Why don't they try to prevent smurfing?

[Poots]

I'm not good at this game, so I'm always stuck in silver. I don't think i have played a single game where there's not at least 2 smurfs in it. I don't know if the issue is common in high rank lobbies, but silver is pretty brutal for new or bad players.

If i'm ♥♥♥♥ at the game, I should be playing people that are also ♥♥♥♥. In other games from valve such as Dota, smurfing is bannable. So why don't they implement the same thing here?

As a side note, if you have to smurf to do good, maybe you need to accept that you wont be a pro, So stop trying to feel like it by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on lower skilled players. If you wanna feel special, go play casual.

[Nelly]

Originally posted by Ray Benchmark:

You could also be considered a smurf if you've an alt account you play on (which is similar to the rank of your main tho) or are unintentionally lower ranked (because for example of rank decay) but in both cases you are not a smurf.

Thats what smurfs are always doing... Having an alt with rank decay to play as a smurf

Edit: and for me thats cheating. Because you use something to get an unfair advantage over someone else

[SG-007]

because they already couldnt prevent cheating and prevent legit players playing on their alts are impossible if you dont want to get intrusive.

[swrv]

Originally posted by Poots:

Originally posted by WETEMUP:

Instead of saying smurf just day people that are better than me, then you can own not being as good as them and learn to overcome your limitations

In the post, i say multiple times that i know that I'm not good. Just because i'm not good doesn't mean I want to play against people purposely playing against easier opponents so that they can get a clip or two and think they're pro.

I get your point, but it is not easy to learn from players who don't give you the chance. The game tries to face you against slightly higher skilled players for this reason, but smurfing isn't the same situation.

Clearly all of this is out of your control so the best thing you can do is work on you, it is the only thing you can consistently change

[I've got canser]

smufing makes valve loads of money

[Max]

When smurfing is bannale? Smurf means you will have additional account to access the game nothing else.


Banks has multi accounts system they won't call you a theft.
Artist use multi accounts as normally too.

Having more than one account does not mean you are bad guy.

[Poots]

Originally posted by @xMaxrayx:

When smurfing is bannale? Smurf means you will have additional account to access the game nothing else.


Banks has multi accounts system they won't call you a theft.
Artist use multi accounts as normally too.

Having more than one account does not mean you are bad guy.

Smurfing is creating a fresh account with the intent to play against new/low skilled players. There is nothing wrong with Having a multiple accounts if you aren't doing so with ill intent.

[Max]

Originally posted by Poots:

Originally posted by @xMaxrayx:

When smurfing is bannale? Smurf means you will have additional account to access the game nothing else.


Banks has multi accounts system they won't call you a theft.
Artist use multi accounts as normally too.

Having more than one account does not mean you are bad guy.

Smurfing is creating a fresh account with the intent to play against new/low skilled players. There is nothing wrong with Having a multiple accounts if you aren't doing so with ill intent.

What if his old account get banned/ low trust factor?

What if he wants to play with his gf but don't want use his main account because it will affect his status?

What if he wants more case drop?

Also what is "ill" ? If he was really good he will rank up faster (if he gets more win rounds).

[Nelly]

Originally posted by @xMaxrayx:

Originally posted by Poots:

Smurfing is creating a fresh account with the intent to play against new/low skilled players. There is nothing wrong with Having a multiple accounts if you aren't doing so with ill intent.

What if his old account get banned/ low trust factor?

Are you really defending smurfing with "banned account"?

Banned account -> shouldnt be able to play csgo/cs2 ever again

What if he wants to play with his gf but don't want use his main account because it will affect his status?

unranked mode.

the good old "i want to paly with my friends, that why iam smurfing"

as i said, people defend and love smurfing.

[Arby404]

because it makes valve tons of money, prime matchmaking isnt free yknow

[pagozh]

Smurfs are morons who are getting bashed are their High Rank level,
so they have this need to hit lowers one...
Lowers humans...

[Nelly]

Originally posted by arbY:

because it makes valve tons of money, prime matchmaking isnt free yknow

valve could punish smurfs after they buy prime tho

[temper]

Originally posted by Nelly:

Originally posted by arbY:

because it makes valve tons of money, prime matchmaking isnt free yknow

valve could punish smurfs after they buy prime tho

Valve isn't going to punish a legitimate customer that hasn't broken any rules. The amount of resources that would be needed to prove if someone is smurfing would also make it far from worth doing.

Not to mention rank decay is a thing and you can end up in lower ranks just from being too busy with life. Also what happens to people that already have multiple accounts? Do they get fathered in or do they get banned on all of their accounts except one?

[Ray Benchmark]

Originally posted by Nelly:

Originally posted by Ray Benchmark:

You could also be considered a smurf if you've an alt account you play on (which is similar to the rank of your main tho) or are unintentionally lower ranked (because for example of rank decay) but in both cases you are not a smurf.

Thats what smurfs are always doing... Having an alt with rank decay to play as a smurf

Edit: and for me thats cheating. Because you use something to get an unfair advantage over someone else

Well as I said it's not necessary to have an alt for that. You could also have one account only for that.

Also it's not cheating no matter how we spin it. Smurfing is smurfing with all what comes with it. It is something else than griefing or cheating. All have clear indications and explanations and all require a player to do very specific thikgs to fall under that term.

That doesn't mean that a smurf can't also be a griefer. If he got to said lower rank with the help of griefing, he simply is both.

If someone intentionally deranks by throwing games it's griefing, if he then starts cheating innway lower games he is also smurfing and cheating and he does all three things.

I'm technically also a smurf. Using only one acc 99% of the time but only beeing DMG currently. That beeing said, I don't derank on purpose. Thus not a smurf. Not my fault that personal performance and other silly systems like ranking decay are not set correctly to group player on equal skill.

[hsf_]

Smurfing way below your main ranking is abhorrent and negates the whole point of the ELO system.

I get that some of you want to just chill and not play serious sometimes, but it just makes it ♥♥♥♥ for lower ranked players.

I'm not against having multiple accounts as I have multiple accounts, but have them for decent reasons like increasing your case drops or giving you more chance to get something good in the operations. Don't have multiple accounts just to ♥♥♥♥ on the lesser players and boost your ego, it's cringe.

[datguyy]

Originally posted by Nelly:

Originally posted by @xMaxrayx:

What if his old account get banned/ low trust factor?

Are you really defending smurfing with "banned account"?

Banned account -> shouldnt be able to play csgo/cs2 ever again

What if he wants to play with his gf but don't want use his main account because it will affect his status?

unranked mode.

the good old "i want to paly with my friends, that why iam smurfing"

as i said, people defend and love smurfing.

The thing is, I am also trying to learn my gf play cs as she wants to join me and my friends since we're only playing for fun and that works great as long as we are a full lobby, we are all way past the point where we care about our ranks blabla. Ive been playing this game since release date.

But she does constantly get kicked by people in the lower ranks which do and do not smurf because she is obv very bad since shes a new player who doesnt know the calls, places, spray control, nades etc etc. I dont even understand why as you dont really get any advantages anymore since they removed the possibility to control bots.

New players to this game do not really get a chance to learn it; as many people in the lower ranks already knows how to call, where to aim, economy etcetc and are too obsessed with reaching new ranks which they struggle with due all the smurfers.
So the way I "smurf" is to let my teammates do their thing and not go bat sh%t crazy as most smurfers like to do just so I can prevent her getting kicked and try to learn her the calls etc. Without this she would use sooooo much time to even get the chance to get to learn this game which probably would resulted in her stop playing the game..