People complaining about a lack of CS2 content need to remember one thing

[LTJ]

This is a marathon, not a race. It’s only been a few since since the gaming world got this huge Counter-Strike 2 update as Valve promised months ago and to give them credit, they’ve released three big patch updates since CS2 launched. Just because it’s missing War Games, Danger Zone, and other maps doesn’t mean that this is what CS2 will be like forever.

I would have loved a new Operation to go with the launch too but being realistic and looking at it from Valve’s perspective, they probably wanted to release this to the world now, work on fixing all the bugs, glitches, visuals, etc. based on feedback, and then start adding in new content over time.

There is no doubt in my mind that Valve is going to really blow the socks off of CS2 over time. I can see a bunch of new gun skins, agents, maps, modes, Operations, a revamped Danger Zone, and so much more. I see so many people complaining about missing modes but I can assure you that patience is key with all this. It’s going to be one hell of a journey from here on out because this is the best iteration of Counter-Strike I’ve ever played and I’ve been playing this franchise since 1999 when it was just a popular mod in Half-Life.

Be patient, friends. The best has yet to come.

[LTJ]

King Kilo님이 먼저 게시:

"be patient" said the OP while he defends the billion dollar company that had 5 months after they made the beta public to put the content from the previous game in the new game before they nuked it and prepare a few extra pieces of content for the launch.

everybody knows the game will be okay in the long run dingus. the criticism has nothing to do with that. the criticism is about how much manpower and money valve has and despite that and them having plenty of time to complete a full game like they promised, they instead gave us an incomplete game devoid of content with nothing new added.

Yes because what video game developer launched a brand new game and everything was perfect? These things take time, development takes time. There was no reason to keep CS:GO because it was 11+ years old and they couldn't add/update the game any further due to the ancient coding that held Valve back.

Believe it or not, it's actually a very small team at Valve that handles CS2. This is why, again, patience is key. Besides, the game has been hitting 1.2-1.7 million peak gamers every single day since launch. People might be complaining but they sure are playing this game like crazy

[LTJ]

Renos님이 먼저 게시:

King Kilo님이 먼저 게시:

"be patient" said the OP while he defends the billion dollar company that had 5 months after they made the beta public to put the content from the previous game in the new game before they nuked it and prepare a few extra pieces of content for the launch.

everybody knows the game will be okay in the long run dingus. the criticism has nothing to do with that. the criticism is about how much manpower and money valve has and despite that and them having plenty of time to complete a full game like they promised, they instead gave us an incomplete game devoid of content with nothing new added.

valve actually does not have that much manpower compared to other AAA studios,
there about 300 employees strong spread about since nobody is assigned to work on one thing at valve.

Exactly! They literally have a very small team that worked on CS:GO and now on CS2.

[LTJ]

Valve with ANOTHER 1+ GB update to CS2, go update your game, everyone

[LTJ]

D-D - AKSHUN - I S F L님이 먼저 게시:

This game is dog poop. I feel bad for the people who paid before the F2P era.

Okay.

[🍌]

LTJ님이 먼저 게시:

Valve with ANOTHER 1+ GB update to CS2, go update your game, everyone

It's a GREAT update!

[LTJ]

Johnny님이 먼저 게시:

I HATE CSGO 2 BRING BACK CSGO 1

Valve confirmed months ago that the CS2 update would permanently delete CS:GO. It's gone. That's it. Either play CS2 or something else.

[LTJ]

Renos님이 먼저 게시:

Artos님이 먼저 게시:

Yeah they are just small indie company, have some compassion...





Yes.. but Volvo claims that this is update... Updates don't take content away. Updates don't break core mechanics and once again. They had unlimited time, nobody was pushing them to release crap. THEY FCKING OWN THE FRANCHISE AND THEY ARE THEIR OWN PUBLISHER FFS... Players also didn't push, quite opposite, most people were confused why Beta was soo short. Witcher 3 was delayed like 3 times and game came out amazing, few small bugs but nothing that players cried about and nothing that wasn't fixed in less than a week. This... won't reach CSGO's peak time in even 2 years. They literally did reset back to 2013 with just slighly (not even hugely or decently) better graphics and cool smokes...

so what about all the csgo updates that removed maps and game modes from the game and most of them have not returned since?

The update isn't even a week old and they've already had 8 huge patch updates and bug fixes. Give it time, it won't be long before they get CS2 into a perfectly stable case and can then start adding those modes back after they've been converted to the new engine. Have to be patient to let Valve continue to do what they do best.

[LTJ]

xMovingTarget님이 먼저 게시:

The problem is that they release a featureless, beta worthy game. But instead of releasing it seperately until it is completely done, they decided to replace the full game and just downgraded the experience. And took all access to the fully working game that people played for years with its rich features. For me, CS2 is a straight downgrade to GO. I only played TDM. But Valve decided to remove that in favor of the clustertruck that is called FFA. And also removed to feature to buy a setup once and then just auto buy this exact setup every round. It wouldnt be as infuriating if we still had full access to CSGO..

Why did this replace the older version that was perfectly fine. They could have kept it seperate until CS2 at least had the basic stuff like game modes/maps etc und update CSGO to CS2 at that point. But not before.

Well, yeah, that's a smart business move. To avoid splitting the community for the third time as Valve did from CS 1.6 to CSS and then again from CSS to CS:GO, this was necessary. That way, you get EVERYONE playing the game so they can continue to patch things that are broken, glitching out, and all the bugs millions of gamers will find as they play. They already had a limited beta period which definitely helped but nowhere near how many gamers are playing now.

They've already released a TON of patch updates, two of which were well over 1GB in size. CS2 will only get better over time as patience is key. Give it a few more weeks/months and you'll see things only get better.

CS:GO was way past its shelf life and I'm glad they permanently removed it. It was time and honestly should have happened 5 years ago. They squeezed every bit of juice out of CS:GO for over 11 years and yeah, it was time to put it out of its misery to usher in the next new and exciting era of Counter-Strike.

Everyone complaining now will still be playing CS2 regardless. Some are taking a break until Valve fixes more things or adds new content and others, like me, are enjoying the hell out of it and emailing Valve bugs/suggestions for CS2 to do our part as a community.

[DtoX]

Its literally the same game with updated graphics.

[[PMC] Portable Merc Collector]

LTJ님이 먼저 게시:

xMovingTarget님이 먼저 게시:

The problem is that they release a featureless, beta worthy game. But instead of releasing it seperately until it is completely done, they decided to replace the full game and just downgraded the experience. And took all access to the fully working game that people played for years with its rich features. For me, CS2 is a straight downgrade to GO. I only played TDM. But Valve decided to remove that in favor of the clustertruck that is called FFA. And also removed to feature to buy a setup once and then just auto buy this exact setup every round. It wouldnt be as infuriating if we still had full access to CSGO..

Why did this replace the older version that was perfectly fine. They could have kept it seperate until CS2 at least had the basic stuff like game modes/maps etc und update CSGO to CS2 at that point. But not before.

Well, yeah, that's a smart business move. To avoid splitting the community for the third time as Valve did from CS 1.6 to CSS and then again from CSS to CS:GO, this was necessary. That way, you get EVERYONE playing the game so they can continue to patch things that are broken, glitching out, and all the bugs millions of gamers will find as they play. They already had a limited beta period which definitely helped but nowhere near how many gamers are playing now.

They've already released a TON of patch updates, two of which were well over 1GB in size. CS2 will only get better over time as patience is key. Give it a few more weeks/months and you'll see things only get better.

CS:GO was way past its shelf life and I'm glad they permanently removed it. It was time and honestly should have happened 5 years ago. They squeezed every bit of juice out of CS:GO for over 11 years and yeah, it was time to put it out of its misery to usher in the next new and exciting era of Counter-Strike.

Everyone complaining now will still be playing CS2 regardless. Some are taking a break until Valve fixes more things or adds new content and others, like me, are enjoying the hell out of it and emailing Valve bugs/suggestions for CS2 to do our part as a community.

Plus on top of that CS2 on launch day even with bots was so stuttery and ran like ♥♥♥♥ at times when both teams collided. After every update valve drops it slowly runs smoother and smoother, i have no doubt they'll fix up and make this game the CS upgrade it was meant to be.

It's just a matter of time really, not to say they are free from scrutiny. They really should've ironed out the performance issues before launch.

[Renos]

Portable Spooks Collector PSC님이 먼저 게시:

LTJ님이 먼저 게시:

Well, yeah, that's a smart business move. To avoid splitting the community for the third time as Valve did from CS 1.6 to CSS and then again from CSS to CS:GO, this was necessary. That way, you get EVERYONE playing the game so they can continue to patch things that are broken, glitching out, and all the bugs millions of gamers will find as they play. They already had a limited beta period which definitely helped but nowhere near how many gamers are playing now.

They've already released a TON of patch updates, two of which were well over 1GB in size. CS2 will only get better over time as patience is key. Give it a few more weeks/months and you'll see things only get better.

CS:GO was way past its shelf life and I'm glad they permanently removed it. It was time and honestly should have happened 5 years ago. They squeezed every bit of juice out of CS:GO for over 11 years and yeah, it was time to put it out of its misery to usher in the next new and exciting era of Counter-Strike.

Everyone complaining now will still be playing CS2 regardless. Some are taking a break until Valve fixes more things or adds new content and others, like me, are enjoying the hell out of it and emailing Valve bugs/suggestions for CS2 to do our part as a community.

Plus on top of that CS2 on launch day even with bots was so stuttery and ran like ♥♥♥♥ at times when both teams collided. After every update valve drops it slowly runs smoother and smoother, i have no doubt they'll fix up and make this game the CS upgrade it was meant to be.

It's just a matter of time really, not to say they are free from scrutiny. They really should've ironed out the performance issues before launch.

its a doubled edged sword when it comes to ironing out bugs in a game like this,
when your a company as small as valve manpower wise.
the easiest option is to throw the game out in the wild and force everyone to play it in order to find bugs exploits oversights and other issues, then you know what to fix.

sure you can keep it in limited access forever but then everyone goes back to csgo so you have no idea whats even wrong since nobody is playing it enough to tell you.


like for the vast majority of us who got the first invite 8 months ago at this point.
we never actually ran into half the issues that have been brought up.
as an example we all had decent to really good PCs so most of the performance issues outside of the frame time spike bug never occurred for us.

[Artos]

Renos님이 먼저 게시:

Portable Spooks Collector PSC님이 먼저 게시:

Plus on top of that CS2 on launch day even with bots was so stuttery and ran like ♥♥♥♥ at times when both teams collided. After every update valve drops it slowly runs smoother and smoother, i have no doubt they'll fix up and make this game the CS upgrade it was meant to be.

It's just a matter of time really, not to say they are free from scrutiny. They really should've ironed out the performance issues before launch.

its a doubled edged sword when it comes to ironing out bugs in a game like this,
when your a company as small as valve manpower wise.
the easiest option is to throw the game out in the wild and force everyone to play it in order to find bugs exploits oversights and other issues, then you know what to fix.

sure you can keep it in limited access forever but then everyone goes back to csgo so you have no idea whats even wrong since nobody is playing it enough to tell you.


like for the vast majority of us who got the first invite 8 months ago at this point.
we never actually ran into half the issues that have been brought up.
as an example we all had decent to really good PCs so most of the performance issues outside of the frame time spike bug never occurred for us.

Bro just called company worth nearly $8 billion "small"... Small google search will show they hire 360 employees. Definitely not small. Small would be 3 man indie studio with no money in their pockets. If they wanted they could hire 600 just to work on CS2 for a month or 2. Freelancers exists, you can hire them anytime for limited period without need to give pernament employment...

Regarding bugs, many were well known for long time before "official release", the whole weird situation with "sub tick system" not working correctly was also documented waay before that. Yes it might work in theory, but the delay in animation is real and gets worse with spraying, which gives the weird shooting experience... Like right now I can spray around the player model and hit 10x more shots than while I aim.

Video 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CflQEYsaSlU&t=7s&ab_channel=MrMaxim
Video 2 (a follow up to video 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Roab6aZPlHA&ab_channel=MrMaxim

Another big ♥♥♥♥ up on volvo's side is... they hard coded CS2 to always use 64 ticks with sub tick system. So people cannot test 128 ticks vs 64 with sub tick. Its just screaming, "we know 128 is better experience, but we hope you will eventually used to this delay"

The fact is, CS2 should have moved to open beta, not limited, let it stay there for 6 more months, polish it etc. (You know... the general concept behind open beta lmao) Then once you will see huge spike in player base of CS2, replace CSGO with it. Make CS2 earn its space and love, not push it through people throats, especially when the game is not finished and majority of content not ready...

Valve advertised it as "upgrade" yet it does feel like downgrade. Upgrades just make existing content better, not get rid of it

[3006150]

This is a marathon, not a race.

it will take them decade to finish just like CSGO did, as which point they can can the whole thing to the curb as yet another legacy product, keeping all the past user reviews and scores for yet another inferior released product that will also people off, where fans will say,

This is a marathon, not a race. Be patient, friends. The best has yet to come.

Even though its clearly came and gone.

[LTJ]

sentry님이 먼저 게시:

Most importantly we need a proper storefront with ample skins and easy purchase flow.

Of course. How else will I be able to buy new skins?

[LTJ]

sentry님이 먼저 게시:

Most importantly we need a proper storefront with ample skins and easy purchase flow.

LoL to be serious, of course their storefront has to work and a very easy purchase flow for a free-to-play video game. At the end of the day, Valve is a BUSINESS before anything else. They need to make a profit to keep servers running so we can all be happy. I love their products and will glady support Valve since I love buying skins, Operations, agents, music kits, etc.