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Careo Jun 21, 2023 @ 2:32am
Unplayable?Is it Trust Factor? Cheaters Everywhere??
So i basically play together with my friends most of the time, who aren´t the best at csgo lets say. This results in my rank to be lower than i could achieve. Most of the time i play very layed back and carry them anyways.
But a couple of months ago something we started to realize, that some of our enemys are cheating, which really never happened around the end of 2022 when we played. And for the last 2-3 months it gotten really bad. Cheaters about every 3-4 games.
the real problem though is when i try to solo queue. Queue times can take longer than 30 mins (with maps:Inferno,Dust2,Mirage,Cache Rank: MG2,MGE,DMG).
Sometimes i get queued against 5 Stack where one is Triggerbotting or even all 5 were and all ranked around lem to global elite when im MGE.
In these Lobbys there are always newer account in the enemy team and in my team and i kid u not 9 out of 10 games theres a cheater. i started to review every demo when i suspected something (which was every solo match) and it was more than obvious. They dont even try to hide it most of the time.
This has been going on for like a month or so and i cant imagine that everybody else is expriencing cheaters in almost every single game.
Is it my Trust Factor? Even so, why isnt it getting better? (friends dont get message that my trust factor is low)
Maybe there are just way too many cheaters and i get unlucky queuing vs them?
Skill issue? doubt it. like i said playing with my friends and carrying when i want to is no problem and i review every demo afterwards (which most of the time is completely useless, because they make it that obvious)
What is going on?
Last edited by Careo; Jun 21, 2023 @ 2:49am
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wieczorek.stg Jun 21, 2023 @ 2:54am 
Yep i feel the same recently
No worries. Cheat apologist brigade will soon come and tell you there are barely any cheaters and it is only you or your lack of skills.

While in reality there is a huge cheaters problem as CS2 is on the way and they want to take advantage while they can.

Looks like only option is to enjoy those few matches you get cheater free.
backpain Jun 21, 2023 @ 4:39am 
I gave up on playing consistently in 2020. One of the main reasons is because of the cheating/trust factor issue. Cheating has always been a problem in CSGO there is no denying it, but the trust system while making it better for maybe 5% of the population has destroyed the everyday mm experience, especially for newer players, which in turn has destroyed the influx of new players. Sure there are tons of people playing, but it is for the skins, not the mm experience. Every time I play MM with someone just starting out it never fails we get cheaters in every game, and they almost always move on to other games. The lower/middle ranks are the worst because cheaters can run around being fairly non blatant because of the lack of teamwork and skill means they can easily hide their cheats while working their way up the ranks. It isn't until months later that they are eventually banned in the higher ranks when they have to full on rage. But in that meantime they have ruined the enjoyment of hundreds of players. Then they rinse and repeat, it is a sad situation.
Nutsnut Jun 21, 2023 @ 4:45am 
This is a strange one if the change in behaviour/increase in cheaters has only occured recenltly as that would suggest a change in your trust score etc if the changes are consistent as you descibed.

You VAC banned is now really old and doesn't show on your profile anymore, but if this was the reason for low trust etc. it would have been persistent and not just recently changed unless Valve has changed something at there end.

You may be low trust, you long queue times and frequency of facing cheating oponents indicates that. Your teammates may not be recieving a warning as their trust may be similar to yours, but that wouldn't explain why you see more cheaters whilst solo queuing.
MAXE Jun 21, 2023 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by DoG-SoLdIeR - Kajsmentke 2EZ:
No worries. Cheat apologist brigade will soon come and tell you there are barely any cheaters and it is only you or your lack of skills.

While in reality there is a huge cheaters problem as CS2 is on the way and they want to take advantage while they can.

Looks like only option is to enjoy those few matches you get cheater free.

Wich is very very rare if you solo que or not with a full team. 😏

How to stay positive in this mess? 🤣😆🥴😁🤭
I also started play CS:GO recently.
I always stay chill never insult or anything.
Play as decent as possible. Im not noob but im not perfect either. I do die to stupid things sometimes but i always have fun.

However Trustfactor doesn't work.
I played with my friend which he has a good trustfactor. And then i played my self. Deathmatch generally.

And there is A LOT OF cheaters.
4 or 5 each match. Reporting does nothing.
They have either premium cheats or just throw away accounts.

I mean..
Trust factor doesn't work.
Cheaters everywhere.

Only way to save yourself from this mess is to pay to VALVe.
Since Prime has less cheaters than F2P.

I don't get it...
Why ??
Why do i have to pay money,just to be able to enjoy a game that is free to play already ??
It's obvious VALVe don't give a ♥♥♥♥ anymore about their Server-side anti cheat.
But damn. I didn't know they throw all the F2P's to trash without any explanation.
MAXE Jun 21, 2023 @ 5:48am 
Valve´s server sided anticheat system only works if it collect the data from all the clients in the match and compare them .. In the numbers you can see if someone is cheating or not .. that goes from everything like crosshairplacement, recoils, hit registrations, damage given and taken .. how hard can it be to setup a meassurement like that ?

They allready have it if you subscribe to it .. how about valve use it as a part of the anticheat solution in all game modes ?

Because i really dont care about the stats, all i care about is that the game is cheater free and dont have bugs and glitches to abuse !
Last edited by MAXE; Jun 21, 2023 @ 5:49am
yyds110yyds Jun 21, 2023 @ 5:50am 
hello
DEREK Jun 21, 2023 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:
I also started play CS:GO recently.
I always stay chill never insult or anything.
Play as decent as possible. Im not noob but im not perfect either. I do die to stupid things sometimes but i always have fun.

However Trustfactor doesn't work.
I played with my friend which he has a good trustfactor. And then i played my self. Deathmatch generally.

And there is A LOT OF cheaters.
4 or 5 each match. Reporting does nothing.
They have either premium cheats or just throw away accounts.

I mean..
Trust factor doesn't work.
Cheaters everywhere.

Only way to save yourself from this mess is to pay to VALVe.
Since Prime has less cheaters than F2P.

I don't get it...
Why ??
Why do i have to pay money,just to be able to enjoy a game that is free to play already ??
It's obvious VALVe don't give a ♥♥♥♥ anymore about their Server-side anti cheat.
But damn. I didn't know they throw all the F2P's to trash without any explanation.
Deathmatch servers are not ranked, and have NOTHING to do with trust factor. Good one.
Last edited by DEREK; Jun 21, 2023 @ 6:51am
Originally posted by DEREK:
Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:
I also started play CS:GO recently.
I always stay chill never insult or anything.
Play as decent as possible. Im not noob but im not perfect either. I do die to stupid things sometimes but i always have fun.

However Trustfactor doesn't work.
I played with my friend which he has a good trustfactor. And then i played my self. Deathmatch generally.

And there is A LOT OF cheaters.
4 or 5 each match. Reporting does nothing.
They have either premium cheats or just throw away accounts.

I mean..
Trust factor doesn't work.
Cheaters everywhere.

Only way to save yourself from this mess is to pay to VALVe.
Since Prime has less cheaters than F2P.

I don't get it...
Why ??
Why do i have to pay money,just to be able to enjoy a game that is free to play already ??
It's obvious VALVe don't give a ♥♥♥♥ anymore about their Server-side anti cheat.
But damn. I didn't know they throw all the F2P's to trash without any explanation.
Deathmatch servers are not ranked, and have NOTHING to do with trust factor. Good one.

???
It doesn't have to be ranked ???
I can't enjoy the game no matter what.
Deathmatch or Normal.

Anti-cheat or trustfactor shouldn't be only for 1 gamemode. (Ranked)
It should be for all gamemodes we're playing.

Why do i have to play with cheaters on a simple gamemode ???????
DEREK Jun 21, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:
Originally posted by DEREK:
Deathmatch servers are not ranked, and have NOTHING to do with trust factor. Good one.

???
It doesn't have to be ranked ???
I can't enjoy the game no matter what.
Deathmatch or Normal.

Anti-cheat or trustfactor shouldn't be only for 1 gamemode. (Ranked)
It should be for all gamemodes we're playing.

Why do i have to play with cheaters on a simple gamemode ???????
With under 100 hours in game, I am starting to lean towards this is a skill issue on your part. Combine that with a lack of understanding the game mechanics, and here we are.
Last edited by DEREK; Jun 21, 2023 @ 11:01am
bLz' Jun 21, 2023 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by autistic monkey:
Originally posted by 𝙲𝚊𝚛𝚎𝚘:
So i basically play together with my friends most of the time, who aren´t the best at csgo lets say. This results in my rank to be lower than i could achieve. Most of the time i play very layed back and carry them anyways.
But a couple of months ago something we started to realize, that some of our enemys are cheating, which really never happened around the end of 2022 when we played. And for the last 2-3 months it gotten really bad. Cheaters about every 3-4 games.
the real problem though is when i try to solo queue. Queue times can take longer than 30 mins (with maps:Inferno,Dust2,Mirage,Cache Rank: MG2,MGE,DMG).
Sometimes i get queued against 5 Stack where one is Triggerbotting or even all 5 were and all ranked around lem to global elite when im MGE.
In these Lobbys there are always newer account in the enemy team and in my team and i kid u not 9 out of 10 games theres a cheater. i started to review every demo when i suspected something (which was every solo match) and it was more than obvious. They dont even try to hide it most of the time.
This has been going on for like a month or so and i cant imagine that everybody else is expriencing cheaters in almost every single game.
Is it my Trust Factor? Even so, why isnt it getting better? (friends dont get message that my trust factor is low)
Maybe there are just way too many cheaters and i get unlucky queuing vs them?
Skill issue? doubt it. like i said playing with my friends and carrying when i want to is no problem and i review every demo afterwards (which most of the time is completely useless, because they make it that obvious)
What is going on?
cheaters always was CSGO problem and it always will be CSGO problem
too many cheaters? become one lol
10iq
Last edited by bLz'; Jun 21, 2023 @ 11:03am
Played against level 0 steamaccount with 2hours playtime today… what do you expect?
Honestly, after disabling OW this game got even more worse. Cheaters in nearly every game… idk what I should say, its just sad to see how this game is getting even worse because it could have much more potential
Originally posted by DEREK:
Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

???
It doesn't have to be ranked ???
I can't enjoy the game no matter what.
Deathmatch or Normal.

Anti-cheat or trustfactor shouldn't be only for 1 gamemode. (Ranked)
It should be for all gamemodes we're playing.

Why do i have to play with cheaters on a simple gamemode ???????
With under 100 hours in game, I am starting to lean towards this is a skill issue on your part. Combine that with a lack of understanding the game mechanics, and here we are.
I do know the game. I can aim and im a chill person overall.

You just trying find a way to justify the way you think. This is stupid. I dont have to play with cheaters becuz i didnt pay money for a prime account.
Last edited by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu; Jun 21, 2023 @ 1:14pm
Nutsnut Jun 21, 2023 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:
Originally posted by DEREK:
With under 100 hours in game, I am starting to lean towards this is a skill issue on your part. Combine that with a lack of understanding the game mechanics, and here we are.
I do know the game. I can aim and im a chill person overall.

You just trying find a way to justify the way you think. This is stupid. I dont have to play with cheaters becuz i didnt pay money for a prime account.

With 89 hours you know a lot less than you think you do
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Date Posted: Jun 21, 2023 @ 2:32am
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