CS2: Could someone explain why less weapon choice is good?

[monkey]

Disregarding the UI changes, my issue with the new buy menu is how it seemingly restricts access to weapons. Is there any benefit to removing the full buy menu and shrinking it down to a set of 15 weapons? I could see how the process of choosing a loadout before a game is interesting, but we're not (as of now) getting any new weapons to choose from. It is simply less content.

I understand that choosing a PP-Bizon in favor of a MAC-10 is seldom good, and that buying an M249 on the 15th round isn't competitive or 'meta' in any sense, but it does bring fun to the experience. I'm only DMG, but having the loadout restricted to fewer weapons more or less forces me to forego the occasional but fun guns in favor of meta ones.

Speaking of meta, won't removing player choice make it more stale overall? With the smaller buy menu, how can Valve encourage the use of less common weapons without needlessly buffing them?

[ziXXo]

I don’t think people will play with 2 M4’s

[Nelly]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by Jell0zz:

I too think you should be able to buy the same (or more) weapons than before, even though you have a choice to run both M4 and M4a1 that's hardly an upgrade from being able to pick all weapons rather than 5.
Not sure if I'll notice though, I tend to run AK/M4a1/Famas/AWP/Scout/SG. Which should be fine.

Yeah most people wont use more than 3 yet alone 5.

for rifle slot: m4-s aug awp. awp only for dropping, same for t side. +plus mid tier weapons. perfectly fine for me, enough slots

Maybe its valve way for "classes". awper will have different loadouts than rifler

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Nelly:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Yeah most people wont use more than 3 yet alone 5.

for rifle slot: m4-s aug awp. awp only for dropping, same for t side. +plus mid tier weapons. perfectly fine for me, enough slots

Maybe its valve way for "classes". awper will have different loadouts than rifler

Fair, but 5 should still be more than enough for all roles combined.

[Koishem]

It's a competitive game, so all players will choose the weapon they play best with
But I agree, it's not as much fun

[Du-Blow]

Originally posted by Hogarth:

Originally posted by monkey:

I would personally prefer if we could just have access to all weapons at any time. My question was more so how this change improves the game at all or is superior.

You just answered it there. Before you didnt have the choice to use both m4s for example, now you can. You have more choices now.

So do they also have new names for the buy scripts then? The news also mention a refund option, wonder if that also means that when you buy a rifle & pistol with a script but already have a (different) pistol equipped it will be refunded?

[=PALMITu ☯∞☯]

Its fine, cause you always use the same ones....
Its an illusion of missing something... nobody use all of them..

5 per tier is enough..

And it make the pre-game more tactical over all in comp.

[StealthStyle]

I dont know why my post was deleted, it wasn't on topic sure and i wrote it before reading the news updates-4 minutes ago...But mods- is there a secret code to us who had invites not sharing info on cs2?

[StealthStyle]

ps the new weapon choice lobby is stylish in my oppinion and i like the idea of picking and choosing which smg/shotgun/assualt rifle/snipers to use..as long as you can have either smg's or cheaper shotties early or eco rounds...PS hopefully this means less Negevs to be in game soon.

[Mango]

Originally posted by monkey:

Originally posted by francisco:

+++

why have skins for every weapon if you can only use like 2 of each... i like to use nova, mag 7 and xm sometimes, why can i only choose one

Agreed.

apart from the skins, I concur. I like choice. Also let us have the option to keep the wheel buy menu.

[Mango]

Originally posted by Du-Blow:

Originally posted by Hogarth:

You just answered it there. Before you didnt have the choice to use both m4s for example, now you can. You have more choices now.

So do they also have new names for the buy scripts then? The news also mention a refund option, wonder if that also means that when you buy a rifle & pistol with a script but already have a (different) pistol equipped it will be refunded?

What is the point of a refund system, is it because Valorant or some game has that feature? You think in a competitive nature players competing should be focused enough to pick the right gun, sure mistakes happen but that makes the game even more excititing when you have to adapt to the situation. Tbh I think valave is just changing things because it wouldn't be much of an update with only a few updates.

[PatchAdams]

Originally posted by Koishem:

It's a competitive game, so all players will choose the weapon they play best with
But I agree, it's not as much fun

That's what I use DM for. Fun to walk around Vertigo with an M249 mindlessly going BRRR when there's nothing at stake.

But if you think back to all the show matches where pros pulled out Negevs or Bizons... Some good times there.

[Du-Blow]

Originally posted by Mango:

Originally posted by Du-Blow:

So do they also have new names for the buy scripts then? The news also mention a refund option, wonder if that also means that when you buy a rifle & pistol with a script but already have a (different) pistol equipped it will be refunded?

What is the point of a refund system, is it because Valorant or some game has that feature? You think in a competitive nature players competing should be focused enough to pick the right gun, sure mistakes happen but that makes the game even more excititing when you have to adapt to the situation. Tbh I think valave is just changing things because it wouldn't be much of an update with only a few updates.

Nevermind, I totally forgot that they already have names for all the guns, I just used the "synonymous" option too much where AK,m4a1 or m4a1_silencer work the same way to buy a AK/M4(s).

[StealthStyle]

ok middle tier, bb gun bizon or mac 10? my mac 10' skins pink and i hate pink and my bb gun bizon has a cool skin with a stat trak and is fun running at awpers...(im joking sort of but bizon is under rated since the buff)

[Max]

mac 10 if you want rank up

[Valerie]

Before I didn't really understand the system in depth but looking into it, it's interesting. Giving up the ability to buy like an AWP/Scout/AUG in favor of other things is something I'm not sure how I feel about.

I do love the overhaul to how the menu looks over the wheel though without a doubt.