Explaining CS2's Cheating Problem

[fweaky]

So as you guys all know, CS2 has a MASSIVE cheating problem. The thing a lot of you guys don't understand is that the anti-cheat is AI based now (no human revision unless manual ban) which means that the cheat will take a while to LEARN how cheaters play so that in the future it can detect cheaters as fast as possible. Things like this take TIME to train so you can't expect it to be banning people on its own overnight. The AI based anti-cheat should be really good in the future as more and more cheaters will be flooding the scene. which gives the anti-cheat more content to learn from. So instead of publicly executing cheaters, I know this sounds wild but, thanking them for making the game better instead. Without cheaters in the early stages of this games release, the anti-cheat fail to detect many more cheaters in the future. Hope you guys learned something from this!

[vvv]

引用自 nokk1：

引用自 匚卂丂卄ㄖㄩㄒ：

Yea ik lol, the reason im saying this is because of new/returning players so they can understand.
PLOT TWIST: What if Valve owns all the major cheating companies like Inuria, Midnight, Memesense, Fecurity, Skeet, etc.

The question is: How do you know hacks names?

It should not be a gotcha moment to know cheat names. Knowledge is power and it helps to understand what is possible from a cheating standpoint as a legit player.

[cincinni]

引用自 foxize：

引用自 nokk1：

The question is: How do you know hacks names?

It should not be a gotcha moment to know cheat names. Knowledge is power and it helps to understand what is possible from a cheating standpoint as a legit player.

I reported that guy cause advertising cheat is against steam TOS, what do you mean knowledge?

[BlaW☮]

Now overwatch is back and too many bans so far. AI was not enough. God bless overwatchers.

[reZZZ^]

引用自 hydroxic：

引用自 875926-859376-538456-3755634535：

THIS BULLSHEET HAS BEEN SAID FOR YEARS,.... VACNET ? REMEMBER THAT... THE CHEATS ARE THE SAME. VALVE JUST DOESNT WANT TO PUT FORTH THE EFFORT TO STOP CHEATERS... CHEATERS = MONEY U OUGHT TO KNOW THAT BY NOW.

Yea ik lol, the reason im saying this is because of new/returning players so they can understand.
PLOT TWIST: What if Valve owns all the major cheating companies like Inuria, Midnight, Memesense, Fecurity, Skeet, etc.

People in 2024 still don't understand that antivirus apps which you do not need anything except Microsoft's Defender. As Norton, McAfee, etc; comes pre-installed with those apps and when you do get a virus even if you didn't browse anything unsafe, Norton will find a "Virus/Threat." With the sale price of $49.99, Norton will take care of the threat....

Tbh, it is not dumb if you look at it from a "BUSINESS" Perspective since it obviously brings in profit however, I feel it is morally messed up to do especially since Grandpa took over almost 3 1/2 years ago. It is sad to see how greed has turned this world into nothing but non stop negative news..

[fweaky]

引用自 reZZZ^：

引用自 hydroxic：

Yea ik lol, the reason im saying this is because of new/returning players so they can understand.
PLOT TWIST: What if Valve owns all the major cheating companies like Inuria, Midnight, Memesense, Fecurity, Skeet, etc.

People in 2024 still don't understand that antivirus apps which you do not need anything except Microsoft's Defender. As Norton, McAfee, etc; comes pre-installed with those apps and when you do get a virus even if you didn't browse anything unsafe, Norton will find a "Virus/Threat." With the sale price of $49.99, Norton will take care of the threat....

Tbh, it is not dumb if you look at it from a "BUSINESS" Perspective since it obviously brings in profit however, I feel it is morally messed up to do especially since Grandpa took over almost 3 1/2 years ago. It is sad to see how greed has turned this world into nothing but non stop negative news..

100% bro. It's good to see that Valve is starting to improve their VACLIVE system since i posted this.

[M4CHIN4TION]

Vac live just doesn't work... None match has been canceled for me... ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥ !!!!!!

[Jazimpac]

Half a year later and it still hasn't "learnt"

[Giovanni]

of 30 game i play 19 was with cheater in my team or enemy

[⋆[MG]⋆p1rate ⚜]

they want to laugh at us they have announced an anti cheat 2.0 which will be released in 2030 (sarcasm) to make us wait once again with a broken game full of cheaters and when the world deserts they will drop a new crate to make us wait again and again the world with games that have absolutely no content, nothing new but old stuff. even hides he announces it for next year they released my favorite games with even less map and that doesn't impress me at all, a broken game filled with cheaters a real SHAME in 2024 my biggest disappointment of the year. I don't do any premieres or competitions, I'm not interested in wasting 1 hour of my time against cheaters.they make so much money with cards and keys that they don't care about their games and the cheaters it makes them more money full of prime account for new account full of $20. They have never done anything before in 10 years against this scourge. I really don’t think that changes now. We've been waiting for their anti cheat for 10 years f ukin game broken.. i have more 3k hour another big problem about the game the fps i have great pc laptop whit rtx 3070 300hz screen and my fps suck lot cant up more then 150 i have impression the netcode suck to impression that not hit the game is very broken

[fweaky]

引用自 M4CHIN4TION：

Vac live just doesn't work... None match has been canceled for me... ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥ !!!!!!

as far as i know, vac live can only detect no spread cheats at the moment, meaning people can still semi-rage which is what happened to me yesterday lol. VacLive's "irregular gameplay" is just detecting internal game changes such as no spread cheats because the cheat actually has to modify game values to be able to do that which allows Valve's anticheat to actually detect that. I think the re-introduction of Overwatch system allowed Valve to be more lazy with their anticheat because they'll just get the humans to ban cheaters. Vac live only came back for one day it seems lmao.

[fweaky]

引用自 p1rate ⚜：

they want to laugh at us they have announced an anti cheat 2.0 which will be released in 2030 (sarcasm) to make us wait once again with a broken game full of cheaters and when the world deserts they will drop a new crate to make us wait again and again the world with games that have absolutely no content, nothing new but old stuff. even hides he announces it for next year they released my favorite games with even less map and that doesn't impress me at all, a broken game filled with cheaters a real SHAME in 2024 my biggest disappointment of the year. I don't do any premieres or competitions, I'm not interested in wasting 1 hour of my time against cheaters.they make so much money with cards and keys that they don't care about their games and the cheaters it makes them more money full of prime account for new account full of $20. They have never done anything before in 10 years against this scourge. I really don’t think that changes now. We've been waiting for their anti cheat for 10 years f ukin game broken.. i have more 3k hour

I mean, having a game full of cheaters in 2024 still happens with other games like PubG and Warzone. Roblox did have a game full of cheaters but they did an amazing job fixing it. I would go out on a limb and say that Roblox probably has the second best anticheat for any Windows PC client and they just bought an anticheat company. Valve literally just needs to use EAC (Easy Anti Cheat) and their cheating issues will be solved for the most part. Valve just needs to have an anticheat that can detect the injection processes of the cheats. I don't think Valve will ever patch DMA cheats either, so there will always be that one kid that spent a couple hundred dollars just to cheat in a video game.

[fweaky]

引用自 M4CHIN4TION：

Vac live just doesn't work... None match has been canceled for me... ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥ !!!!!!

Also ive had 2 matches cancelled since their Vac-Live update, on the day they released the new update 💀

[Gica]

引用自 hydroxic：

引用自 M4CHIN4TION：

Vac live just doesn't work... None match has been canceled for me... ♥♥♥♥ this ♥♥♥♥ !!!!!!

Also ive had 2 matches cancelled since their Vac-Live update, on the day they released the new update 💀

No you did not.
https://csstats.gg/player/76561199166638061
The overwatch update was on the 25th of April, but just for the sake of it/time zones let's say it was on the 24th...
Well on the 24th the matches that were not played all the way, were two matches that you and your team surrendered.
So again, stop lying because vac live doesn't work. Nobody provided real evidence of it, sure there were those staged/fake videos that were meant to get people back into the game because a lot them quit because of cheaters😘🤗

[fweaky]

引用自 Gica：

引用自 hydroxic：

Also ive had 2 matches cancelled since their Vac-Live update, on the day they released the new update 💀

No you did not.
https://csstats.gg/player/76561199166638061
The overwatch update was on the 25th of April, but just for the sake of it/time zones let's say it was on the 24th...
Well on the 24th the matches that were not played all the way, were two matches that you and your team surrendered.
So again, stop lying because vac live doesn't work. Nobody provided real evidence of it, sure there were those staged/fake videos that were meant to get people back into the game because a lot them quit because of cheaters😘🤗

Brother, why would I lie about this. How does it benefit me? Besides I can't remember surrendering. I rarely get that opportunity, it's also possible that the website is not equipped with the tools to detect VacLive bans as they aren't very common. I mean when the match endsthey both end in similar ways that could trigger the website to think it's a surrender due to process of elimination. Anyways, I can't deny what I've seen with my own eyes and using technology to disprove technology is kinda contradictory. They both have flaws. Its just my word that can prove as far as I'm aware. You can choose to believe it or not.

[nkv7]

引用自 M-A-X-E ™：

引用自 匚卂丂卄ㄖㄩㄒ：

I think that unless VAC goes full invasive and kernel level, they will never develop a good anti-cheat.

Hmm .. i think i can find a way where the Ai would be able to detect a cheater without being intrusive!

1. Client measurement in real time or close to it with 90 sec update to vacnet
2. Data packet sent to Vacnet with crosshairplacement, recoils, damage taken, damage given, hit registrations, health, armor, movements on each player on the server !

Yeah that way you wont be able to cheat in the game, because if your crosshair placement aint right compare to the recoils then you got an aim assist or recoil hack on it, this kind of measurement would allso be able to see if your avatar was spinning around on the other players screen and how your avatar was behaving on the given movement where you killed them ..

So when you hold up all the data´s you collect and compare normal players Vs cheaters, then you can see a big difference between thous two groups !

It aint hard, the real question is, will Valve have a total cheater free game ?

If yes, then it is easy enough to get that ..

Yes my friend only two groups. This is people's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ losers