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Fasu Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:38pm
Csgo smurfing bannable?
is it bannable now?
and what if u play on a steam account from a friend with 1k+ hrs in?
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Hamsterpeek Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:40pm 
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
bLz' Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
they kinda added smurfing under the cheating tos this year.
so im unsure myself.
can i use alt accs or not?
Last edited by bLz'; Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:43pm
Fasu Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
where can i find that, do u have a link for me? Thanks for ur answer!
⎛ PlamAtom ⎞ Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Fagoon:
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
where can i find that, do u have a link for me? Thanks for ur answer!

"Cheat
Examples of such prohibited behavior include: running cheat programs; smurfing; and artificially boosting your match-making rank."

https://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/?l=english
Fasu Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by bLaze':
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
they kinda added smurfing under the cheating tos this year.
so im unsure myself.
can i use alt accs or not?
only created from yourself i guess
Fasu Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:47pm 
Originally posted by ⎛ PlamAtom ⎞:
Originally posted by Fagoon:
where can i find that, do u have a link for me? Thanks for ur answer!

"Cheat
Examples of such prohibited behavior include: running cheat programs; smurfing; and artificially boosting your match-making rank."

https://store.steampowered.com/online_conduct/?l=english
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bLz' Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:48pm 
ye thats it.
im confused by it myself too.
took me a while to find it in the steam news tab.
would like to know if i can still play on my other account.
Last edited by bLz'; Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:48pm
I don't think they punish smurfing at the moment, but when cs2 releases i would expect them to do so.

Or cs2 will just be the same ♥♥♥♥, games are often lopsided it's not even funny, every other game theres a guy scoring 80% of the kills and lo and behold his boosting his loser friend with 2 kills that is suprisingly ranked higher than the top of the leaderboard guy
Last edited by Bullets don't go where I aim; Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:53pm
BlackPerson548 Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by bLaze':
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
they kinda added smurfing under the cheating tos this year.
so im unsure myself.
can i use alt accs or not?
go for it
Hamsterpeek Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:58pm 
Originally posted by bLaze':
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
they kinda added smurfing under the cheating tos this year.
so im unsure myself.
can i use alt accs or not?
Using alts is absolutely fine as long you're not deranking on purpose.

What valve means by "smurfing is like cheating" is one simple thing: Valve officially stated few years ago that deranker should be treated as griefer in overwatch cases. That was a question many overwatcher had. What to mark when someone deranks? Valve said: It's griefing.

Now they say it's cheating. So IF someone deranks on purpose they will not get a 39 day griefing cooldown and a permanent game ban the second time - they will get banned permanently straight away.

Originally posted by Fagoon:
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
No it's not bannable.
Playing on a acc that isn't created by yourself is accountsharing and is against the ToS.
where can i find that, do u have a link for me? Thanks for ur answer!
You're welcome.
https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/english/
C. Your Account

When you complete Steam’s registration process, you create a Steam account ("Account"). Your Account may also include billing information you provide to Valve for transactions concerning Subscriptions, Content and Services and the purchase of any physical goods through Steam (“Hardware”). You may not reveal, share or otherwise allow others to use your password or Account except as otherwise specifically authorized by Valve.

Originally posted by Fagoon:
Originally posted by bLaze':
they kinda added smurfing under the cheating tos this year.
so im unsure myself.
can i use alt accs or not?
only created from yourself i guess
Yes ofc.
⎛ PlamAtom ⎞ Aug 2, 2023 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by bLaze':
ye thats it.
im confused by it myself too.
took me a while to find it in the steam news tab.
would like to know if i can still play on my other account.

It is allowed to have multiple accounts. Valve, as with cheating, has not providet a clear definition for smurfing. Since it falls under cheat category, one might assume it must be anti-competitive, anti-social, or disruptive which are the broad directions they use apart from community acceptance. Playing unranked should be fine, but playing ranked mm would depend heavily on what I think the community would accept as reasonable. If you need a new account, start fresh, or play without friends that annoy you, challenges, etc... I would recommend just staying on your account since there is no reason to smurf anyway....
⎛ PlamAtom ⎞ Aug 2, 2023 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Hamsterpeek:
Originally posted by bLaze':
they kinda added smurfing under the cheating tos this year.
so im unsure myself.
can i use alt accs or not?
Using alts is absolutely fine as long you're not deranking on purpose.

What valve means by "smurfing is like cheating" is one simple thing: Valve officially stated few years ago that deranker should be treated as griefer in overwatch cases. That was a question many overwatcher had. What to mark when someone deranks? Valve said: It's griefing.

Now they say it's cheating. So IF someone deranks on purpose they will not get a 39 day griefing cooldown and a permanent game ban the second time - they will get banned permanently straight away.

You can check out the first "Overwatch Resolution" verdict screens, they contain the three main categories that should be used for Overwatch. Even then, it was classified as "Minor Disruptive" because it involves throwing the game, which is anti-competitive. Valve generally never tells Overwatch investigators what to vote for or how to decide, even when there is huge uncertainty or you write them. Overwatch (mostly) has banned spin script users not because Valve tells them to, but because it is disruptive and anti-competitive. You can figure out for yourself if in a normal match you and your mates should intentionally kill yourself with a Molotov and ruin the game for other players, is that what a good match should look like? Not at all. What you're claiming is hair-raising to a point where you don't understand the idea behind Overwatch. Why do you think you get a griefing ban if you do too much damage to your teammates? Valve put a system in place, but they never told Overwatch investigators directly what cheating, griefing, a disruption, what kind of disruption really was. They might have prodived some clear and common examples which are obvious like aimbots or bhop scripts but ultimatly each situation that come up was decided by many investigators who worked on Valve's categories and what the community and they found to be, unacceptable.
VRANC ******** Aug 2, 2023 @ 3:25pm 
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axel Aug 2, 2023 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Fagoon:
is it bannable now?
and what if u play on a steam account from a friend with 1k+ hrs in?
Just play in your own rank. If you're playing on a significantly lower ranked account to play with friends and you aren't intentionally doing so to ruin the days of lower ranked players, then no one will even know. Unless you're a Faceit level 10 smurfing in a really low MM rank, nothing will happen.
Fasu Aug 2, 2023 @ 3:31pm 
Originally posted by axel:
Originally posted by Fagoon:
is it bannable now?
and what if u play on a steam account from a friend with 1k+ hrs in?
Just play in your own rank. If you're playing on a significantly lower ranked account to play with friends and you aren't intentionally doing so to ruin the days of lower ranked players, then no one will even know. Unless you're a Faceit level 10 smurfing in a really low MM rank, nothing will happen.
i played on my older brothers account to play with friends bc of rank difference, so its against the rules bc its not my account
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Date Posted: Aug 2, 2023 @ 2:38pm
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