CS2 isn't ready for competitive play. Here is what pros say:

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ESL have put out some content on whether CS2 is ready for competitive play. Here is what the pros had to say if you don't watch the video above:

n0rb3r7:

CS2 "isn't ready for competitive"

Russian David "⁠n0rb3r7⁠" Danielyan:

“It's not ready for competitive. They need to fix a lot of things, the movement, the delay with grenades, and the servers.”

Canadian Keith "⁠NAF⁠" Markovic:

"Tapping and bursting felt nice, but spraying felt broken. You couldn't spray at all, it almost felt like spraying in VALORANT."

Turkish Özgür "⁠woxic⁠" Eker:

"Movement is more smooth in CS:GO. In CS2 it's like you're carrying a 200kg bag on your back. Smokes are also different, you can just open it, it’s spreading more than usual."

American Ricky "⁠floppy⁠" Kemery:

"I like MR12, it feels like the extra rounds in MR15 are useless. In practice, if the other team is five minutes late, and we both take pauses in the scrims, then that overlaps to the next scrim we can’t have a break in between."

Now, people who claim that the game is perfect and ready are nothing but delusional, they are mostly gold novas in CS:GO and level 3 faceit and they want this game dead so they can finally say valorant is better without cringing and lying.

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引用自 LordMeow：

引用自 RANGER：

Spray pattern is same but it doesn't feel as precise as it was in CS:GO, what you say is very weird, you almost claimed pros are using macros to spray :D

Movement is sluggish compared to CS:GO, fast peeks are still a thing and it is even worse in CS2, checkout CS2 peekers advantage on youtube.

Smokes are too OP to be honest, it takes 51 years to get out of smoke and it is pretty punishing to go out of smoke. It can be tweaked to be get it more balanced to be honest.

Good no more fast peeking. Bro are u...arded?
He just said movement feels wonky n bad. Not that you can't fast peek. DO you play the game at all?
Its fast peek gallore.

YOu see this is how you know you are talking to literal bots.

Yeah I don't know why the people with low hours and lack of skill have good opinions on CS2 when all the people who are playing good are saying the opposite. They hate good players because they have been bullied too many times by them I guess :D

引用自 khrylx：

it's funny because if valve waited until their playerbase said its ready for release wed wait 10 years

Let's see what's gonna happen, a disaster or a miracle.

[Cpt.P1mp]

wednesday is open beta for all. it wont be full release. quote me on the day.

[VTG]

Just enjoy the games, it's different games because it's like CS Source I think. Not same like CSGO from CS 1.6
I like CS Source and now I will like CS2 when release :)

[Cpt.P1mp]

引用自 VTG：

Just enjoy the games, it's different games because it's like CS Source I think. Not same like CSGO from CS 1.6
I like CS Source and now I will like CS2 when release :)

This is exactly why they wont let CSGO live and update on top of it.
Cuz CSS was so bad, CS1.6 had a bigger playerbase until CSGO came out. So they had split playerbase.

They know most players would stick to CSGO.

CS1.6 20 years old still has a 24h peak at 12k. peak overall 65k
CSS 24h peak 4k. peak overall 46k.
And the first two years of CSGO, people were still majorly playing CS1.6.

If cs2 is like CSS, wich it does seem like atm. Its basicly a fail in the CS franchise. People will play. But not as many as would CSGO.

[VTG]

引用自 Cpt.P1mp：

引用自 VTG：

Just enjoy the games, it's different games because it's like CS Source I think. Not same like CSGO from CS 1.6
I like CS Source and now I will like CS2 when release :)

This is exactly why they wont let CSGO live and update on top of it.
Cuz CSS was so bad, CS1.6 had a bigger playerbase until CSGO came out. So they had split playerbase.

From my experienced, gameplay I prefer to CS 1.6 and graphics I prefer to CSS
We don't know let waiting until Sept 17, I hope CSGO not being CS2. I want CS2 standalone games without change CSGO.

I read in Google, someone claim about CS2 recoil it's like Call of Duty recoil not same like CSGO, I don't know this true or not, when true I never want CS2

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引用自 Cpt.P1mp：

引用自 VTG：

Just enjoy the games, it's different games because it's like CS Source I think. Not same like CSGO from CS 1.6
I like CS Source and now I will like CS2 when release :)

This is exactly why they wont let CSGO live and update on top of it.
Cuz CSS was so bad, CS1.6 had a bigger playerbase until CSGO came out. So they had split playerbase.

They know most players would stick to CSGO.

CS1.6 20 years old still has a 24h peak at 12k. peak overall 65k
CSS 24h peak 4k. peak overall 46k.
And the first two years of CSGO, people were still majorly playing CS1.6.

If cs2 is like CSS, wich it does seem like atm. Its basicly a fail in the CS franchise. People will play. But not as many as would CSGO.

That's why they are removing CS:GO as many people would still play CS:GO and there would still be huge tournaments hosted on CS:GO (not major but something like EPL)

I don't think Valve will let the best competitive FPS game die but it will take a long time before it reaches to what we had in CS:GO

[MAXE]

引用自 khrylx：

pros when they have to adapt to new stuff: :O

Tell that to a table-tennis that we need to put large elastic bands on his feets and arms + setup a speeding airfan to slow his smashes down so his opponents got a chance to win the match

It's exactly the same with counter strike, especially in the latest versions released of the game over the years CS:GO and CS 2 !

They do not stick to vanilla counterstrike at all and are not at all loyal to the game mechanics in the game that make the game an Fps game = Fast Paced Shooter

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引用自 M-A-X-E ™：

引用自 khrylx：

pros when they have to adapt to new stuff: :O

Tell that to a table-tennis that we need to put large elastic bands on his feets and arms + setup a speeding airfan to slow his smashes down so his opponents got a chance to win the match

That guy has MGE rank peak in CS:GO matchmaking and level 6 peak on faceit. You can't make them think, they are ordinary people who play for fun only so they don't care about competitive gameplay at all since they lack that skill.

[CapoFantasma97]

I don't see CS2 being released yet. Maybe you haven't noticed, but it's a closed beta lol.

[MAXE]

引用自 RANGER：

引用自 M-A-X-E ™：

Tell that to a table-tennis that we need to put large elastic bands on his feets and arms + setup a speeding airfan to slow his smashes down so his opponents got a chance to win the match

That guy has MGE rank peak in CS:GO matchmaking and level 6 peak on faceit. You can't make them think, they are ordinary people who play for fun only so they don't care about competitive gameplay at all since they lack that skill.

It's damn disappointing that the game developers listen to people who cry about firerate being too fast on e.g. Sg553 or that Scout does too much damage with its 90 in dmg in the torso, yes or that AWP can tear apart a whole team in 1 shot .. yes or that desert eagle was modified to kill in 2 shots in the torso and 1 in the head !

And not only that, they have ruined everything fast in the game by adding movement penalty on regular shots from low caliber weapons instead of only heavy weapons and grenades!

Yes, and besides that, they have removed the quick switch between the weapons, so you have to see the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reload sequence every time you switch between them, even the weapons are reloaded and filled with cartridges!

In my opinion they have completely ruined the game!

And then it totally turns out that anticheat doesn't work proactively in real time, so the cheaters have free reign on all shelves to totally destroy the game for anyone who doesn't cheat in it !

Jeg håber at de snart spænder hjelmen og fikser alle de problemer, for hele CS´s histories skyld, for det har Titanic kurs mod afgrunden

[☁アンナとルカス☁]

引用自 RANGER：

Turkish Özgür "⁠woxic⁠" Eker:

"Movement is more smooth in CS:GO. In CS2 it's like you're carrying a 200kg bag on your back. Smokes are also different, you can just open it, it’s spreading more than usual."

Yeah no ♥♥♥♥ smokes got changed ofc they spread more wtf is that stupid statement xD

[MAXE]

引用自 ☁アンナとルカス☁：

引用自 RANGER：

Turkish Özgür "⁠woxic⁠" Eker:

"Movement is more smooth in CS:GO. In CS2 it's like you're carrying a 200kg bag on your back. Smokes are also different, you can just open it, it’s spreading more than usual."

Yeah no ♥♥♥♥ smokes got changed ofc they spread more wtf is that stupid statement xD

The smoke part i really love, because i can throw a dmg nade and remove the smoke complete for a short time, flickshot a target and then be hided again in the same smoke

or shoot into the smoke to reveal what is behind it .. i love it

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引用自 ☁アンナとルカス☁：

引用自 RANGER：

Turkish Özgür "⁠woxic⁠" Eker:

"Movement is more smooth in CS:GO. In CS2 it's like you're carrying a 200kg bag on your back. Smokes are also different, you can just open it, it’s spreading more than usual."

Yeah no ♥♥♥♥ smokes got changed ofc they spread more wtf is that stupid statement xD

They have changed smoke length and size multiple times, for you it might be stupid statement but if Valve decides to listen to pros then it would be better than forcing something that is way too OP. Like revolver one shot to body, Valve listened to the pros who were saying it is stupid remove this and eventually they nerfed it. Smokes are way too OP and every pro is saying the same thing not only woxic but s1mple and m0nesy for example.

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引用自 M-A-X-E ™：

引用自 ☁アンナとルカス☁：

Yeah no ♥♥♥♥ smokes got changed ofc they spread more wtf is that stupid statement xD

The smoke part i really love, because i can throw a dmg nade and remove the smoke complete for a short time, flickshot a target and then be hided again in the same smoke

Yeah that's cool to be honest but bullet penetration is not good, there is already no one way smokes anymore since they forced smokes in real time server side render rather than client side so. Idk man I really don't like the state in CS2 right now and yes I know it is in beta but I highly doubt they are gonna fix these issues above anytime soon

[MAXE]

引用自 RANGER：

引用自 ☁アンナとルカス☁：

Yeah no ♥♥♥♥ smokes got changed ofc they spread more wtf is that stupid statement xD

They have changed smoke length and size multiple times, for you it might be stupid statement but if Valve decides to listen to pros then it would be better than forcing something that is way too OP. Like revolver one shot to body, Valve listened to the pros who were saying it is stupid remove this and eventually they nerfed it. Smokes are way too OP and every pro is saying the same thing not only woxic but s1mple and m0nesy for example.

Well smokes are more OP now ... because now i can play in them like a ninja ;) .. so its a good thing for a player like me, that i can reveal a target behind the smoke by shooting into it