my thoughts about why valulrant is a trash game.

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the reason is, valorant is more of a utility-play(brain-dead) and reaction-oriented(boomers-unfriendly) game.

The mind-plays in counter-strike is the real factor that differentiate players in the top level. The timing calculation, information gathering and positioning, etc. Many of the pros said the reason why NA teams cant get better is that they are not punished from mistakes. This proves the importance of the mind-play mastering because they can not mean bad aiming right?

However, the utilities in valorant just do most the mind-plays for you, while in csgo you have to use your experience and practice. in valorant they have trip-wires and alarm-bots to counter aggressive pushes, pop-flashes, recon darts/dogs/cats to counter off-angles and they force you to shoot the the utilities to expose your position. So in valorant, especially in the pro scenes, people don't even hold in bombsites. Most of the retakes involve like eight or nine people alive, just because the utilities are too strong to fight against, and strong enough to win a 5v5 retake with. The utilities in valorant do and counter all the plays simultaneously. So once you are "intelligent" enough to use your "skills(utilities)", of which most are as easy as to push an elevator button, you are almost done with all the mind-plays in this game.

And the reason for why valorant is reaction-oriented is that it has a peeker's advantage.

In counter-strike, reaction difference is mechanically filled because angle holders have the reaction advantage by default. They mostly face peekers unprepared, see peekers earlier and the peekers spends time stopping before they shoot(the time is short but remarkable enough). So as you can see, all of cs's utilities are either about blocking holder's sight or force them to peek(except for HE, it's a "frag" grenade). However, the models in counter-strike move fast so you still need good aiming like tracking and spraying to guarantee the kills.

But in valorant, it goes the opposite. Not only they have ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ inextinguishable mollies and pop--flashes and recon utilities and concussions to absolute destroy angle-holders, but also thinner models, instant stop to make peekers even more powerful. Oh yes the models move slower so it kind of compensates right? Yes, if you react fast enough. that's all that left for you.

Previously I've heard about people saying "valorant is harder than counter-strike." lol Here's the reason: in cs, you have confidence in your aim, you calculate the timings well, you hold angles, then you are fine and chilling and you know it. Instead in valorant, you are always dangerous facing incoming powerful peeks and utilities so you are nervous af. Then ofc it's more "relaxing" in counter-strike. but is that means valorant is harder? Nah. you cant say street fight is harder than stage boxing right?

So, counter-strike technically has the better game-play involves all kinds of skills and practices. valulrant is trash

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Messaggio originale di phanification:

both games are good because i play fps game to find e girls

Well, then valorant may win that case😂 but why not APEX?

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Messaggio originale di ねこArc1ce:

Messaggio originale di rg:

I agree with you. CS gives you very simple toolkit but your options are wide. You can plan and switch your planning on the fly depending on the situation on the map. Fit on any role any moment.
Because of this there is a huge skill gap depending on adaptability.
In valorant you picking a hero and that's it- you are bound to certain playstyle.
Also gunplay in valorant is much easy due to pathetic ms and mobility

Exactly. When I watch counter-strike games, I see different decisions. Everyone has their own play style, and sometimes I can recognize the exact person just from his pov. But in valorant, I don't see personalities, I see jett doing jett thing flying insite /KJ doing KJ thing holding for lurks. That's all.

u take that back right now

[M@N Down]

Cs-go has difficult times to counter cheaters, but i like the way shadows work for defenders, give some extra advantage to those which hold positions, so i love to play d2 a lot. Rather than any other map. I enjoy cs-go mostly because you can beat sometimes even cheaters if you set your mind to really punish them, you want a wall bang you go for it, you ain't scared like the cheater, that valve may catch the wh..

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Messaggio originale di phanification:

Messaggio originale di ねこArc1ce:

Exactly. When I watch counter-strike games, I see different decisions. Everyone has their own play style, and sometimes I can recognize the exact person just from his pov. But in valorant, I don't see personalities, I see jett doing jett thing flying insite /KJ doing KJ thing holding for lurks. That's all.

u take that back right now

Why dude

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Messaggio originale di ねこArc1ce:

Messaggio originale di phanification:

both games are good because i play fps game to find e girls

Well, then valorant may win that case😂 but why not APEX?

this is between valorant and csgo not apex

[シキ]

Messaggio originale di Hy0ka:

i don give a dam

alright then. Have fun😊

[roi]

I agree but I like Valorant search times, even though I mostly only play unranked and swiftplay.

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Messaggio originale di twitch.tv/roideus:

I agree but I like Valorant search times, even though I mostly only play unranked and swiftplay.

'cause MM is bad indeed:(

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[RugOp'81]

Wrong forum, reported

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Messaggio originale di RugOp'81:

Wrong forum, reported

no

[braindead]

csgo is better, egirls are gross, i prefer Russian men