elo gain/loss changed

[Lightturnip]

when i first got my rank i was getting a win/loss elo change of about +200 and - 100, now i am getting +100 and -400 why is that, that can't be right

[Time Killer]

Where do you see those figures at

[Skipspik]

CS GO doesn't use an ELO system and doesn't show the points of the glicko-2 system it uses.

FACEit (CS GO private league) uses ELO, but it's in the range of dozens, not hundred. Are you on the correct forum ?



BTW : ELO for individual member of a team game : very bad idea, it wasn't designed for that.

[Lightturnip]

Originally posted by CatManDude:

Where do you see those figures at

before the game in the new animation, and when you switch sides

[Lightturnip]

Originally posted by Skipspik:

CS GO doesn't use an ELO system and doesn't show the points of the glicko-2 system it uses.

FACEit (CS GO private league) uses ELO, but it's in the range of dozens, not hundred. Are you on the correct forum ?



BTW : ELO for individual member of a team game : very bad idea, it was designed for that.

im on about cs 2 bud, there isn't a separate forum get a grip smart ass

[PatchAdams]

It's because there are now more players and you are relatively high.

As more people get ranks below you, you have more to lose by losing to them.

[Lightturnip]

Originally posted by PatchAdams:

It's because there are now more players and you are relatively high.

As more people get ranks below you, you have more to lose by losing to them.

my friends who have higher elo than me are still gaining and losing the same amount and one friend who was 12 elo diff only lost 100. so it cannot be that

[Cowpoke]

Originally posted by Lightturnip:

Originally posted by Skipspik:

CS GO doesn't use an ELO system and doesn't show the points of the glicko-2 system it uses.

FACEit (CS GO private league) uses ELO, but it's in the range of dozens, not hundred. Are you on the correct forum ?



BTW : ELO for individual member of a team game : very bad idea, it was designed for that.

im on about cs 2 bud, there isn't a separate forum get a grip smart ass

Well, you're posting in the CS:GO forum so don't get so aggressive when people call you out for it.

[PatchAdams]

Originally posted by Lightturnip:

my friends who have higher elo than me are still gaining and losing the same amount and one friend who was 12 elo diff only lost 100. so it cannot be that

It also depends on lobby composition.

If the elo of your entire team is much higher than the other teams, you can only gain a little, or lose a lot.

If you are not lobbying with those friends you mention, then you can't really compare. If you are, then I have no explanation.

[Lightturnip]

Originally posted by PatchAdams:

Originally posted by Lightturnip:

my friends who have higher elo than me are still gaining and losing the same amount and one friend who was 12 elo diff only lost 100. so it cannot be that

It also depends on lobby composition.

If the elo of your entire team is much higher than the other teams, you can only gain a little, or lose a lot.

If you are not lobbying with those friends you mention, then you can't really compare. If you are, then I have no explanation.

this has happened now when i solo queue and when i queued with friends and every game now solo queue or stack

[Skipspik]

Well, that would be normal. ELO (and glicko) are individual and the amount you gain or loss is close to your variance. The more consistant you are, the less you win or loss when you indeed win or lose the match.

What you describe is the variance sigma parameters. Perfectly normal. That's the case for every ranking system out there (exept the most basic ELO ones from the 70s taht aren't used anymore, even in chess)


Now, as far as i'm aware, CS GO glicko-2 system, is used for CS2, on individual map however.
So calling it an ELO.... ehhehf nah. I won't call it like that when it's not.

[Lightturnip]

Originally posted by Skipspik:

Well, that would be normal. ELO (and glicko) are individual and the amount you gain or loss is close to your variance. The more consistant you are, the less you win or loss when you indeed win or lose the match.

What you describe is the variance sigma parameters. Perfectly normal.


Now, as far as i'm aware, CS GO glicko-2 system, is used for CS2, on individual map however.
So calling it an ELO.... ehhehf nah. I won't call it like that when it's not.

i dont think you understand it because nobody does, not how it works because cs2 elo is predetermined before the game even so i think you are just waffling to sound smart so ye stop commenting and this only happened after the patch came out so. ye i dont think you have the foggiest fella so stop acting like you know, if you can't help don't comment i don't care for smart asses

[Cowpoke]

Originally posted by Skipspik:

Well, that would be normal. ELO (and glicko) are individual and the amount you gain or loss is close to your variance. The more consistant you are, the less you win or loss when you indeed win or lose the match.

What you describe is the variance sigma parameters. Perfectly normal. That's the case for every ranking system out there (exept the most basic ELO ones from the 70s taht aren't used anymore, even in chess)


Now, as far as i'm aware, CS GO glicko-2 system, is used for CS2, on individual map however.
So calling it an ELO.... ehhehf nah. I won't call it like that when it's not.

Young man if you have nothing helpful to add please don't respond,

Many Thanks, Cowpoke

[ΛCY|Ziz1243]

Originally posted by Skipspik:

Well, that would be normal. ELO (and glicko) are individual and the amount you gain or loss is close to your variance. The more consistant you are, the less you win or loss when you indeed win or lose the match.

What you describe is the variance sigma parameters. Perfectly normal. That's the case for every ranking system out there (exept the most basic ELO ones from the 70s taht aren't used anymore, even in chess)


Now, as far as i'm aware, CS GO glicko-2 system, is used for CS2, on individual map however.
So calling it an ELO.... ehhehf nah. I won't call it like that when it's not.

Yeah, I know it is the Glicko-2 system. I always thought the value that you get at the end is your "ELO". I totally forgot Glicko-2 takes into account how consistent you are though.

[Lightturnip]

Originally posted by TimmiWanted1243:

Originally posted by Skipspik:

Well, that would be normal. ELO (and glicko) are individual and the amount you gain or loss is close to your variance. The more consistant you are, the less you win or loss when you indeed win or lose the match.

What you describe is the variance sigma parameters. Perfectly normal. That's the case for every ranking system out there (exept the most basic ELO ones from the 70s taht aren't used anymore, even in chess)


Now, as far as i'm aware, CS GO glicko-2 system, is used for CS2, on individual map however.
So calling it an ELO.... ehhehf nah. I won't call it like that when it's not.

Yeah, I know it is the Glicko-2 system. I always thought the value that you get at the end is your "ELO". I totally forgot Glicko-2 takes into account how consistent you are though. :awkward:

again cs 2 isnt using glicko because elo is shown before the match, try to help answer original question

[ΛCY|Ziz1243]

Originally posted by Lightturnip:

when i first got my rank i was getting a win/loss elo change of about +200 and - 100, now i am getting +100 and -400 why is that, that can't be right

I think this simply depends on who you have on the other team and their overall ELO. If you have 20,000 ELO and they have 10,000ers on their team on average, you will gain basically no ELO while losing will lose you a lot more. That is all it is. It is also individual for every teammate but you probably already have noticed that. It is pretty straight forward I guess. I am just unsure what happens when the match ends on a 15 : 15 tie though. Then I believe no one will be effected which was not true in CS:GO.