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Unpopular opinion: Valve is overly greedy and the fans just eat it up.
Valve is so ridiculously greedy, that in 2023 their new game is still gonna run on 64 tick. But because the average player is a gullible sheep, they call it "sub-tick" and the player base just eats it up. This company doesn't deserve the love it gets. "sub-tick" is never going to be nearly as good as 128 tick, and deep down, you know i'm right. Valve makes so much money at this point, that adding and maintaining 128 tick servers would cost them pennies, but they don't, because they never get real backlash. They know they can just come up with some technical term like "sub-tick" and the community will simply just eat it up.
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two two nine May 2, 2023 @ 10:16am 
Thanks henry
MAXE (Banned) May 2, 2023 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by just chillin, Drew.:
Valve is so ridiculously greedy, that in 2023 their new game is still gonna run on 64 tick. But because the average player is a gullible sheep, they call it "sub-tick" and the player base just eats it up. This company doesn't deserve the love it gets. "sub-tick" is never going to be nearly as good as 128 tick, and deep down, you know i'm right. Valve makes so much money at this point, that adding and maintaining 128 tick servers would cost them pennies, but they don't, because they never get real backlash. They know they can just come up with some technical term like "sub-tick" and the community will simply just eat it up.

it will lower the latency between the clients with 50% .. so instead people got 15,625 ms to the server, then it will be half with 128 tick so like 7,8125 ms.. that is why it is used in lan to give a lower ping between the clients, but it is alot more demanding for the servers !
Last edited by MAXE; May 2, 2023 @ 11:10am
76561199501292322 May 2, 2023 @ 12:23pm 
Originally posted by just chillin, Drew.:
Valve is so ridiculously greedy, that in 2023 their new game is still gonna run on 64 tick. But because the average player is a gullible sheep, they call it "sub-tick" and the player base just eats it up. This company doesn't deserve the love it gets. "sub-tick" is never going to be nearly as good as 128 tick, and deep down, you know i'm right. Valve makes so much money at this point, that adding and maintaining 128 tick servers would cost them pennies, but they don't, because they never get real backlash. They know they can just come up with some technical term like "sub-tick" and the community will simply just eat it up.

A well informed opinion will always be unpopular in this garbage game community.
Markevich May 2, 2023 @ 12:23pm 
nice
KM May 2, 2023 @ 12:37pm 
Yea, They took all my "trustfactor" and threw it in the trash cause I refunded a 20 dollar game. Gotta love valve.
Hamless Hog May 2, 2023 @ 12:43pm 
Its not like valve is a not for profit company.
󠁳 May 2, 2023 @ 12:48pm 
If you feel 64 tick is uncomfortable for you, play FaceIt 128 tick servers then.
Most of players won't even notice the difference between 64 and 128 anyway.
Hamless Hog May 2, 2023 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:
Originally posted by just chillin, Drew.:
Valve is so ridiculously greedy, that in 2023 their new game is still gonna run on 64 tick. But because the average player is a gullible sheep, they call it "sub-tick" and the player base just eats it up. This company doesn't deserve the love it gets. "sub-tick" is never going to be nearly as good as 128 tick, and deep down, you know i'm right. Valve makes so much money at this point, that adding and maintaining 128 tick servers would cost them pennies, but they don't, because they never get real backlash. They know they can just come up with some technical term like "sub-tick" and the community will simply just eat it up.

it will lower the latency between the clients with 50% .. so instead people got 15,625 ms to the server, then it will be half with 128 tick so like 7,8125 ms.. that is why it is used in lan to give a lower ping between the clients, but it is alot more demanding for the servers !
Thats not what tickrate does at all. Lans dont have latency.
ktulu84 May 2, 2023 @ 12:52pm 
valve isnt just csgo
MAXE (Banned) May 2, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
Originally posted by Hogarth:
Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:

it will lower the latency between the clients with 50% .. so instead people got 15,625 ms to the server, then it will be half with 128 tick so like 7,8125 ms.. that is why it is used in lan to give a lower ping between the clients, but it is alot more demanding for the servers !
Thats not what tickrate does at all. Lans dont have latency.

:steamlaughcry:
Players have been asking for 128 tick on MM since CS:GO was released and if they haven't done it by now, I'm sure there's at least one legitimate reason other than "greed."

Regardless, sub-tick will be fine in 99.9999% of scenarios and is leagues better than just standard 64 tick servers. It's not just marketing mumbo jumbo, its an actual thing. It refers to a system where your inputs, instead of being calculated on a per tick basis on the servers end, are calculated immediately on your PCs end and then sent to the server. Meaning your inputs are immediately registered rather than being bound to the tick-rate of the server.

Would 128 be better? Sure, but its an improvement nonetheless so stop ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Max May 2, 2023 @ 1:07pm 
valorant and some other games they have more than 64 tickrate, why this game still doesn't have it? I don't want to buy other 3rd parties MM.
V May 2, 2023 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by @xMaxrayx:
valorant and some other games they have more than 64 tickrate, why this game still doesn't have it? I don't want to buy other 3rd parties MM.
you think valorant servers are 128 tick?
Hamless Hog May 2, 2023 @ 1:10pm 
Originally posted by M-A-X-E ™:
Originally posted by Hogarth:
Thats not what tickrate does at all. Lans dont have latency.

:steamlaughcry:
You didnt seriously think thats what it was did you?
elTucik May 2, 2023 @ 1:14pm 
like HOW????? VALVE[STEAM} make CS GO FREE. Dota2 free what i actually make only subsrcriajeble XDXDXD you know what i mean cs go too... YOU UNGRETFULL ♥♥♥♥♥ . ♥♥♥♥ YOU. YOU CHOSE TO BUY SKINS AND GAMES so WTF HAS IT WITH VALVLE and steam?????
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Date Posted: May 2, 2023 @ 10:04am
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