - the usual things to get more FPS in games.
That is if you are actually looking for an advice and did not create a thread just to whine about the performance hit.

Originally posted by KING:

Originally posted by Excessum:

a) The ability to saturate (and thus make use of) high refresh rate displays (be it 240, 360 or 540Hz)
b) Having a GPU that can draw frames faster than CPU can fill up the framebuffer improves frametime consistency and thus perceived smoothness (less stutters).

That's when you buy a 4090 or a 7950xt. [..]

And how exactly is that relevant to my reply?

[KING]

Originally posted by Excessum:

Originally posted by RWB:

Is there any real way to fix this or do we just have to wait til Valve learns about optimization?

First of all determine your bottleneck - are the active CPU cores hitting 100% or is your GPU pegged. If it's CPU, you can try to look at your active processes and see if there's anything eating up your CPU performance besides the game, other than that - nothing much else apart from upgrading.
If it's the GPU, you can tweak the graphics settings, driver settings, lower your resolution - the usual things to get more FPS in games.
That is if you are actually looking for an advice and did not create a thread just to whine about the performance hit.

Originally posted by KING:

That's when you buy a 4090 or a 7950xt. [..]

And how exactly is that relevant to my reply?

Because I find it pointless you'd even try and run csgo on a 540 hz monitor, they're a waste of time and money. The person you replied to is right, and your reply to him was useless, since op is running a 2060, there's no shot he's running a 540 hz oled display. The point is if you're running that kind of monitor, you buy the right hardware for it ahead of time and you don't have to question the fps.

Not only that, I don't see how anyone would ever take advantage of a 240hz or 540hz monitor in csgo since nothing moves that fast and objects are stationary, and the difference between 144 and 240 is already stupidly small, so 240 to 540 just makes no sense, just because it exists, doesn't mean you gotta mention it in this scenario. He asked what would he gain from more than 200 fps in csgo. The answer is nothing on a 2060 whatever monitor he used. Were he using a higher ends graphics card, it might get him a boost, but not on that gpu.

From all we know, op might be running a 60hz monitor since he hasn't told us yet.

[Excessum]

Originally posted by KING:

Because I find it pointless you'd even try and run csgo on a 540 hz monitor, they're a waste of time and money. The person you replied to is right, and your reply to him was useless, since op is running a 2060, there's no shot he's running a 540 hz oled display. The point is if you're running that kind of monitor, you buy the right hardware for it ahead of time and you don't have to question the fps.

Your lack of reading comprehension is absolutely astounding, my man.

[George Droyd MK77]

Originally posted by KING:

Originally posted by Excessum:

First of all determine your bottleneck - are the active CPU cores hitting 100% or is your GPU pegged. If it's CPU, you can try to look at your active processes and see if there's anything eating up your CPU performance besides the game, other than that - nothing much else apart from upgrading.
If it's the GPU, you can tweak the graphics settings, driver settings, lower your resolution - the usual things to get more FPS in games.
That is if you are actually looking for an advice and did not create a thread just to whine about the performance hit.


And how exactly is that relevant to my reply?

Because I find it pointless you'd even try and run csgo on a 540 hz monitor, they're a waste of time and money. The person you replied to is right, and your reply to him was useless, since op is running a 2060, there's no shot he's running a 540 hz oled display. The point is if you're running that kind of monitor, you buy the right hardware for it ahead of time and you don't have to question the fps.

Not only that, I don't see how anyone would ever take advantage of a 240hz or 540hz monitor in csgo since nothing moves that fast and objects are stationary, and the difference between 144 and 240 is already stupidly small, so 240 to 540 just makes no sense, just because it exists, doesn't mean you gotta mention it in this scenario. He asked what would he gain from more than 200 fps in csgo. The answer is nothing on a 2060 whatever monitor he used. Were he using a higher ends graphics card, it might get him a boost, but not on that gpu.

if you would have played csgo on 240hz you wouldnt say this, its like night and day even compared to 144hz

your eyes can only see fluid motion at 24fps but they can see any irregular motion at extremely fast speeds even the 540hz monitor gives you an advantage you can absolutely see the difference when someone peaks for example compared to having a lower refresh rate.

[Disposable_Hero]

Originally posted by RWB:

So I have a 3060ti and an i7-10700KF and I can barely break 200FPS in casual on Dust 2. It still baffles me how in CSGO I would have a constant near 600, but can barely get 200 in this game and with constant FPS drops. Is there any real way to fix this or do we just have to wait til Valve learns about optimization?

try cmaa2 instead of msaa and / or disabling nvidia reflex

[KING]

Originally posted by Excessum:

Originally posted by KING:

Because I find it pointless you'd even try and run csgo on a 540 hz monitor, they're a waste of time and money. The person you replied to is right, and your reply to him was useless, since op is running a 2060, there's no shot he's running a 540 hz oled display. The point is if you're running that kind of monitor, you buy the right hardware for it ahead of time and you don't have to question the fps.

Your lack of reading comprehension is absolutely astounding, my man.

How? You basically told op better tech is better. Wow sherlock. That wasn't the point, the point was that in this application, it makes no sense. I doubt what he was asking was the science applications of 540hz displays but maybe he wants to tell you. If you had a monitor refreshing at 1000 hz it would be better assuming you had a gpu for it too. Would it make any sense in CS? No. Would you mention it, probably.

[BearPajamaGod!]

In advanced settings there should be a Resolution scaling option above Nvidia Low latency at the bottom if you set that to quality or balance you should gain another 20 or so FPS.

[RWB]

Originally posted by BearPajamaGod!:

In advanced settings there should be a Resolution scaling option above Nvidia Low latency at the bottom if you set that to quality or balance you should gain another 20 or so FPS.

Yeah I've already tried this on all of the settings and I get no FPS gain at all. Have also done a graphics driver reinstall since when I had updated it recently it had some issues after.

[RWB]

Originally posted by Disposable_Hero:

Originally posted by RWB:

So I have a 3060ti and an i7-10700KF and I can barely break 200FPS in casual on Dust 2. It still baffles me how in CSGO I would have a constant near 600, but can barely get 200 in this game and with constant FPS drops. Is there any real way to fix this or do we just have to wait til Valve learns about optimization?

try cmaa2 instead of msaa and / or disabling nvidia reflex

I've tried a myriad of different setting combos and it still won't go above 200 even without an FPS locker on the NVIDIA Control Panel and RivaTunerSS.

[Peuggéolle™]

update your drivers, check if windows vsync is on, or g-sync is on, turn them off, check if dlss is on or geforce upscaling is on, turn it off and leave it in performance mod, without doing anything with resolution.