cs2 needs a lot of tuning before it's able to compete with csgo

[Koi]

headshots are insane, there's no way your average joe is hitting above 70% hs rate in csgo
cs2 however? its so easy to just one tap anybody who comes in your way
sprays are all messed up and garbage, ak is horrendous
pistols unless it's the r8 or deagle are total peashooters, mag dumping a guy for only like 15 damage while i get cross map one tapped by someone who's strafing with an r8
cs2 is unbelievably terrible, they should've kept the base functions of csgo and everything and just gave the tick rate a fix.
the game runs incredibly smooth, csgo usually has stuttering issues but cs2 has been like butter for me on 165hz.
left handed, net graph, the new buy menu,
all terrible things that i can think of right now that i'm not exactly happy about

my opinion doesnt matter, im just salty
i was so hyped for this and its such a huge let down

current mm rank of dmg and faceit level 6 so i'm by no means 'terrible' at cs, but just now i got out of a game where i went 8 and 21 because it seems like every force was against me.
every game is like that in cs2, insanely high headshot rate (even i'm averaging around a 65-80% hs rate, whereas csgo i'm moreso in the 40-50% bracket) and the nerfed weapons make it totally unenjoyable.

even on faceit with 128 tick on csgo, it feels way better gameplay wise than what cs2 has to offer currently.
if i wanted to play some sort of valorant-esque shooter, i'd just play valorant. it seems like cs2 is trying so hard to be something that it isn't and never will be.
bring us changes that make the game resemble csgo a little more, if this is the direction the game is going, and csgo is taken away, then i'm totally uninterested in continuing in playing counter-strike, which is sad because it's my most played game, spanning many many years.


what do you guys think?

(im salty
thank u very much)

[Kiss Ur Boyfriend⁶⁹]

just play valorant boy

[Koi]

Originally posted by Prince of Sexy®:

just play valorant boy

no thank u that game is terrible

[Moo]

"cs2 however? its so easy to just one tap anybody who comes in your way"
Then that means it's also easier for others to do the same to you, it's a two way street. So the person with the best aim + reaction time gets rewarded for mechanical skill, just like it was in 1.6 instead of the whiff and crab walk fest that is CS:GO.

[mk4ツ]

i agreee 1000% of all u said.

Been playing csgo from first launch day, And tried CS2, almost ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ puked. So bad.

[Zycro ♿]

i hate the new deathmatch, FFA is so ♥♥♥♥. Always spawns in the middle of a gangbang shootout. Deathmatch is just a big pile of hot ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ atm.
Cl_righthand needs to come back.

[=PALMITu ☯∞☯]

HS rate is up cause the shots are more precise... the new sub tick system working.. and I feel the counter-strafe is a little bit slower, so dancing to dodge bullets like in CSGO nonono

[Kamvurus]

skill issue. all you complainers have a skill issue.

[tsunami]

Originally posted by just the two of us:

skill issue. all you complainers have a skill issue.

i see you on the forums everywhere lol
gaben's ♥♥♥♥ must taste extremely nice

[ImAGhost]

I agree to an extent. My skill in CS2 in not where it is in CSGO. Movement is off. Sprays feel a little weird. I feel like people are swinging corners faster than a bugatti. I don't think it's aweful, but there's definitely some tweaks that need to be made here and there to get it more inline with the feeling of CSGO. I think there's also just a huge influx of really good players right now too that are dominating a lot of the matches. Once they get filtered through you might start experiencing that less.

I genuinely could just be bad, but there's something there that just isn't hitting quite right. The game is still in beta though. It's literally there to help find bugs and work out kinks.

Also, strafe shooting needs to be nerfed a little bit. I thought the whole point of the game was the moving and shooting was way more difficult. Not the case rn in CS2.

[mijnnaamiswilly]

Originally posted by just the two of us:

skill issue. all you complainers have a skill issue.

Stfu

[bLz']

yes, every beta is missing polish.
thats just normal. wait for it

[mijnnaamiswilly]

Originally posted by kunai:

headshots are insane, there's no way your average joe is hitting above 70% hs rate in csgo
cs2 however? its so easy to just one tap anybody who comes in your way
sprays are all messed up and garbage, ak is horrendous
pistols unless it's the r8 or deagle are total peashooters, mag dumping a guy for only like 15 damage while i get cross map one tapped by someone who's strafing with an r8
cs2 is unbelievably terrible, they should've kept the base functions of csgo and everything and just gave the tick rate a fix.
the game runs incredibly smooth, csgo usually has stuttering issues but cs2 has been like butter for me on 165hz.
left handed, net graph, the new buy menu,
all terrible things that i can think of right now that i'm not exactly happy about

my opinion doesnt matter, im just salty
i was so hyped for this and its such a huge let down

current mm rank of dmg and faceit level 6 so i'm by no means 'terrible' at cs, but just now i got out of a game where i went 8 and 21 because it seems like every force was against me.
every game is like that in cs2, insanely high headshot rate (even i'm averaging around a 65-80% hs rate, whereas csgo i'm moreso in the 40-50% bracket) and the nerfed weapons make it totally unenjoyable.

even on faceit with 128 tick on csgo, it feels way better gameplay wise than what cs2 has to offer currently.
if i wanted to play some sort of valorant-esque shooter, i'd just play valorant. it seems like cs2 is trying so hard to be something that it isn't and never will be.
bring us changes that make the game resemble csgo a little more, if this is the direction the game is going, and csgo is taken away, then i'm totally uninterested in continuing in playing counter-strike, which is sad because it's my most played game, spanning many many years.


what do you guys think?

(im salty
thank u very much)

Fully agree, cant control spray for ♥♥♥♥. In csgo i was beginning to get better but now it feels like i have to start over again

[Drax]

Honestly I'm really enjoying CS2.

A big issue seems to be performance/delays for people. I'm seeing multiple players spraying behind the enemy rather than at them, and missing their sprays that way. So there's some sort of delay effecting many players.

Another is peekers advantage. It seems way more obnoxious in CS2. Couple that with the SMG spray patterns and it's far more 'run and gun'-y than CSGO. I'm getting killed, and killing, more people with SMGs than ever before. Hell I've seen people land a jump and immediately 1-tap someone.

My main issues though are with the changes to the ranking system and competitive play.
#1 You can't queue as a 4 man? Horrendous change. If a solo is getting bullied then they can mute. And/or prevent the 4 man from kicking them. But you can't restrict 4 mans when it's such a common team count and it just forces us to waste time trying to find people on LFG to have the same issue occurring.

#2 One person can force a surrender if someone leaves? Another horrendous change. You can, and I have, won plenty of 4 mans, and even some 3 mans. If you click 'Accept' on the match, you play it until completion. Someone wanting to leave early shouldn't force everyone else out of the game, nor should they be able to do so without a ban.

#3 Rating system right now is a mess. Too little elo for a win, performance isn't accounted, and you can be playing a full team with over twice your elo and still get about 200 elo for a win. Obviously this is early days but right now Premier is such a mixed bag. I've beaten 15k with a team of 6ks, and I've lost to 4k's. The elo gain is so poor, with a rating score so wide, that there are players of all skill levels pretty much everywhere. Maybe 20k< is a different story.

[swrv]

Skill issue, its the same game

[Cloudy ☁]

The interp rate was just changed with last update to get closer to csgo, hopefully they can find the right numbers to match it up with the subtick system to make it more smooth and even for everyone. the peekers advantage is horrible and playing on ping 60+ when on server not near you is almost impossible. it takes literal seconds for the bullet to register. you can hear the bullet hit and process before the headshot is actually calculated in game it's horrible. ak spray is complete garbage i agree, tons of people say it's the same, but it's no where near what csgo ak control was. i was watching esl pro league and saw multiple three-four kill spray transfers in just a few short rounds while i've seen one or maybe two in the 30+ games i've played so far. i can't manage to spray transfer to save my life that's for sure, and i was more than competent with it on csgo, but now feels very foreign to me. definitely some things for them to tune before the release, but so far it's not all bad at all. the new mechanics are amazing, few tunes to the video settings and the game is absolutely beautiful, on good ping hit detection is fantastic, guns look gorgeous, player models aren't too bad, map remodels are clean and provide new line up opportunities. it's going to be a good game for sure. but it will take time.