CS2 already has cheaters.

[Shroomy]

INB4 GET GOOD
The game hasn't been long enough for anyone to master the mechanics yet. Even top players I watch still get the ♥♥♥♥ end of the stick in this game but players with 100 hours in CSGO are full sprinting around pre aim instant headshotting on off angles.
I tried different interp commands, only different I see is movement feels more responsive. Regardless of what interp values I'm using I will still have people bum rushing me through smoke and knowing exactly where I am even if I walk for 20 seconds.
The second day after the new wave of invites I played and everything was just fine, people played normally but after yesterday (Sept 4) I've been having the same experience of dying because I can't react to a 20 ms peek from someone who can't have info on my precise location if they're legit.
Aimware is updated for CS2. There are already free cheats available and to anyone mildly technologically informed can avoid system scans with portable drives. I haven't heard of anyone getting banned recently in CS2 after these new invites so is anti cheat just not working or people already have a work around? I know VAC live is supposed to scan peoples systems when they get reported but Vanguard does the same thing and part of getting passed that Anti cheat is running cheats off a USB stick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U-1LJ850IU
Don't even try to convince me this guy isn't cheating. He was doing this all game, all my teammates were suspicious of him even my friend who tries to avoid hackusating at all costs thinks he was cheating.
Call me trash, IDC. I know what a cheater looks like.

edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJCCdgFcjPk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFNqRabIIdQ
Some in the second video can be attributed to coincidences but there are way too many coincidences happening with this one guy.

[Fragile Pantsu]

I have been playing this game since version 1.6 (not trying to be a professional or cyber athlete), and I know how cheaters play, and what techniques they use to hide the presence of wh from others. For anyone with a lot of experience in this game will know what patterns are used for professional play in terms of tactics and reactions, and what patterns are used by cheaters.

At the moment there are enough people with wh in the game, but not so many with aimbot because it is easily detected.

I hope the developers will find a way to detect cheaters, maybe there will be an anti-cheat with the analysis of player patterns based on neural networks

[javyD]

get a anticheat that works

[MemeMachine]

There is no "true" anticheat that works.
Every FPS is infested with cheaters, best you can do is IP ban certain regions (you all know which ones) and hope they don't swamp back with VPN's.

[duality 拉斐尔]

So sad!

[Shroomy]

Publicado originalmente por MemeMachine:

There is no "true" anticheat that works.
Every FPS is infested with cheaters, best you can do is IP ban certain regions (you all know which ones) and hope they don't swamp back with VPN's.

Won't work either, they can buy HWID/IP spoofers as easily as cheats. VACNet is promising because it's new, but we won't know if it'll even help until it's implemented.

[Goggles Paesano]

The thing to understand is that there are many aspects to cheating. It's not a one-size-fits all thing. Some of it is in financial incentives. Some of it is weak-minded, honor-free individuals that feel no remorse in cheating. Some of it is due to players who feel that they must cheat in order to play against the other cheaters.

As long as players can run software on their PC that can either inject into the game and/or control the aim, this cheating will not stop. The problem is that individual PCs are not secure to prevent the installation of cheats. The anti-cheat systems have their work cut out for them as the cheat programmers, who make a lot of money, usually only have to make slight changes to their code to go under the detection radar again. It's cat and mouse, and in this case, the mouse usually wins. You would need a very secure platform to ensure that cheats cannot be installed in the first place. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist outside of consoles. And frankly, consoles, as they exist today, are a non starter for me.

The cheating would likely decline more than a bit if there wasn't a skins economy where skin farmers and Valve (through transaction fees) make real money from selling them to what I would consider morons who would spend real money on a non-tangible skin that makes no difference in the game other than to peacock their own personal vanity, because everyting today is me me me! Then you have the sometimes obscene money that is made by streamers streaming their gameplay - another financial incentive to cheat. These two go together. Streamers often have skins. Streamers define what is acceptable and desirable to the often weaker people that watch them. Those people go out and buy the skins fueling the economy. Or they cheat to get their own.

Then you have individual players that cheat because they have no sense of honor or integrity. Many kids today don't know anything about honor or integrity since they were never told "no" or taught the importance of work (in this case, to improve themselves) or fair play by their parents. All sorts of behavior problems exist today that didn't exist just a few decades ago. Mind altering prescription drugs doled out like candy by the doctors. Kids are parented by the smartphone or the video game. GTA V is their guiding light. GTA V not really an ideal teacher for the weak minded.

There are also obsessed people. I've witnessed individuals who play this game as if it is the most important thing in life. They cannot handle losing. They cannot handle new players. They must win. They cheat.

You take all of this, and much more than can be explained or categorized here, ranging from the financial incentives for some to the obsession by others and honest players really have no chance. Cheaters will cheat and dominate. If you still care to play, you will not be competitive with them. Some will be obvious (like the guy that has the most kills and a 95 headshot percentage by the end of a match). Some will be less obvious (and will toggle their cheats on and off). Perhaps the best solution for honest people is to just boycott the game as nothing I or anyone else here can say will make a whit of difference.

TL:DR
Cheaters gonna cheat.

[JCourtney]

VACNet is not operational yet?

[Shroomy]

Publicado originalmente por JCourtney:

VACNet is not operational yet?

As far as I know, no. The AI anti cheat is not in CS2 yet. We've heard nothing from valve about it for a while now and from interviews I've seen with cheaters they say if it is implemented it's not preventing anyone from cheating.

[Kalvix]

I mean yes any online shooter will always be populated by tons of cheaters, wallhacks for example are a great one as theres no kill cam so you can't see if they clearly saw you through a wall. Theres probably other easy ones like aim assist or reduce damage taken, but ye, without a mod watching through peoples eyes and understanding the game completely you'll always get people using some form of cheat.

Though ye it feels like wild west right now, the amount of head shots the second I come into view means either it's put me in complete top tier of players despite not having played in like 10 years, or aimbots are just in mass use right now.

[Mordekay ♡ Toxic]

cheat

[RugOp'81]

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Publicado originalmente por TheLevelCap:

Pretending you have high tf won't either. Law of attaction doesn't exist.

Trust factor definitely helps but these people act like it's the solution to cheating. Very naive.

Tell me, why should i care about cheaters or anti cheat, if i only meet 1 cheater in about 50 MM on average because my trustfactor is high enough.

And actually, i do not want a better anticheat. Because i want bad behaving players (players who enjoy ruining other players game) to have a bad game experience with a lot of cheaters and griefers!!!

[JCourtney]

Why would they launch CS2 without VACNet being online? You'd think that would be one of the core functions of engine upgrade.

We need AI reviewing stats over time.

[Hanz Luger]

Lotta scummy people with no games on their account or time on any other games yet wallbang, smokebang, and go off in unranked lol ♥♥♥♥ off.

[MemeMachine]

It's virtually impossible to play ANY fps game today without running into a cheater.
And for the people who say they don't, you are either very unaware of what cheating looks like, or you are the one doing the cheating.

[Something]

The trash way CS2 handles tickrates also makes people look like they're cheating when they're not because with the stupid way Valve is doing their server tickrates a lot of the time it'll look like someone walled the hell out of you or prefired you before coming around a corner, but on their end they were already around the corner and saw you. You ever play a game and come around a corner and notice the dude just stood there and didn't shoot at you right away? It's not because he thought you were his teammate, it's because he literally didn't see you.

There are cheaters in this game for sure though. Hell Premier mode is a cesspool of cheaters. I mean the top ranked people in Premier comp have 97% winrates over nearly 200 games. Even the pros don't get that kind of winrate, yet some random A-Hole from Brazil is sitting at a nearly perfect 100% winrate at almost 200 games and according to Premier is the best player in the game.