5 stack should only queue against 5 stack

[2GOOD4U]

5 stacks should only be able to queue against other 5 stacks

It's beyond ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ridiculous that 5 stacks are able to queue against a group of random soloQ people

5 stacks should only be able to queue against other 5 stacks

[NatureBoy]

that's the life of gaming bro. just accept it

[risen333]

I agree with you

[2GOOD4U]

Originally posted by 𝐌𝐨𝐨𝐝:

that's the life of gaming bro. just accept it

I can remember for example Valorant has a seperate queue for 5 stacks and other games I played too, just doesn't make any sense that the developers don't make this change.

Originally posted by фулл стак=♥♥♥♥♥♥:

I agree with you

I mean who wouldn't ?

[2GOOD4U]

Getting sick of this.. almost every game I play is against a full premade

[risen333]

Originally posted by 2GOOD4U:

Getting sick of this.. almost every game I play is against a full premade

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by 2GOOD4U:

Getting sick of this.. almost every game I play is against a full premade

Why does that matter so much?

[2GOOD4U]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by 2GOOD4U:

Getting sick of this.. almost every game I play is against a full premade

Why does that matter so much?

A full premade is usually on Discord or Teamspeak and are communicating and doing setups/tactics together etc.

Super common for me to play with teammates that don't want to listen and do their own thing, don't speak english or are toxic to their teammates after a single mistake or for not playing well.

TLDR: A full premade team has a huge advantage over a non full premade.

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by 2GOOD4U:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Why does that matter so much?

A full premade is usually on Discord or Teamspeak and are communicating and doing setups/tactics together etc.

Super common for me to play with teammates that don't want to listen and do their own thing, don't speak english or are toxic to their teammates after a single mistake or for not playing well.

TLDR: A full premade team has a huge advantage over a non full premade.

But you just explained otherwise, Wouldnt the 5 stack have a harder time. As if they can only reach that rank whilst communicating, the single queued players should be better as they didnt need such assistance. 5 people that can hold their own, or 5 people that rely on one another.

[2GOOD4U]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by 2GOOD4U:

A full premade is usually on Discord or Teamspeak and are communicating and doing setups/tactics together etc.

Super common for me to play with teammates that don't want to listen and do their own thing, don't speak english or are toxic to their teammates after a single mistake or for not playing well.

TLDR: A full premade team has a huge advantage over a non full premade.

But you just explained otherwise, Wouldnt the 5 stack have a harder time. As if they can only reach that rank whilst communicating, the single queued players should be better as they didnt need such assistance. 5 people that can hold their own, or 5 people that rely on one another.

At the end of the day we are playing a game that is team based, you can get pretty far individually but at some point that just doesn't work anymore.

The premade team always has the advantage of communication and knowing each others playstyle, possibly even have tactics they have used numerous times together etc.

It's an unfair advantage that makes it in my opinion unbalanced.

[Black-Hound ツ]

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[Drax]

Originally posted by 2GOOD4U:

At the end of the day we are playing a game that is team based, you can get pretty far individually but at some point that just doesn't work anymore.

The premade team always has the advantage of communication and knowing each others playstyle, possibly even have tactics they have used numerous times together etc.

It's an unfair advantage that makes it in my opinion unbalanced.

The reality is that you need to play as a team to get good at this game. Solo queue only MM would lead to a severe skill disparity between high elo/Global 5 man players, and solo queue ones.

Solo queue leads to not developing your teamplay, communication, and support skills which are all important for high level play. It IS unbalanced but it kind of has to be to encourage teamplay. It's much better for the game to have people throwing a lot of utility for each other and performing group executes than five players going for kills every round and baiting each other. I'd often prefer the experienced IGL who can consistently get mid control with utility than the player who can get more kills.

Just add people after games or use LFG services (preferably not the ingame one) to find people.

[SUSPECT]

I agree, 5 stacks against randoms is unfair and should not be a thing.

[Nearlydead]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

But you just explained otherwise, Wouldnt the 5 stack have a harder time. As if they can only reach that rank whilst communicating, the single queued players should be better as they didnt need such assistance. 5 people that can hold their own, or 5 people that rely on one another.

Your argument falsely assumes that these 5 people solely play as a 5 stack and never solo or in smaller party sizes.
Grouping 5 people against randoms is incredibly unfair because you can never reach the level of communication and teamwork that a good 5 stack achieves compared to 5 random people.
Sure teamwork is very important but we know Volvo doesn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about that as long as Russians are allowed on European servers. 80% of time I see a Russian I have to instantly mute because they spout Russian garbage. That's 1 player less that can provide information.

There is a reason many games don't allow full teams vs randos as it's inherently unfair. We just have to pray for Valve to come to their senses. They have the advantage of providing a game that a ton of people play. But for some reason they are seemingly afraid of splitting the player base too much, it seems.

[2GOOD4U]

It's unfair plain and simple.

[SUSPECT]

Originally posted by 2GOOD4U:

It's unfair plain and simple.

Yup