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The unfair AWP (Sniper) advantage
I saw a video on Arch's channel on YouTube that deals with the problem of sniper rifles.
The video is titled "SNIPERS: A Nightmare for Developers and Players".

He describes very well why the AWP in Counter-Strike is, and always has been, way too powerful compared to the other weapons.
And before you go off right now, sharing your mental outpourings and describing how unskilled everyone else is compared to you, watch the video.

Valve knows that AWP players would cry if they lost their overpowered advantage.
But Valve is also aware of the sniper rifle problem.

I think that the weapon could be adjusted as described in the video or at least small concessions could be made to the weapon balance.
Also not everything has to be changed at once.

i could imagine:

1. remove the first zoom level

I sneak up on my opponent and hit him 2-3 times in the back. He turns around in a split second (180°). Normally the enemy's weapon would become inaccurate due to the fire, but not so with the AWP. I am dead, of course.

2. after zoom, it should take a tad longer for the accuracy to go to 100% (also works against quickscope)

The AWP has no crosshairs without zoom , but let's face it, players used to draw a dot on the monitor. Today there are tools for that, so:
You may not do that, but others have to help themselves in other ways.

3. non scope accuracy significantly decrease during movement and after stopping it takes longer to become accurate in non scope
4. A shot into the shoe sole should not be lethal (different hit zones, different damage).

Those who have the necessary skills should have no problems with it. The weapon is basically not changed, but only the unfair advantages are somewhat mitigated.
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Neptune Jun 13, 2023 @ 7:56am 
Valve should limit only one awp player on a team ct and tr at matchmaking!
𝐅𝐥𝐞𝐱 Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:05am 
Originally posted by Noob:
Valve should limit only one awp player on a team ct and tr at matchmaking!

And who would then be allowed to play the AWP? It would also be a strong intervention in the strategic possibilities.
In the other game modes, however, this changes nothing and there are often 3-5 AWP in the opponent team.
But yes, it would be a possibility.
fluid Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:08am 
Originally posted by Noob:
Valve should limit only one awp player on a team ct and tr at matchmaking!
THIS IS A GOOD IDEA :steamthumbsup:
fluid Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Dax:
Originally posted by Noob:
Valve should limit only one awp player on a team ct and tr at matchmaking!
THIS IS A GOOD IDEA :steamthumbsup:
like ratakes maps the most valuable mvp can buy awp and drop to the other players XD.
A1mdoktor Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:13am 
looks like a skill issue to me
Ray Benchmark Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:20am 
By spamming this discussion multiple times you don't make it correct.

You should spend more time on the server training and less time trying to change THE competitive eSports shooter, developed and perfectionized over 20+ years.

You're welcome.
Last edited by Ray Benchmark; Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:20am
Nutsnut Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:22am 
Definitely a skill issue, its so easy to counter an AWP and a team with multiple AWPS is even easier to overcome, so it is stupid to limit it to just one per team.

Learn some utility, understand the game mechanics and use some strats. The AWP is not overpowered at all, it is very expensive so high risk/high reward.

I'm not even an AWP player, but i know how to use it and play against it.
NikiUh Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:23am 
Skill issue, cry harder
fluid Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by Nutsnut:
Definitely a skill issue, its so easy to counter an AWP and a team with multiple AWPS is even easier to overcome, so it is stupid to limit it to just one per team.

Learn some utility, understand the game mechanics and use some strats. The AWP is not overpowered at all, it is very expensive so high risk/high reward.

I'm not even an AWP player, but i know how to use it and play against it.
definitely this is true :steamthumbsup:
Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:40am 
This is just straight ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, u can evade an awp with a flash or a smoke, I have a 240hz and I play at high level most of the time, and people know how to avoid me most of the time, and when they don't I kill 4 or the whole team, simple as that
𝐅𝐥𝐞𝐱 Jun 13, 2023 @ 8:53am 
Can we please focus on what is important? There is no need to pick on just one comment. As this only shows bad style. If you have the knowledge, disagree, please refute what is said in the video, as this reinforces the basic point.

Edit:
Oh and 3,143,523 million users have already seen the video, so seems quite interesting ;)
Last edited by 𝐅𝐥𝐞𝐱; Jun 13, 2023 @ 9:05am
Ray Benchmark Jun 13, 2023 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by 𝐅𝐥𝐞𝐱:
Can we please focus on what is important? There is no need to pick on just one comment. As this only shows bad style. If you have the knowledge, disagree, please refute what is said in the video, as this reinforces the basic point.

Edit:
Oh and 3,143,523 million users have already seen the video, so seems quite interesting ;)
There is no point. The awp stays. You have no comp games played or it is a acc only used to troll on. You spam this thread, firthermore sowing you either bait or since the last thread haven't learned anything in the game.

These hurrdurr weapon xy is op threads are plain annoying and lead to nothing.
𝐅𝐥𝐞𝐱 Jun 13, 2023 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Ray Benchmark:
There is no point. The awp stays. You have no comp games played or it is a acc only used to troll on. You spam this thread, firthermore sowing you either bait or since the last thread haven't learned anything in the game.

These hurrdurr weapon xy is op threads are plain annoying and lead to nothing.

What? You seem to be confusing me here! Just assume something out of the blue, why not, if you have nothing else to say. Are you bored? If it bothers you that people are picking up the topic, just ignore it.
𝐅𝐥𝐞𝐱 Jun 13, 2023 @ 11:10am 
It is amazing how a discussion is repeatedly thwarted here. People who want to participate creatively in the discussion are immediately put down and insulted. Hardly have they read the headline when they start typing and what comes out in the end is meaningless or off-topic.

The main thing is that one’s own ego was stroked by denying everyone else the ability to do anything. These are probably also the people who are at the bottom of the scoreboard and scream the loudest about how skilled they are. What is this skill argument supposed to achieve anyway, or do you think we could achieve the goal with a one-on-one? Is that supposed to increase the value of your statement?

I don’t get wet in the rain because I can make super paper boats. It doesn’t add any value here but it had to be said.

I believe it would have been helpful if you had watched the video. This would have given you a better idea of what this is about. Maybe you would talk about it differently afterwards.

If you don't understand the topic or want to talk about something else, this is not the right place.
Do you want to open your own topic?


Continues with the topic here as described above, the video supports the statement as already said.
Fr4ntic Jun 13, 2023 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by 𝐅𝐥𝐞𝐱:
Originally posted by Ray Benchmark:
There is no point. The awp stays. You have no comp games played or it is a acc only used to troll on. You spam this thread, firthermore sowing you either bait or since the last thread haven't learned anything in the game.

These hurrdurr weapon xy is op threads are plain annoying and lead to nothing.

What? You seem to be confusing me here! Just assume something out of the blue, why not, if you have nothing else to say. Are you bored? If it bothers you that people are picking up the topic, just ignore it.

"If you dont agree just ignore" isnt a very healthy way to discuss topics.
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Date Posted: Jun 13, 2023 @ 7:50am
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