Counter-Strike 2

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Mikel Oct 21, 2023 @ 6:35pm
windows 10 update
Anyone know why the game runs better for me on an older windows 10 update? When I updated windows 10 to the latest version the game started stuttering and sometimes shutting down. Where does the problem lie ?
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
You can always remove updates or reinstall windows. You should do this sometimes anyway.

Also that processor isn't just old, it never was designed for gaming but office work anyway. 2 cores and 4 threads aren't enough anymore, even for office work. So of course this cpu struggles with CS. Even a i5 3470 from 12 years ago is better.

You use a FCLGA1151 socket and there are plenty of upgrade possibilities. Just check out what CPUs your mainboard supports and buy a used CPU. Or buy a new PC entirely if you have the money.

And yes, your guess is right. Windows updates can make your PC slower, especially big updates. This also is the case for smartphones, laptops etc. when you update the software/OS. I would not recommend playing with older software/OS versions tho. At some point user have to accept that their hardware isn't good enough anymore.

Edit: You could also open the task manager and check what's going ok there. How much ressources of the cpu, gpu and drive is used in idle and ingame. Maybe your system is still updating or your anti virus / windows defender is scanning your PC. That makes the performance worse aswell.
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egs Oct 21, 2023 @ 6:46pm 
how old?
Mikel Oct 21, 2023 @ 7:22pm 
If I remember correctly on 19H2 the game ran without stuttering. Now I have 20H2 and the game runs much worse
𝓐мė𝗇𝗈 Oct 21, 2023 @ 7:25pm 
i have 22h2 no issue, but have high end pc
Mikel Oct 21, 2023 @ 8:01pm 
i guess its about AMD drivers, when I update Windows, my drivers automaticly update and something is wrong with them. It is possible if on older drivers I will have no suttering ?
egs Oct 21, 2023 @ 8:03pm 
windows 1803 and 2004 both had a major changes in timers and scheduling mechanisms.
what are you cpu?
Last edited by egs; Oct 21, 2023 @ 8:04pm
Mikel Oct 21, 2023 @ 8:11pm 
I have a very weak pc however cs2 ran smoothly at 160 fps without stuttering in beta and on windows before the update

my processor: i3-7100
i have only 8gb ddr4 ram and this lag's looks like my memory is too low
egs Oct 21, 2023 @ 8:50pm 
this game does have vram (not ram) leak on vulkan and the game may begin stutter after a few games when vram gets enough allocations. fixed by restarting the game, which also fixes growing audio latency issue.
don't know if directx version has vram leak, so if you're using vulkan you may try removing "-vulkan", but you may suffer shader compiler stutter more often.

one more thought: if you play a few games (~5 matches and at least 30 minutes in the game overall) and you do not hear increase in audio latency, there might be another case, which also may cause stutter: you get audio buffer underrun, which caused by the clock drift between world clock (the game, the server etc) and your audio device internal clock.
those who have audio clock slower than the game's get audio latency, the others might have stutters. the game may run a bit ahead of time and freeze to synchronize with the slower world.
Last edited by egs; Oct 21, 2023 @ 8:53pm
Sethioz Oct 21, 2023 @ 9:14pm 
Originally posted by Meehow:
Anyone know why the game runs better for me on an older windows 10 update? When I updated windows 10 to the latest version the game started stuttering and sometimes shutting down. Where does the problem lie ?
because there's no need to update, updates are overrated and unnecessary.
my experience since very first windows, is that updates are bad. almost every update breaks something, it probably installed some background services that are eating your resources.

get O&O ShutUp10 and enable recommended settings, it will disable garbage that eats resources and spies on you.

i was forced to upgrade to 22h2 due starfield and that upgrade gave me some issues aswell. my VPN had issues and win10 decided to uninstall and disable my nvidia driver and wouldn't let me reinstall, beacuse it thought that "default win10" display driver is better ... just FACEPALM 1000x ..

@every windows user - once you have your windows running how you want it, disable all updates and never enable them. google for how to permamently disable updates so it wont turn itself back on. you don't need windows updates, they're completely unnecessary.
i have one of the very first versions of win10 pro on my old laptop and it's been running without any issues for 6+ years.
Mikel Oct 22, 2023 @ 3:43am 
I only updated windows because my niece wanted to play roblox XD
Mikel Oct 22, 2023 @ 5:16am 
i tried to start game with "-vulkan" and there is no shuttering.... but fps drop hard.
Magisk | Falcons Oct 22, 2023 @ 5:53am 
I have 11 more fps on windows

For 10 it was 350, and it became 420-450
Mikel Oct 22, 2023 @ 9:35pm 
i can't update to win 11 cuz my procesor is too old
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Hamsterpeek (Banned) Oct 22, 2023 @ 10:57pm 
You can always remove updates or reinstall windows. You should do this sometimes anyway.

Also that processor isn't just old, it never was designed for gaming but office work anyway. 2 cores and 4 threads aren't enough anymore, even for office work. So of course this cpu struggles with CS. Even a i5 3470 from 12 years ago is better.

You use a FCLGA1151 socket and there are plenty of upgrade possibilities. Just check out what CPUs your mainboard supports and buy a used CPU. Or buy a new PC entirely if you have the money.

And yes, your guess is right. Windows updates can make your PC slower, especially big updates. This also is the case for smartphones, laptops etc. when you update the software/OS. I would not recommend playing with older software/OS versions tho. At some point user have to accept that their hardware isn't good enough anymore.

Edit: You could also open the task manager and check what's going ok there. How much ressources of the cpu, gpu and drive is used in idle and ingame. Maybe your system is still updating or your anti virus / windows defender is scanning your PC. That makes the performance worse aswell.
Last edited by Hamsterpeek; Oct 22, 2023 @ 11:00pm
Mikel Oct 22, 2023 @ 11:45pm 
processor usage is about 15-50% usage and never up to 100% . But for my observation, memory usage is a problem cuz 90% usage all time, and when some action in game coming, usage go to 100% I guess. The problem is my 8GB DDR4
Hamsterpeek (Banned) Oct 23, 2023 @ 12:17am 
Originally posted by Meow:
processor usage is about 15-50% usage and never up to 100% . But for my observation, memory usage is a problem cuz 90% usage all time, and when some action in game coming, usage go to 100% I guess. The problem is my 8GB DDR4
Ok that is a good thing actually because ram is less expensive than a new cpu and much easier to upgrade. Do you have 2x4gb or 1x8gb? If you have 2x4 then buy 2x4 additionally, if you have 1x8 then buy 1x8. 16gb ram nowadays is what pc's should've and it's cheap and easy. :steamthumbsup:
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