FIX THE DAMN RANKING SYSTEM

[Turtbag]

I won/tied like 10 short matches in a row and finally got ranked up to Nova 4, almost always top fragging. After my rank up I won another game, then lost one, then won one and then lost one and get deranked to Nova 3...
Fix the damn system, if I top frag most games I should not be deranking so quick.

Also your matchmaking is garbage, I've been mostly getting placed into silver or global games, rarely into my ranks. I understand I play a lot of office and it might not be the most common map, but then at least don't have me lose a lot of elo if you placed me against Globals and supremes.

Why not implement a indicator bar, where it would show how much till rank up/derank. Have us lose less elo if we are top fragging, lose a player due to abandonment, or VSing higher ranks.

[Nutsnut]

Thanks sounds like it's working perfectly?

When you go up a rank, you are at the bottom end of the experience/elo/MMR etc needed for that rank, so any loss, sometimes just a single loss can put you back down to your previous rank.

[Turtbag]

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Thanks sounds like it's working perfectly?

When you go up a rank, you are at the bottom end of the experience/elo/MMR etc needed for that rank, so any loss, sometimes just a single loss can put you back down to your previous rank.

Ok so with that logic, I should be able to rank back up in a game or two if I win.

[Nutsnut]

Depends on individual performance, number of rounds won Vs lost, ranks of opponents, but yes.

[Turtbag]

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Depends on individual performance, number of rounds won Vs lost, ranks of opponents, but yes.

Just won two games in a row, both top frag one 25 kills other 15 kills. First game nova 1s - nova 4s second game all nova 3s - mg1s. Both games ended 9-6. No rank up. Proves my point.

[Nutsnut]

Originally posted by Turtbag:

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Depends on individual performance, number of rounds won Vs lost, ranks of opponents, but yes.

Just won two games in a row, both top frag one 25 kills other 15 kills. First game nova 1s - nova 4s second game all nova 3s - mg1s. Both games ended 9-6. No rank up. Proves my point.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. What what are your ranks Vs theirs? Did you contribute to your team win or bait your team mates for kills? Did you get MVPs, secure clutches. Did you throw rounds you should have won.

CS is more than winning games and hUr De DuR I gOt mOSt fRaGs DeRp

[The Dennis Rodman of CS™]

you're playing only office, which is why you're getting weird games

[Turtbag]

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Originally posted by Turtbag:

Just won two games in a row, both top frag one 25 kills other 15 kills. First game nova 1s - nova 4s second game all nova 3s - mg1s. Both games ended 9-6. No rank up. Proves my point.

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. What what are your ranks Vs theirs? Did you contribute to your team win or bait your team mates for kills? Did you get MVPs, secure clutches. Did you throw rounds you should have won.

CS is more than winning games and hUr De DuR I gOt mOSt fRaGs DeRp

i wish i could send you screenshot, no I do not bate my teammates lmao, got plenty of MVPs, lots of 4 kills and clutches. Just quick update got rank up after 3rd game. Still think it is very ridiculous though that I needed to win 3 games to get the rank back while always top fragging.

[Turtbag]

Originally posted by wraith:

you're playing only office, which is why you're getting weird games

Nah, I understand that. I just think there should be a bar showing how much elo you lose. Should lose less if you are losing to globals/supremes, same thing with winning against silvers, should be getting less. But an indicator bar would be very helpful.

[Nutsnut]

At least you got you rank back, the more games you play, the less effective they are at adjusting you rank.

1 win a day for 10 days is better than 10 wins on 1 day

[Nutsnut]

Originally posted by Turtbag:

Originally posted by wraith:

you're playing only office, which is why you're getting weird games

Nah, I understand that. I just think there should be a bar showing how much elo you lose. Should lose less if you are losing to globals/supremes, same thing with winning against silvers, should be getting less. But an indicator bar would be very helpful.

It will get manipulated and people would play against to maximize their individual gains rather than a team performance

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Turtbag:

I won/tied like 10 short matches in a row and finally got ranked up to Nova 4, almost always top fragging. After my rank up I won another game, then lost one, then won one and then lost one and get deranked to Nova 3...
Fix the damn system, if I top frag most games I should not be deranking so quick.

Also your matchmaking is garbage, I've been mostly getting placed into silver or global games, rarely into my ranks. I understand I play a lot of office and it might not be the most common map, but then at least don't have me lose a lot of elo if you placed me against Globals and supremes.

Why not implement a indicator bar, where it would show how much till rank up/derank. Have us lose less elo if we are top fragging, lose a player due to abandonment, or VSing higher ranks.

I dont get it, are you suggesting you should rank up from a loss?

[Hamless Hog]

Originally posted by Turtbag:

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Thanks sounds like it's working perfectly?

When you go up a rank, you are at the bottom end of the experience/elo/MMR etc needed for that rank, so any loss, sometimes just a single loss can put you back down to your previous rank.

Ok so with that logic, I should be able to rank back up in a game or two if I win.

correct

Originally posted by Turtbag:

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Depends on individual performance, number of rounds won Vs lost, ranks of opponents, but yes.

Just won two games in a row, both top frag one 25 kills other 15 kills. First game nova 1s - nova 4s second game all nova 3s - mg1s. Both games ended 9-6. No rank up. Proves my point.

Whats your point? How does this prove that?

Originally posted by Turtbag:

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal. What what are your ranks Vs theirs? Did you contribute to your team win or bait your team mates for kills? Did you get MVPs, secure clutches. Did you throw rounds you should have won.

CS is more than winning games and hUr De DuR I gOt mOSt fRaGs DeRp

i wish i could send you screenshot, no I do not bate my teammates lmao, got plenty of MVPs, lots of 4 kills and clutches. Just quick update got rank up after 3rd game. Still think it is very ridiculous though that I needed to win 3 games to get the rank back while always top fragging.

Yopu can post screenshots. You didnt need that amount of wins to rank up, thats not how it works.

[Ray Benchmark]

It is actually ridiclious how many people get toxic over a simple system they don't understand - and could easily just ask how it works rather than ranting.

Just got explained few hours ago.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3784751580943896157/#c3784751580943927003

[HexademusRex]

I'm playing against cheaters and pros all the time even I'm just some silver nob myself. When are they gonna fix it...

[Raffi]

Originally posted by Nutsnut:

Depends on individual performance, number of rounds won Vs lost, ranks of opponents, but yes.

That's not something you can claim. Almost every game using a ranking system bases "elo" solely on win/loss against other players. Not individual performance.

If it was based on performance, people that only played in stacks wouldn't always rank up or derank together.