Counter-Strike 2

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ogugumo2 Sep 22, 2023 @ 12:02am
CS2 is a big mess
tbh with all the bugs and fails and hackers and the big input lag, i think valve should really take some more months and work on this instead of replacing a totally fine working game with a mess of a game just so they can say they released something new. Everything just feels so forced and rushed. CSGO is ,imo ,the better game rn. sub-tick was a mess as well and didnt work nearly as good as 128 tick so idk feels like a big meh and i will not play CS2 if there are not immense changes coming and many pros and streamers agree......
Last edited by ogugumo2; Sep 22, 2023 @ 12:03am
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KittyKat Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by Renos:
Originally posted by LordMeow:
i got 1 thread on here mr.shrink. so yeah you are full of ♥♥♥♥ and mentally challenged it seems.
ah there it is.
you got any other response other than to default to calling people liers if they prove you wrong. Or start the verbal harrasment. If not kindly quiet down and let the grown ups do the talking.
You are a troll on these forums, just like you trolled my other thread. Bunch of kids with pants.
You started insulting after i said i didn't read your post.
All the better. Would of been a waste of my time.
hsf_ Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Renos:
Originally posted by SkRisM:
Top 3 player isn't immediately good st his fav game? Yeah it's ptobly a cope. That's human nature.
1.6 pros said the same about source
1.6 pros and source pros said the same about csgo
csgo pros saying the same about cs2
don't you love how history repeats itself.

They genuinely had a point about Source though, that game was absolutely garbage and completely broken.

A lot of the pro players didn't move over and kept the 1.6 pro scene alive. It was only when GO came out that the 1.6 pro scene died off, as most of them then moved over to GO.

Interestingly, there aren't many former CSS pro's that made the transition to GO at the pro level. I think khrystal and Cloud were some of the only ones.
RANGER Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:04am 
Originally posted by Renos:
Originally posted by RANGER:
well it is not ready game and you said yourself too many issues so this is not history repeating itself, this is garbage game being forced because of deadline they have promised even though it is not ready
its not ready for pro netplay at the moment. lan would in theory be fine if mine and others data is accurate.
2 months away from online qualifier is plenty of time for valve
I feel like if the game was 128 tick rather than subtick, it would be better to be honest. Subtick has potential I know but animation delay will always be there an it is annoying.

I trust to Valve but I don't trust to CS team, they have been ignoring my tickets and mails since 3 years regarding how broken Griefing ban system that is based on amount of reports and they didn't reply once let alone fixing it. I still have the problem to this day, receiving 14 days of matchmaking ban even though all I did was playing good and enemy team is reporting me by ticking every box and I get griefing banned immediately because that is amount based. Hell, even while playing faceit (which I mostly play faceit) I get griefing ban from matchmaking while playing faceit. Imagine 3rd party community server report affecting like official game server report. That's why I don't like CS team, all they bring is submarine agents.
fsocio35 Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by Renos:
Originally posted by LordMeow:
i got 1 thread on here mr.shrink. so yeah you are full of ♥♥♥♥ and mentally challenged it seems.
ah there it is.
you got any other response other than to default to calling people liers if they prove you wrong. Or start the verbal harrasment. If not kindly quiet down and let the grown ups do the talking.
renos beware hsf and lordmeow and murke is friends on steam they are backuping each oother in threads
Last edited by fsocio35; Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:06am
KittyKat Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by fsocio35:
Originally posted by Renos:
ah there it is.
you got any other response other than to default to calling people liers if they prove you wrong. Or start the verbal harrasment. If not kindly quiet down and let the grown ups do the talking.
renos beware hsf and lordmeow and murke is friends on steam they are backuping each oother in threads
we agree on points. i would say you are the alt of these other 3 nonces. Renos is probably your alt.
Last edited by KittyKat; Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:07am
Chiyoko Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by RANGER:
No one is complaining about changes though, like smoke and all but this is not a new game i want to tell you that, it is "just an engine" update. If CS:GO had remained as a game and Valve released another CS game called CS2 then I would say you are right but it is source engine update to source2 engine. Mechanics can change but if it is worse than GO in terms of hitreg and tickrate then no, this is a bad port
Techincally it is a new game.
It is like CS:S after CS 1.6 but with ported and redesigned some graphics from CS 1.6.

And hitreg and tickrate are the same. CS2 has the same 64 tick servers with the only difference that now servers calculate your shots at the moment of clicking and not in the end of the tick.
All the mess with "peeking advantage" is due to lag compensation and interpolation systems from actually CSGO (I really hoped that Valve won't add this crap from CSGO, but sadly they did), not due to the sub tick. This is actually one of things why CS 1.6 is much better than CSGO, because it doesn't have these systems that cause big peeking advantage, teleports, dying behind the cover and so on.

And you're arguing about Beta. Remember Beta CSGO and compare it to Beta CS2. And look how CSGO got improved for these years. CS2 also will be improved over years, it is just a matter of time. Even if there are some different with CSGO mechanics you will simply adapt, well you don't have any other choice anyway.

Try to play CS 1.6 and you will see that you barely can control weapon there, also the movement is different, almost everything is different, however most players moved from CS 1.6 to CS:S and CSGO, and from CS:S to CSGO. And the same will be with CS2.
Last edited by Chiyoko; Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:10am
hsf_ Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by fsocio35:
Originally posted by Renos:
ah there it is.
you got any other response other than to default to calling people liers if they prove you wrong. Or start the verbal harrasment. If not kindly quiet down and let the grown ups do the talking.
renos beware hsf and lordmeow and murke is friends on steam they are backuping each oother in threads

Actually LordMeow and I were in disagreement on the first page, you will see that. I do not know them or Murke.
RANGER Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:10am 
Originally posted by LONE STAR:
Originally posted by RANGER:
No one is complaining about changes though, like smoke and all but this is not a new game i want to tell you that, it is "just an engine" update. If CS:GO had remained as a game and Valve released another CS game called CS2 then I would say you are right but it is source engine update to source2 engine. Mechanics can change but if it is worse than GO in terms of hitreg and tickrate then no, this is a bad port
Techincally it is a new game.
It is like CS:S after CS 1.6 but with ported and redesigned some graphics from CS 1.6.

And hitreg and tickrate are the same. CS2 has the same 64 tick servers with the only difference that now servers calculate your shots at the moment of clicking and not in the end of the tick.
All the mess with "peeking advantage" is due to lag compensation and interpolation systems from actually CSGO (I really hoped that Valve won't add this crap from CSGO, but sadly they did), not due to the sub tick. This is actually one of things why CS 1.6 is much better than CSGO, because it doesn't have these systems that cause big peeking advantage, teleports, dying behind the cover and so on.

And you're arguing about Beta. Remember Beta CSGO and compare it to Beta CS2. And look how CSGO got improved for these years. CS2 also will be improved over years, it is just a matter of time. Even if there are some different with CSGO mechanics you will simply adapt, well you don't have any other choice anyway.

Try to play CS 1.6 and you will see that you barely can control weapon there, also the movement is different, almost everything is different, however most players moved from CS 1.6 to CS:S, and from CS:S to CSGO. And the same will be with CS2.
It is okay in beta but it will be released soon, if the problems are still there then I am angry. No reason to push it, give it another year and release fully. Don't you think it would be better
fsocio35 Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by hsf_:
Originally posted by fsocio35:
renos beware hsf and lordmeow and murke is friends on steam they are backuping each oother in threads

Actually LordMeow and I were in disagreement on the first page, you will see that. I do not know them or Murke.
good acting maybe you won oskcar trophy? make yours friends list everyone ? NO? liar kek
Renos Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by RANGER:
Originally posted by Renos:
its not ready for pro netplay at the moment. lan would in theory be fine if mine and others data is accurate.
2 months away from online qualifier is plenty of time for valve
I feel like if the game was 128 tick rather than subtick, it would be better to be honest. Subtick has potential I know but animation delay will always be there an it is annoying.

I trust to Valve but I don't trust to CS team, they have been ignoring my tickets and mails since 3 years regarding how broken Griefing ban system that is based on amount of reports and they didn't reply once let alone fixing it. I still have the problem to this day, receiving 14 days of matchmaking ban even though all I did was playing good and enemy team is reporting me by ticking every box and I get griefing banned immediately because that is amount based. Hell, even while playing faceit (which I mostly play faceit) I get griefing ban from matchmaking while playing faceit. Imagine 3rd party community server report affecting like official game server report. That's why I don't like CS team, all they bring is submarine agents.
Trust me you would not want to deal with 128tick cs2. unlike csgo where the game ran on a toaster. CS2 demands a lot more out of a pc. keeping up with the 128 tick demand would be a lot harder to do.
Subtick is the right direction if they work out the kinks with the other things thrown out of sync becasue of it.
I think you may have made someone angry and got report botted
in order to get an automated greifing ban
the amounts of reports needed is like in the hundreds in the span of like 2 weeks.
And the only way the even deal with that would be to email steam support with evidence of that.
Last edited by Renos; Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:13am
KittyKat Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:13am 
Originally posted by fsocio35:
Originally posted by hsf_:

Actually LordMeow and I were in disagreement on the first page, you will see that. I do not know them or Murke.
good acting maybe you won oskcar trophy? make yours friends list everyone ? NO? liar kek
Bro, they are my alts. I confess.
I am the main character in this alt bizness tho.
Since i am the one in CSGO playing.
Rest are 2nd to me.
hsf_ Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by fsocio35:
Originally posted by hsf_:

Actually LordMeow and I were in disagreement on the first page, you will see that. I do not know them or Murke.
good acting maybe you won oskcar trophy? make yours friends list everyone ? NO? liar kek

No thanks, maybe give that to Leonardo di Caprio, who has been criminally overlooked so many times.

You don't need to see my friends list, you can see who I've played with on CSStats.gg. Here I'll even link you to my page. I would imagine you'll not their names in this list or anyone that they play with.
https://csstats.gg/player/76561197960370177#/players
hsf_ Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by LordMeow:
Originally posted by fsocio35:
good acting maybe you won oskcar trophy? make yours friends list everyone ? NO? liar kek
Bro, they are my alts. I confess.
I am the main character in this alt bizness tho.
Since i am the one in CSGO playing.
Rest are 2nd to me.

Technically speaking, you are my alt as my account is older.
KittyKat Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:16am 
Originally posted by hsf_:
Originally posted by LordMeow:
Bro, they are my alts. I confess.
I am the main character in this alt bizness tho.
Since i am the one in CSGO playing.
Rest are 2nd to me.

Technically speaking, you are my alt as my account is older.
you forgot, you made this your alt because...more games?
Also we got syncrhonized keyboards and post at the same time.
Last edited by KittyKat; Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:18am
RANGER Sep 22, 2023 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by Renos:
Originally posted by RANGER:
I feel like if the game was 128 tick rather than subtick, it would be better to be honest. Subtick has potential I know but animation delay will always be there an it is annoying.

I trust to Valve but I don't trust to CS team, they have been ignoring my tickets and mails since 3 years regarding how broken Griefing ban system that is based on amount of reports and they didn't reply once let alone fixing it. I still have the problem to this day, receiving 14 days of matchmaking ban even though all I did was playing good and enemy team is reporting me by ticking every box and I get griefing banned immediately because that is amount based. Hell, even while playing faceit (which I mostly play faceit) I get griefing ban from matchmaking while playing faceit. Imagine 3rd party community server report affecting like official game server report. That's why I don't like CS team, all they bring is submarine agents.
Trust me you would not want to deal with 128tick cs2. unlike csgo where the game ran on a toaster. CS2 demands a lot more out of a pc. keeping up with the 128 tick demand would be a lot harder to do.
Subtick is the right direction if they work out the kinks with the other things thrown out of sync becasue of it.
I think you may have made someone angry gotten report botted
in order to get an automated greifing ban
the amounts of reports needed is like in the hundreds in the span of like 2 weeks.
And the only way the even deal with that would be to email steam support with evidence of that.
I have 5 months old steam support ticket open still, they don't respond. sent mail to cs2team csgoteam gabe newell himself and all, no response. Right now, if only one person report me in the server for griefing, i get 14 days 23 hours of ban. I will stream on twitch for every game i play on mm now, and send it to valve when it happens again. they still won't care but at least im trying.

For 128 tick, yes it will be hard for valve to give us 128 tick and that's not what I am asking for. They have hardcoded the tickrate in the client binary removing gettickinterval and now faceit cannot run servers on 128 tick because of this. I don't care if Valve give us 30 tick servers in matchmaking, I don't understand the point of forcing every server to use same configuration
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